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Apple Releases Updated iMac Models With 21.5- and 27-Inch LED Screens

mattcube64 said:
With an adapter, apparently. But I can't seem to find them on their site.
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I dont have conclusive evidence on this.. but couldnt you just get apple's $29 MiniDisplayPort to DVI adapter, then use a regular HDMI to DVI cable plugged into it. It would work in the outgoing direction, so one might assume it would work in the incoming direction.
 
How much of a difference is there performance wise between the i5 and i7? Worth the extra price?
 
TennisandMusic said:
Not exactly...the 920 is better clock for clock, but the 860 has better "turbo modes." However considering how EASY it is to overclock a 920 (given you have the option which you don't on Mac's) the 920/x58 chipset combo is still the much better choice. You can get 920's to 4ghz pretty easily, and it supports more memory in general as well.

The new i5's and i7's are considered "budget" mainstream chips, and that's what these iMac's have. The 920 bloomfield is a better cpu. But the other stuff is fine for general users.
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The difference clock per clock between Lynnfield and Bloomfield?

The Turbos are more agressive on Lynnfield at a lower platform cost as well. Yes you have to sacrifice the X58 for those PCI-Express lanes but it's 95W for nearly the entire motherboard of support hardware with the onboard memory and PCI-Express controller.
 
Bubba Satori said:
iTunes.
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It’s funny in the intro video because they go on and on about HD graphics and 1080p support, but you can only get 720p from iTunes (at a somewhat crappy bit rate). That’s why I think the rumors were true and Blu-ray was pulled at the last minute.
 
hal1984 said:
50% overclock in the Core i7?
Overclock on a phantom-mobile Core i5, when only exists one model and that one is desktop and the specs are the same that Apple announce?
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TDP does not scale linearly with clockspeed. It could ramp up wildly to 2.0 then only increase 10 more W to get to 2.8. The likely scenario is that they are both in fact desktop parts, as has been suggested by yourself and Eidorian (especially due to the increased enclosure size). However, it's not certain.
 
SirHaakon said:
I would be in favor of downloadable content if the quality was there, but it just plain isn't. All of Apple's "HD" content maxes out at 720p and is highly compressed... it can't hold a candle to Blu-ray. And with these new higher-resolution screens in the 27" model, the video has to be upscaled even further.

Also, the other poster was right; even if the downloadable content was made available at 1080p and at reasonable bitrates, where do you think you're gonna put it? A dual-layer Blu-ray disc (the common format for commercial releases) is 50GB... that means you can put a whopping 10 movies on that 500GB drive (assuming you don't need an operating system). Let's be realistic.

These new updates (27" screen, 16:9 aspect, i7, 16GB of RAM) are all fantastic improvements and have made this new release worthy of being called a "major update," but the lack of Blu-ray capability is a glaring omission that shouldn't be ignored. People are right to call them out on it.

At the very least, consider this... the new Final Cut Studio has Blu-ray burning support built-in and I've been making discs with an external 3rd party drive for almost a year now. Seems silly, then, that Apple's own software supports making Blu-ray content but I can't watch it back on the same machine it was created with? Just nonsense...
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Thank you. I own a PS3 and will always watch Blu-ray content on my HD television instead of iTunes HD content any day of the week. Plus, when I purchase Blu-ray movies, I want to be able to place a copy on my iPhone for traveling, etc. Why not make a Blu-ray reader an option when ordering an iMac, Mac Pro, etc? If you are so vehemently opposed to Blu-ray, don't order the option!
 
jaybird13 said:
Got mine!
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Look at that... someone has EPP pricing :D

For all of you out there that couldn't wait to get an iMac, and bought yours last week (like me), I just talked to the Apple store here in Portland (Washington Square), and was told that they will honor a 30 day exchange instead of the normal 14 day window.
 
Blu-ray? Oh pish.

klrobinson999 said:
concerning Blu-Ray, I think Apple has basically said, with this release, "NO"
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Possibly even "F@#% NO!"

I no longer see the point in building a huge library of movies on media that you're just going to throw away again in 7 years when a new standard comes out yet again. Wanna watch that thing again, download in whatever format makes sense at that time and watch away.

& backups on media rated for 100 years that only last two, suck as well.
 
I am VERY tempted by the new 27" iMac! I'd outfit it with the 2.8GHz Nehalem i7 quad-core. With the standard 4GB of memory and the standard 1GB HD, my Apple Store for Employee Purchase Plan price would be $2067. That machine would be faster than the quad-core Mac Pro I currently use. Particularly since it would have the faster graphics too!

VERY tempting!!

Mark
 
turbineseaplane said:
Guys.

Some of you are simply not listening to those of us who want Blu-Ray.

We want a way to back up large amounts of data for archival/security of important content.

Additionally, many of us would use it for professionally distributing video and large data files.

There are MANY uses that will be around for a LONG time that have nothing to do with Hollywood Blu-Ray movies.

Why not just a BTO option Apple!???
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It's not quite as simple as that. In order to include any kind of Blu-ray option, even just a simple BD-ROM, Apple have to build the DRM checks into Snow Leopard and they have been very resistant to do so. They also need to include BD support in their applications, such as iMovie, iTune, etc.

I think that Apple is moving towards a BD drive, but for whatever reason they have dropped it from this update.

If they don't get it out by May of 2010 I will be really surprised. That 27" screen is just screaming for some high bitrate 1080P Blu-ray lovin'! :p

If I find someone to buy my 24" iMac I might still get the 27" in the hopes that I can add the BD drive to it when Apple gets off their ass and adds it to the product lineup.

More than likely though I wait till May and let them refresh the product, iron bugs out, etc.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Your logic is flawed. No one has the amount of storage space required to sustain a library of HD digital downloads. Unless storage space takes over those numbers by a wide margin, you'll still have a healthy chunk that hold on to physical media (ignoring the fact that many are wary of digital ownership only). Apple is simply leveraging their HUGE online marketplace presence due to the fact that not having Blu Ray likely will not hurt them that much.
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Note that even if you don't want to buy 1080p movies, but only rent them, snail mail services like NetFLix compete favorably with download times. It takes only a day or two to get a BluRay movie, and if I have several in the pipeline, I can get one a day or so: more than I have time to watch.

Since I don't have (and can't get, along with MANY people) a 10Gb/sec internet connection (DSL is sit for me at about 1.8Gb/sec), downloads of HD content, even if 1080p was available, and it is generally not, not only takes a long time, but soaks up all of my bandwidth while it's occurring. So they would be scheduled overnight anyway. Kind of like ordering a BluRay via Netflix or buying via Amazon and getting it in a couple of days.

And as mentioned, with BluRay purchases, I get to keep the content forever.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
I've had so many issues with USB hubs. So many...
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I don't see the need for more than four ports. The keyboard and mouse are wireless. Most these days have a wireless printer and increasingly time machine backups are done to devices like the Airport or an HP Mediasmart over ethernet or wifi.

I truly "need" USB ports for exactly two things, my CF card reader and my iPhone. So, with the new machines looks like I'd have two ports left over.
 
Anyone find out if the Quad Core 27in will ship EARLY NOV? I have yet to call but I thought maybe someone has already done so. It's amazing and worth the wait I'm sure.
 
Blu-ray is compressed..

A prior post in this thread said that Blu-ray is not compressed, apparently trying to imply that iTunes HD quality isn't that bad. Blu-ray is compressed.

If we take the raw pixel count, multiply by 3 for 24-bit color(it might be 4 for 32-bit!), and then 24fps, we get:

1920 x 1080 x 3 x 24fps = 150MB/s

Blu-ray movies usually top out around 40Mbit/s, so it is compressed better than 90%.

The rumors said Blu-ray was going to be in these iMacs, and then rumors said it was pulled at the last minute. I would say it is pretty darn obvious it was pulled. Who would put a 27" 2560x1440 screen in a system, hype it for movies and HD content, and then not include full HD content? (iTunes HD doesn't count.) Only Apple.

FAIL.

It’s funny in the intro video because they go on and on about HD graphics and 1080p support, but you can only get 720p from iTunes (at a somewhat crappy bit rate). That’s why I think the rumors were true and Blu-ray was pulled at the last minute.
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Exactly. The intro video was already in the can by the time they yanked Blu-ray.
 
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