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Apple Reportedly Launching Two New iPhones with Larger Flat Sapphire Displays in September

Ted13 said:
If this is true, I may have to hang on to my iPhone 5S for an extra year, and hope that sanity returns by the iPhone 7. If you want a large screen, for the love of Mike, get an iPad.

And no, I'm not saying Apple shouldn't produce larger screened phones for the no taste people out there, but please keep making a 4" phone with the top of the line components every year.

Do any women work at Apple? Have you tried putting a 5" phone in the pocket of women's designer jeans? The current one can barely, barely fit. The 3.5 model was much better. That's half your customer base right there!!!

Please, Apple, step back from the cliff before it is too late!
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Where im from... Women actually carry bags with them; and alot of them own that big old galaxy note x... So it's irrelevant if women can or can't carry a Big Phone... Personally I would love a Bigger iPhone!
 
Ted13 said:
If this is true, I may have to hang on to my iPhone 5S for an extra year, and hope that sanity returns by the iPhone 7. If you want a large screen, for the love of Mike, get an iPad.

And no, I'm not saying Apple shouldn't produce larger screened phones for the no taste people out there, but please keep making a 4" phone with the top of the line components every year.

Do any women work at Apple? Have you tried putting a 5" phone in the pocket of women's designer jeans? The current one can barely, barely fit. The 3.5 model was much better. That's half your customer base right there!!!

Please, Apple, step back from the cliff before it is too late!
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Believe it or not, in S. Korea and China, women are driving the high sales of phablets. They don't necessarily put them in anything. They carry them about in their hands and lay them down on a table or counter when not in actual use. Even in the Korean communities in Queens, NY, the women never seem to let them out of their hands. It's almost as though they constantly use them or wait for calls or texts. However, it's hard to tell what the actual percentage of users really need large display smartphones. I think Apple should at least offer a second size and naturally keep the smaller version. Then Apple would find out for sure which size is in most demand. I believe Apple is somewhat foolish for not giving at least two choices of display size. How much could it really hurt wealthy Apple to offer what every other smartphone manufacturer is offering? Would it really throw their design teams and production plans out of kilter? Or is Apple just being lazy? One size doesn't fit all but I also don't think they need to offer five different sizes like Samsung does.
 
Ted13 said:
If this is true, I may have to hang on to my iPhone 5S for an extra year, and hope that sanity returns by the iPhone 7. If you want a large screen, for the love of Mike, get an iPad.

And no, I'm not saying Apple shouldn't produce larger screened phones for the no taste people out there, but please keep making a 4" phone with the top of the line components every year.

Do any women work at Apple? Have you tried putting a 5" phone in the pocket of women's designer jeans? The current one can barely, barely fit. The 3.5 model was much better. That's half your customer base right there!!!

Please, Apple, step back from the cliff before it is too late!
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A 4.7" phone isn't that big from a 4" depending on the bezel and form design. I think it's the perfect size for anyone who doesn't want to go too big or too small.
 
Ted13 said:
If this is true, I may have to hang on to my iPhone 5S for an extra year, and hope that sanity returns by the iPhone 7. If you want a large screen, for the love of Mike, get an iPad.
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iPads don't make phone calls or text to other phones outside of iMessage....and the iPad is much larger than the reported phone in this thread....it's kind of silly of you to compare the size of the reported iPhone to an iPad.
 
Moonjumper said:
I think they will only drop the 4" screen as top end phone if they can make the 4.7" phone to a similar overall size. Bezel less could manage it for width, but they would need to reduce the height more than they do in the mock-ups. It could work if the home button is touching the bottom of the device and the bottom of the screen, with the top end reduced to match. It might be difficult, but would look great.

The current iPhone still follows the @2x convention. 4.7" could well involve some kind of rounding (4.6894" for example would not be very marketable), and 441ppi is somewhere near @3x, so a possible 1704x960.
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@3x resolution at 441ppi should be 4.43" if i did the math right. I think the most simple solution is retain the current 326ppi and expand screen size to 720p at 4,5" or 768p at 4,78".
 
SvP said:
I'm glad that women's designer jeans compatibility is not likely to be an influencing factor in a product that has an already big marketshare. The jeans will have to adjust!
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I think most women put their phone in they purse anyway.
 
BarryLegg said:
This is slightly off-topic perhaps, but the most opportune time to mention it.

Does anyone else feel that, as the technology improves and as the design becomes more and more transparent, there's going to be less and less to get us excited about the actual appearance of our devices?

What I mean is, we're now at the stage of the long-foretold handheld screen. The futuristic compute device seen in sci-fi movies for decades - a glowing rectangle held in the hand with almost no physical evidence betraying how that hand-held glow got there. It just is.

Are the days of aesthetics (in terms of industrial design) numbered? Because we're almost there - the wafer-thin, cable-less, buttonless, screwless, distractionless chassis for the touch-screen. Design is soon not going to be 'almost invisible' it's going to be invisible, period. And this kind of saddens me.
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In some ways it saddens me, in others I hope it brings a return of 'substance' rather than just style. I disagree with some of Apple's recent design decisions - no ethernet on high-end laptops (can understand this on the Air), no optical drive in the iMac, desktops without the ability to swap out the HDD's easily (iMac and Mini). Apple does these things as a lock-in to apparently improve their sales, but this is the main thing that puts me off Apple. Luckily the combination of OS X, iCloud and IOS is unbeatable at the minute.
 
I've been wanting an S3/S4 sized screen for some time now.

I happen to far prefer iOS and Apple's hardware to that of Android and Samsung, so I've never considered switching, but a bigger screened iPhone will be mine this year. :D
 
Will the 4.7" model be considered the cheap/budget one replacing the 5C??

4.7" is about the sweetspot screen size for me. 5.5" is just too big for me. I hope we can get a 4.7" with all the latest tech inside.

Maybe something like:

4.7" budget model,
4.7" flagship model,
5.5" flagship model.
 
BarryLegg said:
This is slightly off-topic perhaps, but the most opportune time to mention it.

Does anyone else feel that, as the technology improves and as the design becomes more and more transparent, there's going to be less and less to get us excited about the actual appearance of our devices?

What I mean is, we're now at the stage of the long-foretold handheld screen. The futuristic compute device seen in sci-fi movies for decades - a glowing rectangle held in the hand with almost no physical evidence betraying how that hand-held glow got there. It just is.

Are the days of aesthetics (in terms of industrial design) numbered? Because we're almost there - the wafer-thin, cable-less, buttonless, screwless, distractionless chassis for the touch-screen. Design is soon not going to be 'almost invisible' it's going to be invisible, period. And this kind of saddens me.
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Yeah, I think the glowing-rectangle was the revolution. Now that all our phones are glowing rectangles, we can't expect to see another revolution in that form factor.
 
There is no way Apple discontinues the 4 inch iPhone, though Apple may release a 5 inch alongside it. Also, Apple is not making a Phablet. Lastly the screen resolution on all these rumors don't make sense. Apple will use the same resolution for the smaller iPhone while they will use 4x resolution for the bigger iPhone.
 
Just look at all the people calculating ppi to screen size and resolution to "debunk" a rumor.

Who knows if it's true, but have you all ever heard of a typo? Surely they didn't mean 441 ppi for both screen sizes.
 
1080p = approx 4.995" Screen

I'm not really good with maths, but here's my attempt at it:

Google says 1080p = 1920 x 1080 resolution.
Pythagoras says a^2 + b^2 = c^2.

My calculator says:

1920^2 = 3686400
1080^2 = 1166400

3686400 + 1166400 = 4852800

sqrt(4852800) = approximately 2202.90717

2202.90717 / 441 = approx 4.995"


Frankly, I'm not seeing 1080p from a 4.7" or even a 4.8" screen.
 
lordofthereef said:
Just look at all the people calculating ppi to screen size and resolution to "debunk" a rumor.

Who knows if it's true, but have you all ever heard of a typo? Surely they didn't mean 441 ppi for both screen sizes.
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The debunking is not just that the PPI is reported wrong, it's that the actual PPIs must be much higher - 474 for the 5.5" and 555 for the 4.7" - such high PPI screens don't even exist on the market yet, which means if Apple was to be the first one, it would probably be incredibly expensive to put them in every phone, raising the costs of manufacturing the phone and lowering their profit margins, which they would probably not want to do, making the rumor seem very unlikely.
 
BarryLegg said:
This is slightly off-topic perhaps, but the most opportune time to mention it.

Does anyone else feel that, as the technology improves and as the design becomes more and more transparent, there's going to be less and less to get us excited about the actual appearance of our devices?

What I mean is, we're now at the stage of the long-foretold handheld screen. The futuristic compute device seen in sci-fi movies for decades - a glowing rectangle held in the hand with almost no physical evidence betraying how that hand-held glow got there. It just is.

Are the days of aesthetics (in terms of industrial design) numbered? Because we're almost there - the wafer-thin, cable-less, buttonless, screwless, distractionless chassis for the touch-screen. Design is soon not going to be 'almost invisible' it's going to be invisible, period. And this kind of saddens me.
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Honestly, it's sort of the point of good design, at least for me. I'm not an industrial designer but I am a graphic designer. This is a belief I add to my own practice.

The design should be so good that the viewer shouldn't even notice it. That's how easy it is for them to read and navigate the page/screen.
 
The debunking is not just that the PPI is reported wrong, it's that the actual PPIs must be much higher - 474 for the 5.5" and 555 for the 4.7"
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Sharp has shown LCD screens using IGZO (at 5 inches) to spot PPI's of 498..as far back as 2012..Their is even a youtube video on the display..

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/1/3056490/sharp-caac-igzo-498-ppi-display-prototype

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1SRHJurCXU

I bet samsung (which owns a stake in sharp) and/or LG also have something similar in the works.
 
Ted13 said:
If this is true, I may have to hang on to my iPhone 5S for an extra year, and hope that sanity returns by the iPhone 7. If you want a large screen, for the love of Mike, get an iPad.

And no, I'm not saying Apple shouldn't produce larger screened phones for the no taste people out there, but please keep making a 4" phone with the top of the line components every year.

Do any women work at Apple? Have you tried putting a 5" phone in the pocket of women's designer jeans? The current one can barely, barely fit. The 3.5 model was much better. That's half your customer base right there!!!

Please, Apple, step back from the cliff before it is too late!
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Please also make a 2.5-3" iphone mini that is almost like the current ipod nano as well.
 
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