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Apple Releases Utility to Create Lion Recovery USB Key

Its great that apple has released this little app, but in my humble opinion this is functionality that should just be built right into the Disk Utility App. Hopefully this is just intended as a quick solution to get people to simmer down and hopefully one of Apple's upcoming point releases (10.7.1, etc...) will just update Disk Utility with this functionality.

(also would be nice if it would be able to make a full install USB, not just a utility/partition to have to download Lion again.)
 
Apple should really have given us the choice for a full recovery partition or the internet-connected one that is currently default. I'd gladly give up 4GB of space for a full recovery partition.
 
ok can anyone help me?!

i did this little thing, and i put it on my 4gb flash drive that had some other files of mine on it. after i did it, my mac would not read the flash drive, and then i saw that on the apple site it said it would only show up when you restart and hold command. and when i plug it into my windows computer, it says it is not formatted, and that if i format it, all data will be erased. So is there any way i can get into my flash drive and get this lion thing off of it so i can have my files back?!
 
With our reading the entire thread, this method can't replace the unofficial method. This method supposedly downloads a FRESH copy of Lion (so you need internet access) The unoffiial method has the FULL version of Lion, so installing it doesn't require internet access. Funny how it said downloading additional components during the installation (I did a fresh install) I wasn't connected to wifi, so it had no internet access, so it can't download.
 
munkery said:
I doubt an OS software installation issue would void your warranty.
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You mean like Jail Breaking? It's only software, too... Just saying.

Most people don't realize that if you don't use Apple's way, they don't have to support it. I'm not saying they won't, but they don't have to contractually.

That includes upgrading your memory (or it did on the unibody Macbook's back in 2007) or your hard drive.

Just saying.
 
munkery said:
No problem.

Why do you use a proxy?

What proxy do you use?
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Work computer/internet.

Not sure of the proxy since I'm not in the tech department. But I do know they route all of the internet through the WAN pipe coming to this campus, down to the mother campus, which then translates out through the internet. So not only does the pipe I'm on carry the internet, but also all of the corporate LAN traffic. Guess which one gets prioritized? :)
 
Fix the false article please Macrumors!

This is false!

"We had previously reported that in order to do a clean install of Lion, Snow Leopard would need to be installed first. With this recovery partition creator, there is now an official path to perform a clean install without Snow Leopard. Also, this would seem to make the unofficial Lion boot disk creator unnecessary."

You still HAVE to download the 4GB install file from the internet with this small boot disc making the unofficial boot disc with full install file necessary still.
 
So if one's got lion on one computer, he or she could theoretically run this on from they're lion computer and install it on all their snow leopard computers? That seems a bit odd from apple to make it so easy for everyone to get lion.
 
swingerofbirch said:
I am running 10.6.8 and I am planning to update to Lion at the same time I install a new (blank) hard drive in my MBP. I am wondering if I can download Lion on my current internal drive but not install it and once I seat the new drive in the MBP install Lion on it using this recovery drive, given that Apple should see I already paid for it. I also wonder if it would work if I purchase Lion from the App Store but don't complete the download on the current internal drive.
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Or, you can clone your 10.6.8 drive to the new drive now and then perform the install when you move it over.

Apple doesn't care where you put the OS as long as you use the same Apple ID, it will say install under purchased apps.
 
Frosties said:
This is false!

"We had previously reported that in order to do a clean install of Lion, Snow Leopard would need to be installed first. With this recovery partition creator, there is now an official path to perform a clean install without Snow Leopard. Also, this would seem to make the unofficial Lion boot disk creator unnecessary."

You still HAVE to download the 4GB install file from the internet with this small boot disc making the unofficial boot disc with full install file necessary still.
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That's not quite true. The recovery partition will download and launch the install for you, which still makes it a clean install. You just need to be in range of internet, and, hopefully, fast internet.
 
MilkMan4 said:
ok can anyone help me?!

i did this little thing, and i put it on my 4gb flash drive that had some other files of mine on it. after i did it, my mac would not read the flash drive, and then i saw that on the apple site it said it would only show up when you restart and hold command. and when i plug it into my windows computer, it says it is not formatted, and that if i format it, all data will be erased. So is there any way i can get into my flash drive and get this lion thing off of it so i can have my files back?!
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Your data is gone. The warning said it would erase all the date on the drive, you should have taken it to heart. ;) Your only hope is to get a data recovery utility, or bring it to a professional if the files are important. I'd advise against the utility because those things can be dangerous for people who don't read warnings.
 
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iFanaddic said:
So if one's got lion on one computer, he or she could theoretically run this on from they're lion computer and install it on all their snow leopard computers? That seems a bit odd from apple to make it so easy for everyone to get lion.
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Actually, I think MacRumors.com had a post about this kind of activity being specifically allowed in the software agreement. I'll try to find the link unless someone else can beat me to it.
 
Finally, they've seen the light again, it seems.
Now let's hope they fix all the other Lion annoyances and bugs soonish and I'll be a happy Apple fanboy once again.
 
munkery said:
I doubt an OS software installation issue would void your warranty.
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thetoad30 said:
You mean like Jail Breaking? It's only software, too... Just saying.
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Jailbreaking is not reinstalling the OS. Beyond that, most jailbreaks are 100% reversible.

thetoad30 said:
That includes upgrading your memory (or it did on the unibody Macbook's back in 2007) or your hard drive.
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Machines that are defined as having user serviceable memory and drives are still under warranty even if the user upgrades.

MilkMan4 said:
ok can anyone help me?!

i did this little thing, and i put it on my 4gb flash drive that had some other files of mine on it. after i did it, my mac would not read the flash drive, and then i saw that on the apple site it said it would only show up when you restart and hold command. and when i plug it into my windows computer, it says it is not formatted, and that if i format it, all data will be erased. So is there any way i can get into my flash drive and get this lion thing off of it so i can have my files back?!
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The files are most likely already lost due to the USB being reformatted when converted to a Lion recovery drive. Sorry.
 
arkmannj said:
Its great that apple has released this little app, but in my humble opinion this is functionality that should just be built right into the Disk Utility App. Hopefully this is just intended as a quick solution to get people to simmer down and hopefully one of Apple's upcoming point releases (10.7.1, etc...) will just update Disk Utility with this functionality.

(also would be nice if it would be able to make a full install USB, not just a utility/partition to have to download Lion again.)
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I agree that this would be a great place for it. It would also be useful in the System Preferences pane.
 
munkery said:
Jailbreaking is not reinstalling the OS. Beyond that, most jailbreaks are 100% reversible.
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Jail Breaking is reinstalling the iOS to allow it to connect to other software not under Apple's control. Most of the original iOS remains. I argue that it's like adding a P2P file sharing app to Windows 7. But yes, jailbreaks are reversible. So is installing an OS. :)

munkery said:
Machines that are defined as having user serviceable memory and drives are still under warranty even if the user upgrades.
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My point exactly. Apple's are not defined like this. The memory might be for the newer PCs, but when I had my black unibody Macbook, it was NOT approved.

Hard drive swaps on any Mac, from what I've seen, are expressly not allowed in terms of warranty. Again, the individuals servicing the PCs are allowed to make decisions, but they don't HAVE to follow through if you've changed the PC outside of Apple's express okay.
 
res1233 said:
Your data is gone. The warning said it would erase all the date on the drive, you should have taken it to heart. ;)
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im pissed now! nowhere on apples website did it say that it would reformat the drive or erase all other data! alls it said was make sure you have 1gb of space on it! this is bs, this is madness!
 
MilkMan4 said:
im pissed now! nowhere on apples website did it say that it would reformat the drive or erase all other data! alls it said was make sure you have 1gb of space on it! this is bs, this is madness!
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Okay, I can't take it. It warned you in the app in red letters next to a yellow exclamation mark... They even made the letters red, as I said, so it would stand out and hopefully not be overlooked. You really have no right to by angry at anyone but yourself. Sorry if I sound harsh but... Wow...
 
I got excited but you still have to perform a fresh install over an internet connection. I'll stick to the unofficial method which lets you download Lion offline, thanks.
 
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