Apple Replaces Problematic 'Discoveryd' Process With mDNSresponder in 10.10.4 Beta 4

[grahamperrin]

For posterity: copies of the discoveryd(8) manual page for Yosemite, OS X 10.10.2

discoveryd is not amongst Apple's online manual pages for Mac OS X.

So, for posterity:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/discoveryd/

Also for posterity, not specific to 10.10.2, an Activity Viewer view of discoveryd run by _mdnsresponder

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

I think this says quite a bit on Apples management and QA. Having to roll back older versions of software, to fix newer releases, that has to hurt a lot.

Now, if they also roll back 10.6.8, with security fixes, then I'll be happy. I can live without all the extra fluff later versions added.

 

[subsonix]

I'm wiling to bet this discoveryd has something that is required for the new Apple TV (HomeKit hub) that helps discover 3rd party devices.

Device discovery always worked without problems using mDNSResponder. Both discoveryd and mDNSResponder uses multicast DNS, basically DNS without a central name server.

 

[bcc2k]

I can't believe it! That's really awesome Tim!

 

[ShadovvMoon]

I like this new approach to fixing bugs

 

[pingloss]

Amazing, all the freezes I've been having with web pages loading have just gone away. I've been tearing my hair out for ages thinking the issue has been with my own DNS server.

Pages would just hang on loading, submitting the request again would normally fix the issue but now there's no hanging at all.

I like this a lot!

 

[mkeeley]

Bit too early to tell but not had any wifi problems so far with beta 4, often have to turn off/on a few times a day.

Edit: Spoke too soon, it just dropped wifi.

 

[n-evo]

I haven't had any Wi-Fi so far with my new 2015 MacBook Pro. But then again I did purchase an AirPort Extreme along with it.

 

[AppleInHH]

This update fixed all Wifi issues

I have been hoping for a fix like this one.

My late '13 retina has been bugged with wifi problems, disconnects every 60 minutes, very slow speeds and everything seems solved with this update.

Finally.

 

[KJL3000]

Will this finally keep my Mac from counting up its device name? I'm currently at "MacBook Pro (16)" ...

 

[sillypooh]

I think this says quite a bit on Apples management and QA. Having to roll back older versions of software, to fix newer releases, that has to hurt a lot.

Now, if they also roll back 10.6.8, with security fixes, then I'll be happy. I can live without all the extra fluff later versions added.

Seriously, ever since Lion, the quality of the desktop software has been going down significantly and the features have been more and more redundant and insignificant. Here's Mavericks for me:
_ file sharing doesn't work as it should and connecting to servers other than by doing cmd-K is a lost cause. Forget about keeping shortcuts in the Finder.
_ Quicktime doesn't work with anything else but .mov, it's ridiculous
_ QuickView, by extension (with the whole missing QT API documentation, no support for Perian, missing third-party codecs thing) won't preview any video other than .mov and .mp4
_ Airdrop has never worked with me

The state of iTunes is just sad. The worst software ever made as the centre of your media and devices! Saying that it's not intuitive and convoluted would be the euphemism of the year. Friends with many years on Apple products, and regular iTunes users, keep asking me "hey, how do I add music to my phone?". It's not funny! Properly backing up your photos has to be done outside the app, and disabling seemingly unecessary cloud services threaten to wipe out your phone! All of these things should be simple and straightforward.

None of the new features of recent OS X iterations make my workflow any easier or faster. However, the bugs slow me down.

10.6.8 is so far, undeniably, the gold standard in efficiency in OS X workflow. And I should know, I've been on this train since MacOS 6!

As much as I love social media features on my phone, they should not be significant additions to our desktop OSes. All these "new features" shows how little Apple now understands its desktop user-base.

 

[peterdevries]

Airdrop has never worked with me

Same here. It is such a cool idea but not a quite good example of "it just works".

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All these "new features" shows how little Apple now understands its desktop user-base.

I think Apple's user base has changed dramatically (after iPhone and iPad)and where you used to be at the center, you are now probably more a member of a minority group.

 

[Ardmanz]

Same here. It is such a cool idea but not a quite good example of "it just works".

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Same, I've never been able to get it to work.

I really really hope this fixes my wi-fi issues.

 

[LaraCroft835]

tickety boo

All is good now for my MBP

 

[KJL3000]

This update broke java script for me... (loading slow as hell now)
UPDATE: seems fine now, don't know what was going on there.

 

[ItWasNotMe]

Now if only they would do the same with Time Machine

Revert to the Mavericks version and fix lots of issues would be a good step

 

[fivenotrump]

_ Airdrop has never worked with me

Never failed for me – I use it frequently

 

[Roller]

Seriously, ever since Lion, the quality of the desktop software has been going down significantly and the features have been more and more redundant and insignificant. Here's Mavericks for me:
_ file sharing doesn't work as it should and connecting to servers other than by doing cmd-K is a lost cause. Forget about keeping shortcuts in the Finder.
_ Quicktime doesn't work with anything else but .mov, it's ridiculous
_ QuickView, by extension (with the whole missing QT API documentation, no support for Perian, missing third-party codecs thing) won't preview any video other than .mov and .mp4
_ Airdrop has never worked with me

The state of iTunes is just sad. The worst software ever made as the centre of your media and devices! Saying that it's not intuitive and convoluted would be the euphemism of the year. Friends with many years on Apple products, and regular iTunes users, keep asking me "hey, how do I add music to my phone?". It's not funny! Properly backing up your photos has to be done outside the app, and disabling seemingly unecessary cloud services threaten to wipe out your phone! All of these things should be simple and straightforward.

None of the new features of recent OS X iterations make my workflow any easier or faster. However, the bugs slow me down.

10.6.8 is so far, undeniably, the gold standard in efficiency in OS X workflow. And I should know, I've been on this train since MacOS 6!

As much as I love social media features on my phone, they should not be significant additions to our desktop OSes. All these "new features" shows how little Apple now understands its desktop user-base.

Agree with most of your comments: Yosemite has been more problematic for me than any prior OS X version, requiring re-installation on several Macs. And getting things done in iTunes is a chore. But AirDrop has been a bright spot, and I regularly use it to transfer files between three computers.

 

[AndyK]

They renamed discoveryd to mDNSresponder to see if there's placebo effect

In before this actually is the case : D

 

[b0fh666]

I think this says quite a bit on Apples management and QA. Having to roll back older versions of software, to fix newer releases, that has to hurt a lot.

Now, if they also roll back 10.6.8, with security fixes, then I'll be happy. I can live without all the extra fluff later versions added.

this is a typical case of fools violating the rule #1 : don't try to fix what is not broken

and by reinventing the wheel and shoving it down the userbase's throat none the less.

pathetic.

 

[wtmcgee]

Now maybe they can look at rolling back whatever ails Bluetooth in Yosemite.

 

[TXCherokee]

Good to see a stable DNS back.

I'm likely in the minority here, but I had major WiFi problems on Mavericks with my 2012 mac mini. Yosemite fixed it. I'm hoping this 'fix' doesn't take me back to having to restart the computer every time it goes into sleep mode.

 

[SimonTheSoundMa]

Hooray! MBA 13" 2010 is finally working again on wifi!!!!
I have tried so many fixes and workarounds to get things working.
Every time it woke up from sleep it would take ages to get it to connect again. I'd have to toggle wifi on/off a few times. It was very very very frustrating.
Wanted to throw the laptop more than a few times and swear off all things Apple.

I noticed this too. No 100% CPU usage from that process at times too.

discoveryd is not amongst Apple's online manual pages for Mac OS X.

So, for posterity:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/discoveryd/

Also for posterity, not specific to 10.10.2, an Activity Viewer view of discoveryd run by _mdnsresponder

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Doesn't look like standard UI, what did you do to get it like that?

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

this is a typical case of fools violating the rule #1 : don't try to fix what is not broken

and by reinventing the wheel and shoving it down the userbase's throat none the less.

pathetic.

Good luck with your Apple I.

 

[C DM]

I think this says quite a bit on Apples management and QA. Having to roll back older versions of software, to fix newer releases, that has to hurt a lot.

Now, if they also roll back 10.6.8, with security fixes, then I'll be happy. I can live without all the extra fluff later versions added.

A fairly standard practice actually. Hard to say if this is really what happened here though.

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this is a typical case of fools violating the rule #1 : don't try to fix what is not broken

and by reinventing the wheel and shoving it down the userbase's throat none the less.

pathetic.

Do we know that's the case here? That there wasn't something actually better that should be there and just had some issues. Progress doesn't really work the way you describe it.