I'm still surprised no one has designed a dock-port attached flash/battery (possible case) combo with a camera app for existing iPhones.
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Just remember (and I can't take credit for the following statement) that the best camera is the one in your hand at any given moment. Is my iPhone ever going to be as good as a DSLR, NO! That said, I would bet that 99.99% of people who own and iPhone and a DSLR carry their iPhone with them more often than their DSLR which makes capturing any imagery with the phone just as important. So, go ahead and add a flash, add an optical zoom (please!) and a better sensor because whatever you add is likely to be the best image capture device I'm currently carrying at any give moment.
Fixed flashes on any camera don't produce the best photographs. However, it does allow you to photograph in low light and produce a viewable image when you do not have the ability to adjust shutter speeds. A flash on a phone sounds reasonable to me. In addition, many other camera phones have a flash builtin. I don't see the flash having any negative affect on the camera quality. As for megapixel, yes we know that a higher pixel count does not necessarily mean it will produce a better quality image. In this case, it is almost certain that the sensor is no better than what is in the 3GS. What we do know is that many other phones have 5 MP cameras and companies have to stay competitive. 5MP will in fact produce a larger image than 3MP, so there is actually a difference. You can also figure that the cost of a 5MP camera with a flash is probably not much, if any, different than what the 3MP camera cost on the 3GS at the time they began to manufacture. I think some people try to read too far into why Apple will put a 5MP/flash in the next iPhone (if they do so). I personally think it is simply because other companies are doing the same.
Wonder what the case will look like with the flash integrated, I'm sure they'll find a really neat way of doing it.
Who cares about better camera?
Its a phone, damn it, not a camera!
Bring us multi tasking and better battery life!
Its a phone, damn it, not a camera!
Bring us multi tasking and better battery life!
Sure...So was my old nokia with calculator screen, i assume you some years ago you were complaining when phones with color screens started coming out.
I agree. Anyone on this forum is not the average cell phone consumer. Your average consumer goes to the verizon/at&t/radio shack and asks about the different phones available. The employee says, "they can all run apps and surf the web. This one is the top of the line android/blackberry/iPhone. This one, however, has a 5MP camera with a flash. The top of the line iPhone has a 3MP camera." The average consumer than thinks, what's all the hype about the iPhone? This guy just told me that the Android/Blackberry/HTC is the best.
The original iPhone camera was 2MP, which was upgraded to the current 3.2MP. That created a large pool of people who had used "both pieces of equipment" as you challenged. They took shots, as you also proposed. My recollection is the consensus was that the new phone's camera produced better pix. That was my personal experience, too.
A 5MP might or might not continue that progression, but i think it likely.
I'd like to know the sizes of the 2MP and 3.2MP and rumored 5MP sensors. Anybody know? That'd put a more fact-based spin on this thread.
I'm sure you have a lot of experience and a lot to contribute here. But trust me, there are other "actual photographers" here too.
Its a phone, damn it, not a computer!
Why do you want multi tasking!
(More battery life is always good tho.)
As a photographer I would say that a better lens would make a better photograph rather than pumping up the megapixels on the camera unit, flash's on most compacts and camera phones are poor at the best of times due to their location(usually right next to the camera's lens) and at eye level with your subject which creates guaranteed red eye everytime!!
Mike.
Megapixels are often pure marketing gimmickry like the old MHz wars. IN fact, without great optics to back up those megapixels, a higher-MP sensor can actually make a WORSE picture because its more sensitive to noise: even with the 5MP image is scaled down. (Many examples are onlinethe difference is often striking.) Im skeptical that cell phone is going to have optics to beat many 5MP full-size cameras. In which case, not only are you getting worse pictures, but your pictures are burning up extra storage space for all time!
That said, IF the optics in a cell phone can be good enough to not have 5MP noise problems, then Id gladly have that feature, for the sake of cropping in if nothing else. Lets hope Apple cares about noise more than me-too bullet points, and gives good-quality 5MP or none at all. Until we know what they release, all we can do is look at the noise problems with other 5MP+ cameras.
As for flash... well, taking a close-up in a dark room is a no brainer
yes but your link, which is very interesting btw, says the sweet spot is 6 megapixels. So an increase is in order for the iphone camera.
While I'm not a big fan of a flash on a camera phone, this idea would be the absolute coolest way to integrate a flash.
Haha kind of cheesy but I'd be down for it. I don't think it'd work though because when you hold the phone to take a pic your finger usually covers the apple.
I've been out for awhile, I hope the new iPhone will have more than a better camera... I'm coming from a 3G and hoping to upgrade this summer.