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Apple Releases Updated MacBook Pros With Core i5 and i7 Processors
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That's funny, because we've seen studies out there that have put ASUS at higher reliability than even Apple
Anywho, the 13" is dissappointing, but the other updates were in line with expectations
Just bought a 13" Macbook Pro last week, won't even here here until tomorrow! LOL owell, I don't think I will hassle with the return, plus the price difference would probably still be $115 or so after the tax and cost difference.
It's mostly for my fiance anyway, she just uses it for Facebook and Word.
It's mostly for my fiance anyway, she just uses it for Facebook and Word.
To all the whiners out there.
For work, I run Win 7 Enterprise [same as ultimate really] (64 bit) on a Dell Optiplex 755. Intel Core Duo 2.33 (dual core) with 4.00 gb ram (only 3.87 is usable). Has a 150gb hard drive with a raid 1.
My backups won't work (totally filed up a 1 tb drive in 2 days), I have occassional lock ups, CPU goes to 100% when only running office and the virus scanner kicks is. I barely have anything installed and shut down the virtual PC's when not in use (hogs a way to much resources).
For Home (and sometimes work when the Dell acts up) I use a 2008 white macbook 2.4 ghz with 2gb of ram. my fans ever rarely kick in, now that I removed parallels and Windows, performs like brand new. I have a way lot more and use a way lot more simultaneously on my macbook than I do on Windows. Not a problem in 2 years.
I also own a Lenovo X61T Tablet with Vista Home Premium. 1.83 ghz with 3 gb ram - slow as molasses, a lot slower than my Dell XPS 1.83 ghz with 2gb ram that died 2 years ago (just after the warrenty ran out - internally cracked display, could not even buy a replacement for it; Dell could not find one).
Personally I think Apple is designed in a way that you really get your money's worth in terms of lifespan and overall usage. Yeah, I thought the same when I switched to Apple (expensive and you have to get used to a new OS). Well, in terms of usage, I have gotten more use and am a lot happier with my macbook. an upgrade would be nice, but now that I cleaned off windows, parallels, etc. My machine runs like new and I gained 115gb on the hard drive.
I also ran into someone at Starbucks the other day. He is still using is 2005 Powerbook for most stuff. He was not thinking of upgrading for another year.
Yeah, I talk to a lot of Windows and Apple users when I am out and about. Most that said they tried or switched to Apple would not go back. Also, the lack of blu-ray really did not concern them much. They had Windows PC's with blu-ray and found that they ran into a couple issues with rendering blu-ray movies that would not play on a blu-ray player. And also they ran into trouble trying to use the full storage capability (underwrite errors). Blu-ray may not be there yet. Also here in NC, there are still only 1 or 2 blu-ray players on display at any given time in the stores, and very few blu-ray movies out.
From what I am hearing, while the quality may be better for blu-ray, they still can't justify the costs. Also, tell me why when I go into a store, there are no internal or external blu-ray drives? Most are still CD-RW or DVD-RW D/L +- or multi-format; non support blu-ray. Also a lot of computer makers, blu-ray is BTO option, and not standard on a lot of PC's.
So when the rest of the world adopts blu-ray as mainstream; then I will complain about the lack of blu-ray on Apple computers.
Same with USB 3.0 and Wireless N - None are 100% mainstream yet.
For work, I run Win 7 Enterprise [same as ultimate really] (64 bit) on a Dell Optiplex 755. Intel Core Duo 2.33 (dual core) with 4.00 gb ram (only 3.87 is usable). Has a 150gb hard drive with a raid 1.
My backups won't work (totally filed up a 1 tb drive in 2 days), I have occassional lock ups, CPU goes to 100% when only running office and the virus scanner kicks is. I barely have anything installed and shut down the virtual PC's when not in use (hogs a way to much resources).
For Home (and sometimes work when the Dell acts up) I use a 2008 white macbook 2.4 ghz with 2gb of ram. my fans ever rarely kick in, now that I removed parallels and Windows, performs like brand new. I have a way lot more and use a way lot more simultaneously on my macbook than I do on Windows. Not a problem in 2 years.
I also own a Lenovo X61T Tablet with Vista Home Premium. 1.83 ghz with 3 gb ram - slow as molasses, a lot slower than my Dell XPS 1.83 ghz with 2gb ram that died 2 years ago (just after the warrenty ran out - internally cracked display, could not even buy a replacement for it; Dell could not find one).
Personally I think Apple is designed in a way that you really get your money's worth in terms of lifespan and overall usage. Yeah, I thought the same when I switched to Apple (expensive and you have to get used to a new OS). Well, in terms of usage, I have gotten more use and am a lot happier with my macbook. an upgrade would be nice, but now that I cleaned off windows, parallels, etc. My machine runs like new and I gained 115gb on the hard drive.
I also ran into someone at Starbucks the other day. He is still using is 2005 Powerbook for most stuff. He was not thinking of upgrading for another year.
Yeah, I talk to a lot of Windows and Apple users when I am out and about. Most that said they tried or switched to Apple would not go back. Also, the lack of blu-ray really did not concern them much. They had Windows PC's with blu-ray and found that they ran into a couple issues with rendering blu-ray movies that would not play on a blu-ray player. And also they ran into trouble trying to use the full storage capability (underwrite errors). Blu-ray may not be there yet. Also here in NC, there are still only 1 or 2 blu-ray players on display at any given time in the stores, and very few blu-ray movies out.
From what I am hearing, while the quality may be better for blu-ray, they still can't justify the costs. Also, tell me why when I go into a store, there are no internal or external blu-ray drives? Most are still CD-RW or DVD-RW D/L +- or multi-format; non support blu-ray. Also a lot of computer makers, blu-ray is BTO option, and not standard on a lot of PC's.
So when the rest of the world adopts blu-ray as mainstream; then I will complain about the lack of blu-ray on Apple computers.
Same with USB 3.0 and Wireless N - None are 100% mainstream yet.
i've been following tech for almost 20 years and i can't remember the last time a new computer product cost more than the last generation it replaced. Apple innovated again.
Yes like over 50% on this thread.
What is with people that they think a company is gonna build a computer just for them! I want this....no I want that...no I want what he has.
Bloody hell what a bunch of cry babies.
These are good, not great, upgrades. They move the bar in many ways while maintaining a base that has not gotten old or outdated when compared to any other machines out there.
You say you want a revolution every 6 months.....people get real.
If you had a genuine need for the speed and performance of these new machines you would be happy. They are still the best laptops on the market taking all things into consideration.
Enough pity party crap already.
What
So by your definition a MacBook should now cost minus $100!!!!!
You might have been "following tech" for 20 years but you sure have zero understanding of it.
Dumbest post so far
I guess I should have been a little more specific.
model numbers?
like 9CBD, 9CC2?
i remember there was a huge hassle with the mid-2009 ones
Wait, and you think Apple cares about you? lol. They care less about you then I do, and thats saying a lot. Apple does not making MBP's for the "relatively" tech savvy. They make them for the masses. And the masses could care less about a quad-core, blue-ray, etc, etc, etc. Get a grip. Try and understand how and why Apple does what they do. Maybe then you'll stop making dumbass remarks. O, and have fun with your plastic, cheap, virus-prone, laggy, glitchy, crashing boring windows laptop. And thats without even looking at the design of almost ANY windows laptop out there.
What
So by your definition a MacBook should now cost minus $100!!!!!
You might have been "following tech" for 20 years but you sure have zero understanding of it.
Dumbest post so far
i remember when an average Dell cost $5000. and i know someone who bought a Dell laptop in 1998 for $3000 when laptops were still expensive. every time a new model computer comes out it's always cheaper, faster, more memory, more features built in. our 64 bit servers at work were like $30,000 each a few years ago with Xeon 5300's. the new Xeon 5600 based servers with twice the memory and a ton of new features are half the price. And HP actually makes money on every server they sell and the build quality is very good
Apple raised the price of the 15" MBP by $100 and the only thing faster is a new CPU. new graphics chip, but nvidia probably told apple that they aren't going to make anymore 9400's
What
So by your definition a MacBook should now cost minus $100!!!!!
You might have been "following tech" for 20 years but you sure have zero understanding of it.
Dumbest post so far
The $2500 PowerBook 100 was released with the other first-generation PowerBooks in October 1991. The PB 100 was the low-end version, for mobile Mac users with a budget.
That VAIO is a netbook using Atom, man.
Don't listen to him.
But still, I won't buy another Mac for the near future.
When I bought my MBP 4 years ago, there weren't other alternatives, spec-wise.
Apple used to use the latest parts from Intel, even before they were available to other manufacturers.
This time Apple was so late. HP, Dell and others have had i5/i7 since last year.
Also, things used to be Apple's unique features like the lit keyboard, metal body, thinness, etc can now be found on PC notebooks.
More important, while the spec difference diminishs, the price difference has gone up quite a lot. In the last few years, the price of PC notebooks just went down so much that the difference between similar spec'ed PC and Mac is just too big now for me to consider buying another Mac.
I think that's what a lot of confrontation on this thread stems from (not withstanding the fanboys) the expectation that these are supposed to be the "Pro" models. With Apple that has traditionally been the photo, graphics, and video fields and they have all been screaming for years for Blue Ray to deal with the ever increasing amounts of data, and the long term unreliability of hard drives (try shipping a hard drive of footage to a client and NOT be nervous about it). For me though the biggest issue is the lack of connectivity. No USB does not count. We need more Firewire, or eSata, but at the least it would have been nice to have the pci slot back on the 15's. I have an old (3-4 years now?) Core Duo that is more practical in the field than the new 15's since the express slot allows me to read panasonic cards straight from the cameras, or have an extra FW or eSata port. Now sure, I just don't update (as the fanboys will shout), but it seems a trade off that shouldn't have to be made. Apple's "pro" computers used to solve problems, now they just dance around them.
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Originally Posted by alent1234
i've been following tech for almost 20 years and i can't remember the last time a new computer product cost more than the last generation it replaced. Apple innovated again.
You are simply either too young or too dumb to understand what he is talking about.
Originally Posted by alent1234
i've been following tech for almost 20 years and i can't remember the last time a new computer product cost more than the last generation it replaced. Apple innovated again.
What
So by your definition a MacBook should now cost minus $100!!!!!
You might have been "following tech" for 20 years but you sure have zero understanding of it.
Dumbest post so far
You are simply either too young or too dumb to understand what he is talking about.
Amen. Apple, like any other computer company builds mainstream computers they think the consumer wants that will run all or most of the software for the platform (OS) of the companies' choice. If you want a special machine, then go to TigerDirect, NewEgg, or some other place and buy the parts and buld the machine yourself. I used to build (and repair) custom machines for myself and others. It was overkill what people wanted in a machine for what they used them for. I got out of the business when people started getting rediulous in specs and I could not buy the parts locally anymore (CompUsa went out of business). Most part stores closed up shop, since we live in a throw-away society that wants off-the-shelf products for cheap.
#1 - you get what you pay for.
#2 - no company is going to do a total BTO, if they do - you will pay a fortune
#3 - even with BTO options, if you speak to a knowledgable tech - some will tell you what you want is overkill, or they just don't suggest it.
#4 - also we are seeing a shift in computing; more mobile, very few people are tied to a desk 24 X 7. the cloud is coming (which I am not 100% in agreement with - security issues for personal information); but with that in mind, the power will be placed on the webservers at a data center rather than a PC running a browser. And with these tablet computers (ipad for one) the apps are almost if not as powerful as desktop apps (in terms of features and user needs); but are much less CPU and memory hungry. PLus the size of the application (on your drive) is much smaller.
We do not need real powerful machines unless you are doing video editing, running a webserver, development, or runing a database (like filemaker, MS SQL Server, etc). What we really need is for software companies and developers to get their act together, optimize and de-bloat the codeset. I was looking at a Python script written by a co-worker. What he did in 3 lines of code, took me 7 lines on an older version of Python.
the programming languages are being optimized and the tools are out there, we just need the developers and the software companies to rework their software to run more efficiently.
Nice. So nearly 30% faster, higher resolution screen AND better battery life
BTW, here's a nice bit from that link for those who would miss it otherwise
Which probably means it can do Flash at only 95%
LMFAO
Steve was/is right,Dump Flash NOW
Well said, and I agree. You can get PC laptops with the same specs (or better) for a much cheaper price. I understand that at the end of the day, those laptops still run Windows, so I wouldn't want them.. but still it just kind of aggrevates me. If I were to buy a new MBP for around $2K, I basically want to have the baddest, most awesome laptop around. A friends 1 year old Sony or whatever shouldn't compare. Maybe that's an extreme example, but you all get what I mean. You can't overlook Apple's hardware design either though, which also plays into the price.
Right. Core i7 is nothing but a brand name. Thinking it implies 4 cores is like thinking a Ford must have 8 cylinders.
There's an Arrandale Core i3; i3-350M and 330M.