Apple Reportedly Cutting iPhone SE Production Just Weeks After Launch Due to 'Weaker-Than-Expected' Demand

[WLSON]

I just can’t figure out why you won’t answer the questions that has been asked of you multiple times, and then another member asked you questions, and you refuse to answer those questions too, you just reply with filler in baseless statement's hoping to throw off the discussion.

If you’re wrong, skirting sround with semantics isn’t helping you, just admit that. It’s not that big of a deal. You made a statement saying the phone ‘wasn’t selling well’, there’s no valid source that indicating it isn’t. You said it was, I asked for a source showing me numbers. You can’t provide that. What’s so difficult about that? I mean, it’s really simple.

It's not that I won't answer them, I have done so repeatedly and you have repeatedly proven to lack any basic reading comprehension skills. I'll make one last attempt, mind you this is all information in the article you commented under:

Nikkei Asia, which is a respectable publication, stated a "cut back on production of the ‌iPhone SE‌ for this quarter by as much as two to three million units, citing weaker-than-expected demand."

Ming Chi Kuo, which is a respectable Apple analyst, stated that "he is cutting estimates on shipments of the new iPhone SE from 25 to 30 million to around 15 to 20 million units for 2022. Kuo said the lower shipments were a result of low demand."

If this is is still too hard to comprehend please find someone that can draw it out for you.

 

[WLSON]

A 4.7" screen is preferred for some people over the 5.5" Mini screen (and if you don't understand why some people prefer the smallest screen available then I can't help you),

Sure, it's full of people that are looking for a small phone that not only choose the phone that is bigger but that has a smaller screen too. Anyway those (two) people are looking for a small screen phone not a small phone, big difference.

you can't change a ruler, you can't alter science and physics

The irony must be lost on you.

how you or Apple markets the phone, they can call it the small phone, you can call it whatever you like,

The fact that Apple don't market it as a small phone should give you a hint.

If you want a home button/no notch and a small phone, the SE 2022 is the only choice.

I think you may want to add some more qualifiers.

and of course the context is what is available in 2022, that is the whole point, if I don't like Max phones, what choices do I have, right now I have 2, simple, call it whatever you want, that is meaningless.

You have one choice, the iPhone mini. If not, your prority is not a small phone, you're looking for something else.

the only eyes that need to be checked are the ones looking at a ruler, the SE does not sit exactly in the middle, look again at the ruler.

Straight from Apple:

iPhone 13 mini: 131.5mm
iPhone SE: 138.4mm
iPhone 13: 146.7mm

Mid Point: 139.1mm

That means the iPhone SE sits in the middle, 0.5mm (0.012in) from 139.1mm is nothing.

And once again, the relevance is what can I buy in 2022, phones have ballooned in size, wow, what a revelation, so I can't buy a brand new 4" SE, I can't buy a 4" Pixel, no this is 2022, so why are you talking about the phone sizes of 5 to 10 years ago, seriously Sherlock, you are proving your own irrelevance with your posts. The only one that is concerned with how the phone is characterized is you, for the people who want to buy the most compact phones in the market today, they have 2 options, so I'll make it easy for you, what is the smallest in 2022, Mini and SE, case closed.

Genius, it's not a hard concept to understand. People who want a small phone only have one option, that is barely a small phone in the first place, the iPhone mini. Period.

 

[MacGekko]

Sure, it's full of people that are looking for a small phone that not only choose the phone that is bigger but that has a smaller screen too. Anyway those (two) people are looking for a small screen phone not a small phone, big difference.



The irony must be lost on you.



The fact that Apple don't market it as a small phone should give you a hint.



I think you may want to add some more qualifiers.



You have one choice, the iPhone mini. If not, your prority is not a small phone, you're looking for something else.



Straight from Apple:

iPhone 13 mini: 131.5mm
iPhone SE: 138.4mm
iPhone 13: 146.7mm

Mid Point: 139.1mm

That means the iPhone SE sits in the middle, 0.5mm (0.012in) from 139.1mm is nothing.



Genius, it's not a hard concept to understand. People who want a small phone only have one option, that is barely a small phone in the first place, the iPhone mini. Period.

Not the midpoint, you were wrong, and you clearly don't know what irony means. And in the context of 2022 phones, all three phones are small.

 

[Abazigal]

As a general rule of thumb, I tend to treat reports of Apple changing production orders with a healthy dose of skepticism, because very often, they don't give us a full picture of what is actually happening on the ground. I am reminded of the parable of 4 blind men each touching a different part of an elephant and then offering wildly differing interpretations of its appearance based on their own limited interactions with it.

First off, cutting orders from 30 to 25 million means that Apple is still expected to sell over 20 million iPhone SE models. A very respectable number in my opinion. I am not understanding the doom and gloom in this thread.

Second, it's not uncommon to set higher than expected production goals when you are expecting supply constraints. So Apple could have deliberately ordered more parts than necessary to hedge their bets, then cut back when the supply chain situation is turning out better than expected.

I think the main takeaway - that Apple expects to sell about 20-25 million iPhone SE is not getting enough attention. They should result in a respectable number of people entering the Apple ecosystem, which in turn allows Apple to sell additional accessories and services to them, and it's still a good piece of news however I look at it.

 

[44267547]

Nikkei Asia, which is a respectable publication

A ‘publication’ is not a source, (Who cares if they’re respectable) nor indicative of actual numbers produced when they don’t have access to sales per unit. It’s a rumor based off…..speculation. You have no argument where true numbers haven’t been released from Apple when the iPhone SE has only been available just over two weeks.

You were requested for a source based off your statement in which you are guided to provide under forum rules, you didn’t do that when requested. You choose to deflect to useless-baseless-frivolous filler post(s), and now you want to back-peddle. Own your errors moving forward when you’re challenged for your erroneous statements on a public forum.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

To split hairs, the SE more resembles the iPhone 8 with its wireless charging and lack of a 3.5" headphone jack.

That's true, but I was talking aesthetics which is the first thing humans judge something on.

 

[Stridr69]

Please let’s not forget the folks that vastly prefer a home button.

I have many middle-age to older age relatives that really really like the simplicity and ease of use with the home button.

At times I’m not sure the younger demographic understands just how difficult it is to interact with all the swiping and gestures are for many folks.

My older relatives don’t care at all about control center or notification center and certainly not multitasking. All this stuff that is popping up when they don’t want it and getting in their way and confusing them and they don’t know how to get rid of it

How old are they? Over 68? Let's chat. Otherwise, adapt.

 

[Mega ST]

I am below this age group and still prefer a home button - being a SE3 owner.
Why change something good for something else only because it is different? A home button can be used with both hands easily, you can have the Touch ID unlock your phone without moving it to your face, even inside a pocket, and it is just user friendly and super simple to have "one" button. It feels even a bit like a final bit of Steve-era heritage flavour on the iPhone as well.
Having said that I would have hoped for under the screen Touch ID by now on the 13. This would be an improvement.

 

[sahmraw]

I have an 8 plus. I love it for its size and home button. It cost me about £240 a year ago and as a backup phone it does its job. I have it mainly to connect to my Apple Watch. I use an Android as my main phone though.