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I've never owed a confederate flag and see it as a non-issue BUT!

This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. The Apple way died when Steve did and it's becoming almost comical. I will NEVER buy another Apple product again, EVER!

Apple won't care....
 
The context of this article on Mac Rumors is about Civil War titles and the use of the confederate flag in said titles. Actual history is what is being referred to by using the flags IN CONTEXT, and not the perverted adaptation and adoption of Joe Billy-Bob's muddin' rig's decoration.

Yeah and he asked you if you read the article. By your reply to him it seems the answer is still no.
 
Everyone's on a witch hunt...while we're at it let's delete "White Men Can't Jump" and "The Great White Hype" as they are racist movies.

or White Man's Burden or every Chris Rock stand up show... for that matter lets ban ALL black comedy since it is nothing but racist jokes towards white people.
 
Jesus christ... what a load of political correctness BS!!

This whole discussion puts the great country of the USA to absolute shame for 2 important reasons:
1. Until a couple of days ago nearly no one gave the confederate flag any attention or i guess most people didn't know what it even stands for. So the media/television has to educate (or manipulate) the public to let them finally realise whats going on. This makes the american school system look really really bad and also the american society that the media has so much power over the people!

2. LETS ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS! The people that were horribly killed in Charleston (RIP), were not killed by the confederate flag, they were killed by a crazy guy with a GUN!!!! It is kind of ironic that the american gun culture and its laws come from around the same time as the confederate flag (=civil war), but nobody especially politicians in the US dares to touch the gun culture or tries to introduce stricter gun laws!?
I guess the flag doesn't have such a strong lobby as the guns, so it makes it an easy target! To me this looks totally like a smoke and mirrors action, just to deflect from the real problem, which is guns and firearms!

Lets get real for a second, sadly enough there will always be racism (even in other countries), taking down the confederate flag will not change anything and its just symbolism, but changing the gun culture and its laws might help that annually around 12,000 americans are not dying anymore!

I want to make sure that nobody gets me wrong, I'm all against racism and intolerance!

Too bad that Apple joins this political circus, maybe they should consider pulling apps like CCW – Concealed Carry 50 State Guide:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ccw-concealed-carry-50-state/id443321291
 
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The "Confederate flag"
"Rebel flag" redirects here. For the red and black flag commonly used in video games and symbology for unnamed or generic rebel movements, see bisected flag.

The rectangular battle flag of the Army of Tennessee
Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30]Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags, it is commonly referred to as "the Confederate Flag" and has become a widely recognized symbol of the American south.[31] It is also known as the rebel flag, Dixie flag, and Southern cross and is often incorrectly referred to as the "Stars and Bars" (the actual "Stars and Bars" is the first national flag, which used an entirely different design).[32] The self-declared Confederate enclave of Town Line, New York, lacking a genuine Confederate flag, flew a version of this flag prior to its 1946 vote to ceremonially rejoin the Union.

So you just proven yourself wrong. It was the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, and to be historically accurate you would use it to represent a southern army attacking you in a game.
 
in this case they only changed because of ONE INCIDENT. The flag was included in a photo of a hate criminal.

It's interesting how two weeks ago no one was talking about the confederate flag. Do symbols really change overnight, or is it yet another knee-jerk reaction from people and companies in a country that pride themselves on freedom?
 
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Only partially correct. The flag of Army of Northern Virgina is the "Rebel Flag", and also some battle flags of the Confederate Navy. So in the context of a Civil War GAME, it would be accurate to have the "other" flag representing the south.

The Tennessee Southern Cross flag is closer to the design we know. The stars on the Virginia one don't extend all the way to the edge.
 
Yes the confederate flag is a racist symbol that has very few legitimate uses. But this is ridiculous, the one context that it is appropriate is in the context of the civil war. If it was being used in another context I can see it being appropriate to remove it, but here it is like using the swastika in a WWII game. I know that isn't allowed in Germany, but as long as it is kept in its historical context it should be allowed.
 
It's still rewriting history, but you go ahead and pretend that Democrats are the only villains, just like the blogs you read tell you.

I'm not pretending anything. Facts are facts. Also it took a majority vote to change the pledge, which included DEMOCRATS...shocker.
 
Have you read any of them? The Old testament has many references to kill those who are not from the tribes of Israel. The Quran has a whole section where it describes how women are less than a man, and how you need 3 of them for a witness at a trial for every man.

I have never read the Torah, so I cannot comment on that one.

However there have been more people killed in the name of God/Allah than any other cause. I am not picking on the just the Islam here, Christianity is as equally responsible.

Absolute nonsense.

Hitler hated religion.

Atheist dictators and women who have abortions have been responsible for more murders than anyone else in human history.
 
I'm sure Germany could repurpose the swastika as a peace symbol, claiming they're using it to serve as a constant reminder of the error of their ways, and intend on doing nothing but good deeds under its banner.

...but it'd still piss a bunch of people off.

I could appoint myself the first Grand Dragon of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan chapter of the NAACP. What better way to show that attitudes change than to use the symbols of a hate group as a force of good will?

...but it'd still piss a bunch of people off.

The fact is, there are still a lot of people walking around today who remember Jim Crow, who remember being called names, threatened, held back, or even know someone who was killed by people who happily flew a flag that they now consider their cultural heritage.

...and it pisses a bunch of people off.
 
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I think people are blowing this confederate flag thing out of proportion. So what do we do now, erase the Civil War from the history books? No, it's not right that a government building is still flying the flag on 2015, but at the same time this outrage over it is just plain ridiculous. People need to get OFF the PC bandwagon and start working on the real problems of today not something that happened close to 150 years ago.

People prefer to complain loudly about things that don't matter while sweeping real issues under the rug. Just wait until this is a litmus test for the next election.
 
I'm sure Germany could repurpose the swastika as a peace symbol, claiming they're using it to serve as a constant reminder of the error of their ways, and intend on doing nothing but good deeds under its banner.

...but it'd still piss a bunch of people off.

I could appoint myself the first Grand Dragon of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan chapter of the NAACP. What better way to show that attitudes change than to use the symbols of a hate group as a force of good will?

...but it'd still piss a bunch of people off.

The fact is, there are still a lot of people walking around today who remember Jim Crow, who remember being called names, threatened, held back, or even know someone who was killed by people who happily flew a flag that they now consider their cultural heritage.

...and it pisses a bunch of people off.

The German swastika is the symobl of the sun used in wiccan and other religions like that. They took a postive symbol and made it bad. So, why can't it happen in revers. Like I said symbols change.
 
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So many ignorant haters on here... CRAZY... Go back go Android forums.

So you're implying that everyone with a differing opinion than yours MUST be an Android user, and therefore all Apple users share your beliefs? Not sure what is more ridiculous, the story about the flag or your comment.
 
So you're implying that everyone with a differing opinion than yours MUST be an Android user, and therefore all Apple users share your beliefs? Not sure what is more ridiculous, the story about the flag or your comment.

Get over yourself, it's a joke. Durpa Durrrrr
 
You will obey...you will obey...you will obey...you will obey...you will obey...

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Wait, you are serious, aren't you?
I wouldn't be amazed if this is true.
The less media publishes those nazi flags, the sooner we can forget what things happened. Soon the current youth generation won't even know what those items represent and we can move on with our lives.

Oh wait... We mustn't forget these things. They're part of our history, our ancestors gave their lives for it and by informing people, we can respectfully remember, condemn and educate people so we won't repeat this black eras.

Silencing leads to misinformation, and general misinformation (via lies & deception) was one of the triggers that let these events happen in the first place. Awful, disgraceful and incomprehensible horror happened several times in our history.

(At least in Europe,) denying the holocaust is a felony. IMHO, censoring should be too.

The nazi, confederate or IS flags are not the problem. The problem is what they represent(ed). Usage for the matter of informing should be encouraged, not censored.

Company Y wants to monetize by publishing a game about these facts? Good! Not all people like reading books, pay attention in the classroom, watch documentaries or movies. If the game informed - just one - youngster about what happened, I consider it a win. Let him make his own conclusions and - with a good educational system - I'm sure he can, and I'm sure he'll make the right conclusion like you and me do.
 
Sounds like you live in the bad part of town. You display a gay rainbow your car will be destroyed by someone too. Haters will hate.
Nope, I grew up in a llw crime area
Sounds like you live in the bad part of town. You display a gay rainbow your car will be destroyed by someone too. Haters will hate.

Wrong. I grew up in a town with a very low crime rate. Rainbows are actually tolerated much more than southern flags. Fly that confederate flag on your car and we'll see how long it goes before it's keyed.
 
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