He can speak all he likes, just not in Apple’s back yard. Hate speech is poisonous, and the analogy comparing it to a science history just fails the reasonableness test.
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He can speak all he likes, just not in Apple’s back yard. Hate speech is poisonous, and the analogy comparing it to a science history just fails the reasonableness test.
Because Jones is full-on conspiracy wank, who spreads lies, hate and rage at people over facts. Go back and listen to a full show of his back before 2016 (before he and Trump had their now-ended bromance). There' nothing right-wing about his hate.
How do you define hate speech other than speech you don’t like? And who are you or Apple to decide what speech qualifies as hate speech. Anyway now Jones can play the victim being supressed by the nasty liberals. Thanks Apple & Facebook.
If you put your podcast on their platform, you abide by their rules. So yes, Apples decides what is 'hate speech' in order for you to comply and use their platform.
Everyone needs to realise what freedom of speech is - it's simply that the government can't arrest you for what you say. That's where it ends. If you use a commercial company as platform, you abide by their rules or you go somewhere else.
Who cares what he plays? He's claimed that Sandy Hook was a hoax. If he or anyone who follows him are angry about this, who cares? This is not a group any company has any business catering to unless they want to be in business with them.
And no, hate speech isn't simply speech one disagrees with. That gives legitimacy and cover to people like Jones. If you honestly believe Alex Jones is simply a different, benign pov on issues, time to check your moral compass.
Many? How many? You make it sound like literally everyone but you came out of seeing Infinity War and started indiscriminately trashing everything. I don't think that happened.
That is debatable for several reasons. First, the law has developed a concept that you must serve everyone equally. You can’t discriminate against someone without just cause. One could easily argue that discriminating against political and social views is the most dangerous form of discrimination. One could also argue that Jones is a kind of media himself enjoying a particularly high form of protection.
Second, a federal judge recently made the bizarre and novel ruling that Twitter is a public forum. She said Trump was obliged to not block people because of this. It followed from this that Twitter also could not block people. The same logic would apply to Facebook, Apple, and any media that offers a public forum for exchanging ideas.
There is most definitely protection for Jones’ speech in the penumbra of the first amendment.
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Modern day book burning move by Apple. Stupid, ineffective, counter-productive.
But now millions more will become aware of alternative news, and that’s a good thing.
I have long chosen Apple products and services over Google’s because I thought Apple was the more ethical company. That thought is out the window now. Apple is the establishment.
But now millions more will become aware of alternative news, and that’s a good thing.
I have long chosen Apple products and services over Google’s because I thought Apple was the more ethical company. That thought is out the window now. Apple is the establishment.
I’ve watched a few clips before. In what I saw there was no ‘hate speech’. But if you are familiar can you provide some quotes of his ‘hate speech’? It is only fair when charging someone with a serious offense to document exactly what constitutes the offending words.
Hahahahaha about damn time, this man is absolutely the scum of the earth. I can't believe there are actually people here defending the man, I can only assume they aren't familiar with his work and the awful lies he spews. This is the man who tried to say that Hilary Clinton was LITERALLY a demon.
Apple gets to decide what qualifies as hate speech due to owning the platform. Since we live in a free society you are of course free to not use their products if you disagree with them, as you are free to not use Facebook.
If we are afraid of these scum playing the victim then we will never be able to fix the problem. People like Alex Jones are dangerous and help to spread all the false information and conspiracy theories that have infected our society of late, there needs to be consequences.
Apple gets to decide what qualifies as hate speech due to owning the platform. Since we live in a free society you are of course free to not use their products if you disagree with them, as you are free to not use Facebook.
If we are afraid of these scum playing the victim then we will never be able to fix the problem. People like Alex Jones are dangerous and help to spread all the false information and conspiracy theories that have infected our society of late, there needs to be consequences.
It says more about your way of thinking that you think Jones is alternative news.
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Go back before 2016, and listen/watch the whole thing, and this will answer your question.
That is not how it works. If you make a claim you supply the evidence. In this case the evidence should be easy to provide. It would be quoting just one sentence of speech.
Only in the USA can a crazy nut job like Alex Jones get so much following. Do you have a flair for the dramatic? Is your educational system going under so people can’t rationally think anymore? Is it your political system with only 2 parties that causes so much hate and polarisation?
A person using a mass shooting for his own political gains by claiming it’s a hoax is despicable and he should be sued for it. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Good for Apple for banning him. If European nude paintings from the Middle Ages get censored by American corporations because you can’t handle some skin, you shouldn’t have easy access to hate speech either.
Not because the left are snow flakes but because conservative right has completely lost touch with reality.
A person using a mass shooting for his own political gains by claiming it’s a hoax is despicable and he should be sued for it. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Good for Apple for banning him. If European nude paintings from the Middle Ages get censored by American corporations because you can’t handle some skin, you shouldn’t have easy access to hate speech either.
Not because the left are snow flakes but because conservative right has completely lost touch with reality.
I’m not a fan of Alex Jones... but you really need to learn the difference between race and religion.
That's what makes issues like this so tough. They are subtle enough with their language that you can't just point to something and say "hatespeech" but it's painfully obvious if you look at his history and look at the blog. Here's an article on Snopes that goes into it a little more: https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/07...-jones-hate-speech-admins-keep-pages-running/
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I seriously doubt there are many cases of hate crimes against WHITE Muslims
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It's a history of foolishness I was comparing it to. We all operate with imperfect information. To claim that our worldview is an absolute truth, is just not valid. He's usually way off the rails, but even a madman sometimes makes a valid point, just as a broken clock is right twice a day. Free speech is important to our democracy, and shouldn't be subject to our preferences.
Yeah, freedom of speech pretty much means you cannot get into legal trouble for what you say. Hate speech is protected speech, at least in the US. The exception is a ‘direct’ call for violence.
That being said, Apple is a private company and can do as they please with their own platform. I disagree with their decision to just cut the extreme right views and not the extreme left views, both of which are harmful to the world, but I think that they have the right to do it.
If it were me, I would flag any (left, right, or otherwise) extremist podcasts with some sort of tag that lets the listener know that this person/group is found to be considered extreme by most people.
That being said, Apple is a private company and can do as they please with their own platform. I disagree with their decision to just cut the extreme right views and not the extreme left views, both of which are harmful to the world, but I think that they have the right to do it.
If it were me, I would flag any (left, right, or otherwise) extremist podcasts with some sort of tag that lets the listener know that this person/group is found to be considered extreme by most people.
You obviously don’t who what the EDL are, they are quite clearly against Islam and Muslims. My point wasn’t about one or the other it was that the EDL, UKIP and the BNP are racist, they clearly target Muslims as well as those who practice Islam.
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So it isn’t hate speech. It is just speech some people don’t like?