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If I say to Siri

“Hey Siri, turn on the light” she turns on both the actual light that I named “Light” and the light strip named “LED Strip”
Your argument would be valid if the LED strip was named “LED Light Strip” or something, but it isn’t. It’s a dumb led strip connected to a Meross smart plug. The “Light” is an actual Nanoleaf smart bulb.

A 10 year old knows better, Siri doesn’t. Either my 8 year old cousin is much smarter than most 10 year olds or Siri is dumb as ****.
I certainly hope a human at 10 years old is smarter than an AI computer. If not there's something wrong with the parent.
 
The one problem is that the Home Pods are the only way to have an always-on hub for HomeKit. I wonder why Apple does not release the server as an installable package on different platforms.
 
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it's called armchair CEOing and that's what we do here at MacRumor's

we are allowed commenting on it, since ya know, ti's a comment thread about the topic... Seems weird to come in acomplain about people doin that :p

People were able to accurately predict this one years ago. Considering how many times apple was predictedt o have a "failure" of a product, only to not, the odd time we get it right, we're allowed commenting
Excuse me???? Did you forget that you replied ME with a response to my earlier post towards a different member? I'm just responding to what you said to me. I'm not complaining about complainers, I'm responding to what you said to me. The irony in your post. 🙄
 
Excuse me???? Did you forget that you replied ME with a response to my earlier post towards a different member? I'm just responding to what you said to me. I'm not complaining about complainers, I'm responding to what you said to me. The irony in your post. 🙄

lol now I'm lost.. Sorry
 
Honestly don't get it now, as HP Mini is cheap.

Yes, Siri's still missing logical operators - AND, IF, OR. That's my biggest complain, but what else???!

In 95% of cases I use Siri just to turn on/off lights, add reminders/timers a of course play music.
Siri is just the worst. It often gives visual responses to auditory questions. And it can't really answer any questions. It's so fair behind Google and Alexa it's mind blowing. I love Apple but just really wish they would do something to fix Siri.
 
I guess we can also establish that smart speakers haven’t been the next big computing platform critics had been hyping it up to be, so it’s no big loss that Apple hasn’t been more heavily involved.
 
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Apples prices are just ridiculous. On Amazon Prime Day I got an Echo Dot for $19 AUD delivered. I’m an apple user but at that price why not? Now I have it plugged into my stereo system and I must say I am impressed. Way better voice recognition than Siri and way smarter at working out what I am asking for. We are using it a lot for music choice when we don’t want to think about it. Again I stress it was $19!!! Apple need to innovate on pricing which they have never done.
 
I love the HP Mini - good sound in a small room and works great for my growing smart home. My family loves to just say "Hey Siri, living room lights" or "Set downstairs lights blue" etc. It works flawlessly with HomeKit.

However, my 8 year old son who has a Google Nest I was given as a gift, says Siri is "dumber than Google" ... in a way he's right. He likes playing music games and other activities with the Nest - Siri doesn't offer any of that.
 
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I love my HomePod mini but Siri sucks and I do wish it were a little bit louder. We have a Google Nest at our house and she recognizes me much easier than Siri and it can connect to multiple music sources.
 
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Hmm interesting how there a few of the same style of writing posted trashing Siri when the article has nothing to do with Siri, but rather it's about the HomePod which can easily be used without Siri. I'm thinking there are outside sources lurking?
 
Hmm interesting how there a few of the same style of writing posted trashing Siri when the article has nothing to do with Siri, but rather it's about the HomePod which can easily be used without Siri. I'm thinking there are outside sources lurking?
What? The reason you buy a smart speaker is due to how “smart” it is. Dumb Siri defeats the purpose of owning a smart speaker at all
 
What? The reason you buy a smart speaker is due to how “smart” it is. Dumb Siri defeats the purpose of owning a smart speaker at all
What you're stating has nothing to do with the article. It's only about the HomePod not penetrating the market. If this was just about Siri it would've been mentioned in the article.
 
Going to bed at night... "Siri, turn off the light." "OK, what room?"

It really doesn't understand or learn that this means "turn off every light". Sure, at some point I will have automated that limitation and remember "Siri, turn off the light in all rooms"... but right now, it's an annoyance.

Siri also doesn't understand instructions like "Siri, play jazz for 15 minutes in the bedroom". The "15 minutes" throws it off.. so it is ignored. Also, that Apple uses airplay is an annoyance compared to Spotify connect (and similar things on other services, as Tidal) as it applies to all sound and will get highjacked if you e.g. open a picture with a sound on twitter when you listen to music.

Finally, the competition would include Sonos which has much better sound quality and flexibility compared to the HomePod.

Apple here is between the low end from competition who really want to get into your house/life and monetise that rather than the devices themselves (Google, Amazon) and devices that are just better (Sonos, Bluesound, Heos)
So I have Hue Lights tied to HomeKit and commands work for me. I can say, "turn off living room lights" and off they go. For the whole house, I haven't tried because in my use case I have everything on schedules. Playing music on a timer, haven't tried that either as honestly I would just tell Siri to pause when I was done.

Your statement referencing sound quality I agree with. I do think Apple has a very good speaker with an above average assistant that competes very nicely in the market. I'm not a fan of the OG Homepod's initial retail price though.
 
I keep thinking about Siri's limitations, and how you can opt out of sending recordings to Apple. But even if no one opted in, couldn't they still program Siri to answer more types of questions anyway?

I have a friend who asks Google random questions like "Who is Joey's mom on Friends?" and it would reply with "According to the website blahblahblah.com..." and read the answer. I'm trying to understand, why does it need recordings of people in order to be able to provide an answer like that? Is it not possible to parse the sentence anyway?
It is - people just like to use that excuse to pardon apple's poor AI product.

An AI being able to hear and interpret complex answers is a different skill than an AI being intuitive and proactive.
 
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Apple has only one speaker the main reason. My minimum smart speaker needs are a large sound speaker, night stand speaker with screen, a portable speaker for sunroom/deck, and a home theater soundbar. Not surprising they are a small player, with nothing to offer for my needs.
 
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Early on, my HomePod, iPhone and Apple Watch all knew which device should be listening/responding. Now, it's a hot mess. I ask Siri to play some music and get a "I don't have a clue" response on my watch, even if standing two feet from the HomePod. As a speaker, it's wonderful. As a hub for home control, etc; it is a complete failure due to Siri. It's incredible to me that after all these years, Siri is so dumb.
 
Hmm interesting how there a few of the same style of writing posted trashing Siri when the article has nothing to do with Siri, but rather it's about the HomePod which can easily be used without Siri. I'm thinking there are outside sources lurking?
Probably that due to Siri's stupidity, the HomePod is nothing more than a run of the mill bluetooth speaker with good sound.
 
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What you're stating has nothing to do with the article. It's only about the HomePod not penetrating the market. If this was just about Siri it would've been mentioned in the article.

The headline states Apple is "Largely absent" in the smart speaker market. The reason for that is Siri's stupidity, and Apple's ridiculous pricing. But if Siri was even half smart, the pricing wouldn't have mattered.
 
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