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Indeed.

My only issue with Lion DP2 and the subsequent update is the animations (I sound like a broken record between this and iOS 4.3).

Everything else is relatively solid thus far.
I agree completely. Launchpad folder animations look like crap right now. Safari previous/next animations are also a bit buggy for me. I assume that these issues will be fixed fairly soon, though.
 
Where did I claim any of those things ? :confused:

*sigh*, at this point, I'll just ignore your comments, do the same for mine.

Then what were you trying to prove?

All the browsers do it. ChromeOS is just a browser for a normal consumer.

What were you actually trying to prove? What was your point? Sure you can ignore my comments if you dont have an answer. Fair enough.
 
Launchpad

The launchpad now works more like iOS home screen. Click and hold to make icons jiggle and you can delete icons with an 'x' to the top left of the icon. UI not finished however.

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MacBook Air Late 2010 now standard with 64-bit Kernel and Extensions enabled!

MacBook Air from late 2010 now boots standard with 64-bit Kernel and Extensions enabled!
 
does this still have lag/freezing issues?

I know when lion beta was first released it would lag and freeze a lot! also it was very unstable, 80% of the apps would crash constantly.
Oh really?
Where did you attain this copy of LION... off a Pirate Bay?
No wonder it's a POS!
 
MacBook Air from late 2010 now boots standard with 64-bit Kernel and Extensions enabled!
Why would you need 64 bit for a MBA? To fly off those huge sample libraries that the processor would lock up over?
64 bit is only for massive memory allocations and a MBA doesn't even have the CPU to pull it off... :rolleyes:
 
Why would you need 64 bit for a MBA? To fly off those huge sample libraries that the processor would lock up over?
64 bit is only for massive memory allocations and a MBA doesn't even have the CPU to pull it off... :rolleyes:

Well, for starters, to prevent the damn year 2038 problem.

Seriously though, there are a few benefits of running in 64 bit mode even on older processors. memory mapped files for bigger files that would otherwise use up more than the 32 bit address space are now possible and 64 bit registers can speed up a few types of programs, even those that don't deal with very large datasets.

By your line of thinking, who needs 64 bit at all ? My 233 mhz UltraSparc II should have just been a 32bit processor. :rolleyes:

The plain fact is the C2D is a capable x86-64 processor, there's no good reason to hold it back with a 32 bit kernel.
 
Why would you need 64 bit for a MBA? To fly off those huge sample libraries that the processor would lock up over?
64 bit is only for massive memory allocations and a MBA doesn't even have the CPU to pull it off... :rolleyes:

At this point I think it's mainly a matter of keeping the platform unified. Why support two kernals longer than you have to? The sooner Apple makes 64-bit the default, the sooner they can dump the 32-bit kernal altogether.
 
I'm running this with my Core 2 Duo and it's pretty sluggish. I don't what what's going on in the background but my browsers are slow and my 2TB hard drive get's accessed when I access things that aren't even relevant.

Also, is it me or is Time Machine extremely annoying in Lion?
 
Then what were you trying to prove?

All the browsers do it. ChromeOS is just a browser for a normal consumer.

What were you actually trying to prove? What was your point? Sure you can ignore my comments if you dont have an answer. Fair enough.

Uhh for starters, Safari.app doesn't.

I can't tell you how much of ChromeOS is original Google code, but it is a full-fledged Linux operating system, with a full window manager (X11 I presume).

Calling it just a browser is a bit disingenuous.

On-topic: I quite like the overall new UI, suddenly makes what I'm looking at right new (10.6) feel dated. :(
 
Apple bought OS X too. :D

I'm arguing that both were massive undertakings by both parties. My OS X example was tainted with sarcasm if you didn't catch the little :rolleyes: there.

Both OS X and Chrome OS (and Android, and iOS) borrow heavily from others, either through acquisitions or from the open source community. To claim Google is any inferior here is just trying to stir the pot, especially calling the poster Troll, that is just insulting and uncalled for.

Both companies deserve props from providing the software they do, neither deserves scorn that some posters here like to dish out.



So what ? OS X is Mach/XNU, Apple didn't make that. It's also a GNU/Berkeley userland, Apple didn't make that either. Again guys, drop the non-sense competition, this thread is about a release of OS X, not some type of Google bashing contest.


Clarifications:
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.

Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.

BSD is not GNU.
 
I have a really strange problem changing the background wallpaper. Every time my computer goes to sleep the old background will be back again. However, this can be solved with a simple Shut Down before going to sleep.
 
This update was unfortunately a horrible bust for me. Autoimporter is not working properly for my iPhone. Safari is crashing on pages where it wasn't before. IDK, maybe it'll work itself out........
 
heya,

At first, I thought it was more stable.

However something seems to have gone wrong with my audio.

iTunes won't start, when I try it brings up an error message:

Code:
The iTunes application could not be opened. An unknown error occurred (-200).

There is no sound in Flash videos (Safari or Chrome) is missing, or any sound in Jitsi (VoIP client), or in MPlayer (Video player).

Strangely enough, QuickTime has sound. Have no idea what's going on here.

Cheers,
Victor
 
heya,

At first, I thought it was more stable.

However something seems to have gone wrong with my audio.

iTunes won't start, when I try it brings up an error message:

Code:
The iTunes application could not be opened. An unknown error occurred (-200).

There is no sound in Flash videos (Safari or Chrome) is missing, or any sound in Jitsi (VoIP client), or in MPlayer (Video player).

Strangely enough, QuickTime has sound. Have no idea what's going on here.

Cheers,
Victor
I have some issues with quicktime as well and some other stuff (Can anyone tell me if their auto importer works??!?!) but I was able to clear some issues up by going to the manual download link posted earlier in this thread and DL'ing the update myself and reinstalling it.
 
Clarifications:
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.

Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.

BSD is not GNU.

I think you are referring to IO Kit rather than XNU. Darwin (the core OS) features the Mach-O kernel that was created from the merger of BSD and a custom set of APIs coming from the NeXT era - XNU was the child of the merger so to speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system). BSD was used to create the network and filesystem stacks.

BSD is technically NOT what most consider true UNIX. Nowadays (post 1990s we are talking) consider System 5 as "true" unix. It is however viewed as a derivative featuring near-on all UNIX-like services.

It was called System V (5) because of 5 original license holders - SGI, SUN, HP, IBM and Microsoft. (Yes Microsoft licensed Xenix from AT&T in the 1970's - from this came AmigaOS....) in 1982 Microsoft solds its license to SCO and then in 2003 brought it back again....

Lastly, BSD evolved to POSIX and Linux came from that route...

IF someone would like to see a SystemV manual (UNIX) please send an email..

Some of us grew up on a PDP-11..... Scary thoughts... Nowadays im messing with Darwin and OpenDarwin builds :) Crashed a few MBP's rebuilding the kernel a couple of times....

If anyone would like to see the code (and its available at apple although hidden.... see this link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/ - note that XNU is still under APPL and BSD licensing...)
 
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Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU see source link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/

BTW - No part of MacOSX i distributed under GNU licensing...

Couple notes:

GNU is an organization that amongst other things, controls the GPL (GNU Public License).

Linux has it's background in Minix, using a GNU userland, hence the common term GNU/Linux to denote the two pieces. The Linux kernel is not controlled by GNU projects.
 
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