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Thanks Apple.

But, it would have been nice for this to have been announced prior to all the whining that occurred about the lack of physical media options.

Apple does't talk, their products do. One of the few corporations that act this way.

What would have been nice, is for everyone that whined in post after post about clean installs, and no physical media to have taken a chill pill and at least wait until they get screwed to complain about getting screwed.

As if Apple would have required you to install a previous operating system prior to the new one they want you to install. I can see the Microsoft commercials now...
 
when u set up a usb flash drive with this, can u update other macs from snow lepoerd to lion?
 
No download necessary. It uses the recovery partition to create the USB recovery image.

EDIT: Unless the recovery image is not a full installer, which is possible.

Correct, the recovery image is a bootable toolkit. It connects to the internet to pull down everything else.
 
Recovery disks that come with Macs only have the drivers for that mac.

Retail Disks have the drivers for every mac that can upgrade to that OS as of the point release when the disk was made.

I thought that this was how this was accomplished but wasn't exactly sure so I didn't want to state that was the reason.

Thanks for clarifying.

The recovery partition does the download for you. In the support article, it states that you need a minimum of 1 GB of space on the drive, indicating that it isn't a full install, same way the current recovery partition is. When you select install mac os x it goes out and grabs the file from apple's servers and then copies those onto the disk, then procedes with the install. In order for this to work you have to be hooked up to the internet.

Ok. Wasn't sure about this. Thanks.
 
Why are you reinstalling?

I would tend to disagree - every time you'd need to install you'd have to redownload the almost 4 GB, correct?

It would have been much nicer if this utility would let you select either making a stand-alone USB/DVD or if you just wanted to have the recovery disk. I would love to not have to use my internet connection every time I replace the HD (had to do it last weekend for my fiance's computer, and doing it this week for my new SSD).

Just put the install.esd some where.

This just in, Apple is giving away a million dollars to any one that calls up and asks for it. Commence whining about the bad hold music and the length of time it took them to send you your money.
 
This is the exact same thing as copying your lion recovery partition... It isn't a full install disk, and you have to redownload Lion every time you use it.

Snap.

Does anyone know the minimum size the USB drive needs to be? I'm guessing 8GB but can anyone confirm?

I makes a recovery disk that is like 700 megabytes. So you don't need a big disk.


when u set up a usb flash drive with this, can u update other macs from snow lepoerd to lion?

You can if you've purchased Lion on the AppStore.
 
I am running 10.6.8 and I am planning to update to Lion at the same time I install a new (blank) hard drive in my MBP. I am wondering if I can download Lion on my current internal drive but not install it and once I seat the new drive in the MBP install Lion on it using this recovery drive, given that Apple should see I already paid for it. I also wonder if it would work if I purchase Lion from the App Store but don't complete the download on the current internal drive.
 
The recovery partition does the download for you. In the support article, it states that you need a minimum of 1 GB of space on the drive, indicating that it isn't a full install, same way the current recovery partition is. When you select install mac os x it goes out and grabs the file from apple's servers and then copies those onto the disk, then procedes with the install. In order for this to work you have to be hooked up to the internet.

I'll probably stick to making my own manual copy of the installer on an external drive then, so I won't be dependent on a download
 
I am running 10.6.8 and I am planning to update to Lion at the same time I install a new (blank) hard drive in my MBP. I am wondering if I can download Lion on my current internal drive but not install it and once I seat the new drive in the MBP install Lion on it using this recovery drive, given that Apple should see I already paid for it. I also wonder if it would work if I purchase Lion from the App Store but don't complete the download on the current internal drive.

The following would better apply to what you are tying to do.

As posted by Egg Freckles, this method should work in the final retail release of Lion:

- Once Lion is released, purchase and download it from the Mac App Store.

- Locate the OS X Lion installer and right-click on it. Select 'Show Package Contents'.

- Inside the 'Contents' folder, there is a 'SharedSupport' folder. Inside that is the Lion Installer. It's called 'InstallESD.dmg".

- Copy 'InstallESD.dmg' to the Desktop by clicking and dragging it while holding down the Option-key. You should see a little green plus icon if you did it right.

- Open Disk Utility. Head to the Go menu in the Finder and select 'Utilities'. Disk Utility should be in there.

- Click the burn button.

- Select 'InstallESD.dmg' from the Desktop, insert a blank 4.7GB DVD and wait. Once it's finished, you'll have a shiny new Lion install DVD.

You can now install Lion on whatever machines you like, just as if you'd purchased the install disc from your local Apple Store. Lion is expected to launch on the Mac App Store this week.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/18/make-an-os-x-lion-boot-disc/
 
Now how do you make a Lion Install Disk (containing the full ~3.74GB of Lion)???

This is a recovery partition disk, NOT a full Lion install disk.

I get the idea that in order to perform a Lion clean install, you would need a dedicated internet connection to re-download the full 3.74GB of Lion. I would like to be able to make a DVD install or USB install of the Lion installer.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/18/make-an-os-x-lion-boot-disc/
 
I already had to create a Recovery DVD using the unofficial method prior to this because of some issues that needed repairing by Disk Utility. (The DVD was extraordinarily slow, BTW. I certainly recommend a flash drive over a DVD any day.) So, it's nice that Apple finally released this. (Though this should have been out since Day 1, of course.)
 
For some reason, this feels like it has undertones of the great Bootcamp battle of '06.

Community derides Apples hardline stance and creates its own solutions to fix it.

Apple realises this will open the gates for the everyman to try it themselves and potentially break their machine.

Apple retroactively releases their own official solution and look like saviours.
 
I am running 10.6.8 and I am planning to update to Lion at the same time I install a new (blank) hard drive in my MBP. I am wondering if I can download Lion on my current internal drive but not install it and once I seat the new drive in the MBP install Lion on it using this recovery drive, given that Apple should see I already paid for it. I also wonder if it would work if I purchase Lion from the App Store but don't complete the download on the current internal drive.

Just follow the earlier guide to do a full usb Lion install drive if you already have it on your hard drive.
 
Windows...no!

Think Balmer will allow this for Windows?

This he'll sell the next version for $30?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA;)
 
Most likely.



No download necessary. It uses the recovery partition to create the USB recovery image.

EDIT: Unless the recovery image is not a full installer, which is possible.

The recovery partition, from what I've seen, just gives you the ability to boot into a version where you can run utilities, or, to redownload and reinstall if needed. I don't think 700mb that the partition uses has the full version of Lion.

EDIT: Saw that multiple people posted this many times while I was waiting for my proxy to post the message. Sorry for the dupes.
 
This is a step in the right direction, but still flawed, because it has silly unnecessary restrictions on where you can use the recovery USB disk!

A universal Lion boot USB drive would be awesome in an enterprise environment.
 
Just put the install.esd some where.

This just in, Apple is giving away a million dollars to any one that calls up and asks for it. Commence whining about the bad hold music and the length of time it took them to send you your money.

You know the attitude isn't called for.

I was merely saying what would be nice for Apple to do. Instead of making me save off a file that's not "supported" by Apple. Because god knows, if Apple and Jobs don't bless it and you f something up, they will void your warranty.:rolleyes:

All I was trying to say was that instead of me having to do it the hard way, they should have let you have the option to do it. Just like hiding your Library folder. I should get to pick.
 
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If only I had this a day or two earlier...
 
not the full downlolad

This application simply creates a recovery partition. You still need to download the system when and if it is required. As far as I'm concerned this is useless since I am frequently in locations where a fast internet connection is not available.

Follow the link to the Apple site for more information.
 
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If only I had this a day or two earlier...

I hear that. Imagine my ire at finding out that after installing Lion, it deletes your download image... I always save off my ISO/DMG files that are in the sizes of gigs in order to speed-load whenever I need to reformat or reinstall any of my computers... I had to download the whole thing over again last night and for some reason the internet or Apple's servers were overloaded. It took me 4 hours to DL the image where it only took me 30 minutes the first time. I couldn't image having to do this multiple times for multiple computers... Imagine if you're in the corporate environment and need to image all these PCs? I'm sure they all did the unofficial boot CD, but still...
 
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