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Installing won't happen without some user interaction (or enabling of auto install).

> I was very very very careful with the UI interaction so that it wouldn't install.

There was no interaction. It happened in the middle of the night. Phone was on WiFi, connected to the charger and I was the only one in the room.
 
> I was very very very careful with the UI interaction so that it wouldn't install.

There was no interaction. It happened in the middle of the night. Phone was on WiFi, connected to the charger and I was the only one in the room.
Aside from auto-install that can also happen if at some point you were prompted to install and you selected to do it later (rather than not to do it at all essentially).
 
Aside from auto-install that can also happen if at some point you were prompted to install and you selected to do it later (rather than not to do it at all essentially).

Ahhh I actually remember seing that prompt much earlier. The only options out of that modal window though was to actually select to do it later or install it now. I slected later since I couldn't exit the window any other way, assuming it would ask me for permission at a later date again. It seems that this is a pretty poorly designed UI if the OS assumes I'm granting it permission without any means to select Do Not Install.
 
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Ahhh I actually remember seing that prompt much earlier. The only options out of that modal window though was to actually select to do it later or install it now. I slected later since I couldn't exit the window any other way, assuming it would ask me for permission at a later date again. It seems that this is a pretty poorly designed UI if the OS assumes I'm granting it permission without any means to select Do Not Install.
Do you recall entering your passcode as part of that process?
 
Apple forced the iOS 12.1.2 on me even though I have automatic software updates turned off. This also means they used my bandwidth unknowingly to download this update.

If Apple does this all the time, it likely explains network issues caused with multiple iOS devices. I'm pretty unhappy with Apple software these days!

I just caught your post. I got a notice tonight that 12.1.2 was gonna install later tonight. It already downloaded and Auto Install was turned on. I NEVER have Auto Install enabled. Turned it off, but update has already been downloaded. Don't think I can undo the download---
 
I just caught your post. I got a notice tonight that 12.1.2 was gonna install later tonight. It already downloaded and Auto Install was turned on. I NEVER have Auto Install enabled. Turned it off, but update has already been downloaded. Don't think I can undo the download---
You can go to the storage options of the general section of settings and delete the download there.
 
Do you recall entering your passcode as part of that process?

No, I'm pretty sure it just exited the window after I selected Later. If I had to enter my password, that would have raised more flags. I remember thinking though, "Ok it's probably just going to ask for permission again later."

I remember this happened on another prior update that I deliberately wanted to hold off on too—so this time, I was very careful on where I tapped and what my settings were on.
 
...It seems like the update process is a bit screwed up right now.

Can't argue with that. You definitely might want to check your Updates flag to ensure it hasn't been reset (without your knowledge, I know people had it happen with the 12 update) - Settings / <your User at the top> / iTunes and App Store / Updates.

Mine was disabled and it didn't download it on me - but my two housemates who had it enabled both had it downloaded and waiting for a charger plugin to install (before I deleted <Settings / General / Storage and scroll down> and turned it off for them). That said I believe it if it downloaded on you with it disabled...its pretty "encouraging" although we're not to Windows 10 installation level yet.
 
Can't argue with that. You definitely might want to check your Updates flag to ensure it hasn't been reset (without your knowledge, I know people had it happen with the 12 update) - Settings / <your User at the top> / iTunes and App Store / Updates.

Mine was disabled and it didn't download it on me - but my two housemates who had it enabled both had it downloaded and waiting for a charger plugin to install (before I deleted <Settings / General / Storage and scroll down> and turned it off for them). That said I believe it if it downloaded on you with it disabled...its pretty "encouraging" although we're not to Windows 10 installation level yet.

That's so interesting that it didn't download for you. I rechecked my iTunes App setting and confirmed it is still disabled. My iOS software auto update is also disabled. So, I guess there's some bug around this whole process.

I'm glad I learned about the storage deletion option for the future though. I just don't like that it still downloads in the background without my permission.

And yeah, so true about it still better than Win10 updates.

I think I will take more screenshots next time. I did take this one.
 

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I wonder did iOS 12.1.2 (Build 16C104) corrected an connectivity issue with the 2018 iPhone models that used the Intel XMM 7560 modem chip? My iPhone X (Model A1901 with Intel XMM 7480 modem chip) has not experienced the connectivity issues most people mentioned with Build 16C101 of iOS 12.1.2.
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I wonder did iOS 12.1.2 (Build 16C104) corrected an connectivity issue with the 2018 iPhone models that used the Intel XMM 7560 modem chip? My iPhone X (Model A1901 with Intel XMM 7480 modem chip) has not experienced the connectivity issues most people mentioned with Build 16C101 of iOS 12.1.2.
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It doesn't seem that most people have experienced issues of that type.
 
I thought so too, but I thought it hapoened before to me. I chalked it up as something I did by mistake though. This time though, I was very careful and rechecked that I had automatic updates turned off. I even tweeted to others how to disable it in Settings. I had a red badge indicator for days telling me that a new update was available. This morning when I tried to use my phone for the first time though, I noticed that I had to unlock my phone which kind of scared me since that happens after an update. I immediately noticed that the red bad update badge was gone from the Settings icon too. I looked at Software update setting again and was told I had the latest software 12.1.2 and can still see that automatic updates are turned off.

I'm peeved that the update happened but also that it used my bandwidth unknowingly.

Did anyone else notice this?
It most likely happened in the middle of the night. I’ve never had that happen but I always turn off auto updating and even with that I still get pop ups once a week saying there is a new update. I just hit dismiss.
[doublepost=1546185625][/doublepost]Later always means at like 2 or 3 in the AM.
 
I hop in late here.. been missing auto updates on this thread. Not kidding :)

Well, when prompted for an update, we seemingly need to dismiss and at the same time perhaps make sure we delete the downloaded update that is prompting to install. Would it have been preventing teaneedz’ update?

This whole behaviour of automatically downloading without the user consent, be it in the background according to the position of a toggle or by a prompt that doesn’t seem to exist is a first problem one.

The fact that when actually having an update file on your phone, it causes some kind of anxiety is another one.

The fact that deleting that very file is asking for a new first problem.

All this sums up to Apple actually forcing users to feel uncomfortable when not having the latest update, even fooling tech savvy folks like us.
No wonder they have the most updated user base out there.

This needs to be kept an eye upon!

To continue down that alley: I bought a new phone, (going from a 7 Plus to an 8 Plus - I ain’t going to buy these new full screen and no button phones as long as possibly can)

... and guess what: it forced me to update to the latest iOS, before I actually could set it up.

Do we need to accept this???
 
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