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Or pretty much any other country, since US doesn't have restrictions in using foreign phones as long as it's unlocked.
I can see Hong Kong version will be in even higher demand.
Beware, frequencies can be different
My EU iPhone was not compatible with certain carriers
 
While I agree it can be pretty inconvenient today, the market will adapt as it always does
Sim resellers will start to issue esim and as the iPhone 15 will probably not have a sim tray for each any market, esim will become the norm

Removing the physical sim is the logical next step; that's more space for other components and less moving parts
agreed every several years apple does something that everyone freaks out about and then everything works out fine. I know it is fine because they tell me it's fine. also, why aren't more people complaining about the STILL 128gb standard option on iPhone?
 
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My biggest worry is that the carriers haven't opened eSims to the majority of prepaid and MVNO carriers. If the big players open that up, this is a non-issue (for domestic usage), but until that changes this is going to be crippling for some of the smaller carriers / MVNOs.

While I agree it can be pretty inconvenient today, the market will adapt as it always does
Sim resellers will start to issue esim and as the iPhone 15 will probably not have a sim tray for each any market, esim will become the norm

Removing the physical sim is the logical next step; that's more space for other components and less moving parts

Also allows for enhanced waterproofing (in theory) since there is one less opening for water to enter on the device. Not saying I'm thrilled with the move, but there's at least some rationale behind why they would want to do this.
 
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While I agree it can be pretty inconvenient today, the market will adapt as it always does
Sim resellers will start to issue esim and as the iPhone 15 will probably not have a sim tray for each any market, esim will become the norm

Removing the physical sim is the logical next step; that's more space for other components and less moving parts
I really hope so. Apple has had eSIM since what, the iPhone Xs? Yet eSIM adoption is very very slow. I predict 5G adoption will be faster than eSIM.
 
While I agree it can be pretty inconvenient today, the market will adapt as it always does
Sim resellers will start to issue esim and as the iPhone 15 will probably not have a sim tray for each any market, esim will become the norm

Removing the physical sim is the logical next step; that's more space for other components and less moving parts
He says as this is only applying to the US iPhones. All the other iPhones across the world still have physical SIM trays making this change redundant and is only confusing and pissing everyone off.
 
He says as this is only applying to the US iPhones. All the other iPhones across the world still have physical SIM trays making this change redundant and is only confusing and pissing everyone off.

Yet we already have carriers supporting and using eSIM, which would make the change from a physical tray to an eSIM that much easier, and making the tray redundant. Two of the biggest carriers in Australia, for example, have had eSIM support for years.

BL.
 
Also allows for enhanced waterproofing (in theory) since there is one less opening for water to enter on the device. Not saying I'm thrilled with the move, but there's at least some rationale behind why they would want to do this.
Prepare for the iPhone Pro Max Ultra, rugged iPhone to pair with the Apple Watch Ultra. ;)
 
Up until recently it was very easy to do over the phone. Unfortunately because of all the sim swapping hacks (involving millions of dollars in losses) carriers are far more reluctant to swap sims easily and not in person. It’s probably still doable but a warning that it’s getting harder.

I've not paid activation fees for many many years by swapping my SIM to every new phone. I guess that's over now.
Every E-Sim app i've used has been free. So I don't believe you'll be getting charged for swapping phones.
 
I'm still unsure of two things:

1.) Will the unlocked iPhone 14 Pro still have a SIM tray in the USA?
2.) Will it being dual-slot eSIM?
 
Now I wonder will Apple offer a "business" version of the iPhone 14 model in the USA for business people who travel a lot and have to use physical SIM cards in certain countries?
 
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Yet we already have carriers supporting and using eSIM, which would make the change from a physical tray to an eSIM that much easier, and making the tray redundant. Two of the biggest carriers in Australia, for example, have had eSIM support for years.

BL.
It will be definitely easier in some countries than others. But for this to happen, all the carriers must support eSIM. This already happens in the US, thus as I predicted, Apple can do this easily in the US.
 
...all remember they used to sell the "unlocked sim free" versions? It was basically an iPhone version that was not tied to any carrier activation. Perhaps they will have that option too this time??
 
I missed the keynote today because I had to hike to the top of a mountain after walking through a desert immediately following a scuba diving trip. Anything in today's announcements for me?
 
Now I wonder will Apple offer a "business" version of the iPhone 14 model in the USA for business people who travel a lot and have to use physical SIM cards in certain countries?
Apple's solution is for those people to get global eSIM.
Besides, travel savvy people will always have a backup phone, or can easily get a foreign version (from colleagues, friends, etc). I doubt this is going to be a big deal. I do hope this forces carriers around the world to take note and start supporting eSIM like they supposed to years ago.
 
That's rather missing the point though. Activating the user's eSIM while they are international allows them access to their domestic number, but you're paying immensely for international roaming. Having the use of eSIM and multiple SIMS allows the user to buy an eSIM card for the country they are in and getting a local number there, thereby avoiding the international roaming issues and costs someone would have.

A friend of mine and her husband just spend 9 weeks going through the US on business from Australia, and instead of paying the international roaming, they bought sims here, used local numbers here, then shut them down when they went home, and went back to their number down there. Tons cheaper than keeping their Australian line going while overseas.

BL.
I need the Brazilian number for banking. My Brazilian bank and their app will not do anything without receiving text confirmation codes. And I cannot add a U.S. number to the Brazilian bank account.
 
I'd like to know how can Apple store 8-12 eSIM profiles. And you wonder how many carriers in Europe support eSIM.
An E-Sim is essentially an encrypted token. Nothing more. The iPhone Cell Radio can load and activate 2 of those tokens at a time. But storing those tokens requires very little space. I'm assuming they are stored in the enclave, or at least the keys are.
 
"Traveling is a breeze."

"Before you go, activate an eSIM for the country you’re visiting"

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What a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake. I am still using an XS that I think is going to start to die soon (my older X started to have a random single "flick" for a lack of a better word before these sudden green lines appeared out of nowhere, which happened twice to me, in fact, on the X). Anyway, I was ready to jump in on this but the lack of tray is unforgivable, in my opinion. I will either buy the phone overseas, or wait out until next year to see if they are going to release the USB-C version. And in mean time, get a 12 or 13 on ebay Christmastime.
 
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