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It'll be interesting to see how people and the carriers will deal with someone stealing your phone completely and thus your phone line is still attached to the device esim and now you have to call your carrier and beg them to swap your sim to another phone. Which wasn't that the big deal with sim swapping protection and people stealing your line and activating it on another device. so how is the carrier gonna authenticate you for a legit sim swap and not be someone malicious trying to steal it.
 
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It'll be interesting to see how people and the carriers will deal with someone stealing your phone completely and thus your phone line is still attached to the device esim and now you have to call your carrier and beg them to swap your sim to another phone. Which wasn't that the big deal with sim swapping protection and people stealing your line and activating it on another device. so how is the carrier gonna authenticate you for a legit sim swap and not be someone malicious trying to steal it.
Beg? If your phone is stolen and you acquire another phone, there’s a high probability it can be activated on the carrier website without speaking to a human.
 
So I can no longer purchase an unlocked iPhone when visiting the US and pop in my SIM? Crazy! Imagine all the lost sales for them from international visitors to the US retail stores! I live in a country where the none of the mobile providers use eSIM, only physical SIM cards.

Terrible move on Apple's part.
Shouldn't be an issue for people coming here as long as your device has a SIM Slot. The ones with the hassle are the ones in the US with iP14 eSIM only traveling somewhere with no eSIM carriers
 
Why? It seems normal SIM's fulfilled the need quite well.
eSIMs will be pretty awesome once they are widely available. You can store several in your phone and switch between them by toggling switches. No more SIM ejection tools, and dropping a tiny sim on the floor of the airplane just before landing, etc. When I traveled a lot internationally in the past, I had probably a half dozen cards that were hard to keep track of. Now iPhones can store lots of eSIMs and you can have 2 active simultaneously. Once companies around the world issue eSIMs as easily as they do SIMs now, this will all be forgotten and people will be thinking back to "remember when we had those pain in the a$$ cards we had to swap?"

Not too many people are wishing we still had cassette tapes instead of downloadable music.
 
I was about to order iPhone 14 pro max, new Watch and Airpods Pro. Now without a physical slot I do not order any of them. I travel a lot.
May be you have different opinion, but for me Apple is over. i switch to Galaxy S23 , hope they in Samsung have brain not to follow Apple.
They will follow and Google
 
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eSIMs will be pretty awesome once they are widely available. You can store several in your phone and switch between them by toggling switches. No more SIM ejection tools, and dropping a tiny sim on the floor of the airplane just before landing, etc. When I traveled a lot internationally in the past, I had probably a half dozen cards that were hard to keep track of. Now iPhones can store lots of eSIMs and you can have 2 active simultaneously. Once companies around the world issue eSIMs as easily as they do SIMs now, this will all be forgotten and people will be thinking back to "remember when we had those pain in the a$$ cards we had to swap?"

Not too many people are wishing we still had cassette tapes instead of downloadable music.
Nonsense. People still use cassettes. And vinyl records, and CDs. They listen to analog radio and take pictures with film cameras. But they may not be called the general public.
 
Some thing, do not buy new iPhone.
Buy Samsung phone 📱 instead, iPhones are still not “foldable”, take years to learn it from Samsung like other features: physical size, waterproof, multiple cameras, watch, screen, memory size,…
 
One advantage is a thief can’t do a SIM card swap to another phone and get access to your accounts via sms 2fa codes.
Already accomplished in my case by setting a passcode on the SIM (requires it on every boot). And by calling the cell phone provider and telling them to lock my account so no SIM swaps of my number are allowed unless I physically show up at one of their locations.
 
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This thread reminds me of the headphone jack removal. Look where we are now on that.
Getting radiation into our brains by being required to use bluetooth devices to even hear our phones/tablets? And being limited by said earphones battery life? And the lower sound fidelity that bluetooth provides? Yeah, look where we are.
 
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Nonsense. People still use cassettes. And vinyl records, and CDs. They listen to analog radio and take pictures with film cameras. But they may not be called the general public.
Which is why I said "not too many people" and didn't day "no one." Some people still drive cars from the 1950's, but the mass manufacturers have moved on and so have most people. Right now we have a lot of people lamenting the demise of the physical SIM, but in a few years there will be far fewer people missing them. I don't believe Apple needs to support physical SIM cards forever. I'm okay with progress even if it causes slight momentary discomfort.
 
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Which is why I said "not too many people" and didn't day "no one." Some people still drive cars from the 1950's, but the mass manufacturers have moved on and so have most people. Right now we have a lot of people lamenting the demise of the physical SIM, but in a few years there will be far fewer people missing them. I don't believe Apple needs to support physical SIM cards forever. I'm okay with progress even if it causes slight momentary discomfort.
To be perfectly clear, make no mistake here, only the US general public.
 
100 Country eSim

 
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To all that have been saying that prepaid esim is available at Singapore Changi

I just landed at Changi on NH801. After walking around to 4 different Changi recommends (who actually does carry M1)

Guess what- only physical sim is available at the airport. ESIM is not an option for M1 at airport.

Nada, not possible. Just because M1 website its available doesn't mean you can get it.

So welcome to US iphone 14/14 pro- the $1600 brick.
 
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