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Apple Releases Tool for Calibrating Apple Pro Display XDR
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Agree, lack of HD-SDI makes this device a non-starter for most. This really doesn't compete against the X300 or even the Canon DP-2410 like Apple said it would when they announced it.
I'll debate you on the need for 3D LUT calibration ;-)
to all the "pros" in this thread, thanks for spending the hundreds of thousands of dollars getting the color just right. As a consumer, if the tone was off here or there, I really wouldn't notice nor would I care.. You guys make it seem like it's life or death, but in reality, no one really cares 
Movies are real people's life's work and passion. They spend years of long, hard hours making them. It's not a 9-5 job. Not sure what you do but I hope you're passionate enough about it to care that the job comes out right.
oh .. and in medical imaging it is life and death. They don't use the Apple XDR for those applications either.
to all the "pros" in this thread, thanks for spending the hundreds of thousands of dollars getting the color just right. As a consumer, if the tone was off here or there, I really wouldn't notice nor would I care.. You guys make it seem like it's life or death, but in reality, no one really cares
Who's reality? Yours? Maybe as a consumer you don't care, and I don't know what you do. Mine? Very much so, as I get paid for the content I create, and beyond that, I'm passionate about what I do regardless of that. So I not only have to adhere to certain standards that are expected of me professionally, but I personally aim for perfection in everything I do. An impossibility, sure, but something that keeps me going. I'm passionate about my work and what I do, so it absolutely matters, and I absolutely care. But this is how I am as a person, so there's that too. There are too many dispassionate people out there, working just to work. In every field. I feel sorry for them.
to all the "pros" in this thread, thanks for spending the hundreds of thousands of dollars getting the color just right. As a consumer, if the tone was off here or there, I really wouldn't notice nor would I care.. You guys make it seem like it's life or death, but in reality, no one really cares
Go spend some time on a video review site forum and you will see plenty of people really, really, really care and are quite vocal about it.
PPI was a major factor for me had the P2715Q before which had a PPI of 185.12. I tried to switch to the Dell 38" U3818DW one of those wide ones and it was so grainy I sent it back the same day.
Exactly. In fact, I think the only way to "improve" upon the crisp UI and text like you get on a retina 5K iMac would be via an XDR display? Apple has spoiled me.. looking at modern iPhones and iPads all day, it's hard to go down to fuzzier text/UI on a large display.
Yeah I really can't go back to non-Retina for daily use having been on iMac 5K's since they launched. Too spoiled by the sharpness.
The XDR is a nice enough GUI monitor but has serious issues that make it incompatible for professional colour grading (eg excessive blooming). Apple’s new calibration is flawed, doesn’t make sense technically, it’s clearly being put together by people who don’t actually understand monitor calibration or professional needs. For those who are confused it’s pretty simple and there are 2 main standards for SDR monitor calibration which have been used in grading suites for decades, they are REC709 gamma 2.4 and P3 DCI gamma 2.6. There are then HDR standards that have different luminance mapping and are calibrated to PQ EOTF and Rec 2020 gamut. The xdr does not compete with the professional monitors Apple compared it to like the x300.
No the XDR is not as effective as a $30,000 OLED, but it honestly isn't meant to compete with them directly despite Apple's hype during WWDC. It's meant to give production houses more options to have monitors better than consumer / business models in the production process while still leaving the handful of dedicated super-expensive monitors for the final checks.
And Apple's Pro Workflow team is composed of people who are "actual" professionals with "actual" professional needs and who do understand monitor calibration as part of their professional needs are to have a calibrated monitor.
And Apple's Pro Workflow team is composed of people who are "actual" professionals with "actual" professional needs and who do understand monitor calibration as part of their professional needs are to have a calibrated monitor.
@Kedbear I'm fully in agreement. Pros that know, won't ever use this display. Those that don't know, can decide if it's worth it to them. The more I read about it, from pros in the industry, the worse the news gets. @CWallace - forget about it competing with the $30K Sony, it can't even compete with cheaper solutions. It's a joke really, a bad one for customers. I would stay away from any production house using these monitors as reference - they don't know what they are doing.
No, they do not understand monitor calibration. That is evident from their tech papers. If you think they do it simply suggests it’s not something you have experience in either. They are using different colour patches for different colour spaces! Their adjustments are within the OS and not the display. And they suggest that if the ‘calibration’ does not match the expected results from Apple the spectrophotometer needs to be checked! Help me understand how this will give you a accurately calibrated monitor? They are clueless and would do well to reach out to eg lightspace for guidance.
The monitor will be fine for general work but any serious pro colour grading can’t be entertained with this monitor. You’d be better off getting a second hand Flanders Scientific for half the price and having a properly calibrated reference monitor if accuracy is necessary.
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Isn't having the adjustments inside the OS basically the same as having an external LUT box? Why is that the wrong approach?
That's fine that you're passionate about your work, but pls stop lying to yourself that the audience cares if the kelvin is 100% perfect.. or even 80%. It's just not the truth. Nevermind the fact that everyone perceives colors differently. No one is watching a YouTube video and complaining about the color isn't being right. I do photography and I'm scrutinize every pixel even though I know it's going to be consumed for a fraction of a second on someone's MOBILE screen. I still adhere to a high standard knowing that. The difference between me and you is that you have to keep up this charade in order to keep a defined line between the "pros" and the commoners to justify the existence of your job. Go ahead and keep dumping thousands of dollars on "high end" monitors and calibration equipment and pretend that any of it matters.
They might care about it for the first 2 minutes, but if they were watching anything WORTH watching, they'd be concentrating on the CONTENTGo spend some time on a video review site forum and you will see plenty of people really, really, really care and are quite vocal about it.