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I would love to see these for home use for games and such... but if you are referring to people walking around in public with something like Google glass, I agree... no way.
The power of the Apple brand will be such that people will want to be seen in public with these AR glasses. Just look at how quickly Airpods have become so commonplace. Google makes good tech, but they just have no design sense, which is why their google glass product got the backlash it did.
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We only disagree on the time frame. I see it within 5 years.
My guess is within the next 2-3 years.
 
LOL this so did not happen or not for that reason at least... companies like Apple (or even mom and pop tech shops everywhere) have fleets of distributor reps always visiting to try and sell them on their latest kit. They would have no reason whatsoever having to go to CES to meet them.
 
The power of the Apple brand will be such that people will want to be seen in public with these AR glasses. Just look at how quickly Airpods have become so commonplace. Google makes good tech, but they just have no design sense, which is why their google glass product got the backlash it did.
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My guess is within the next 2-3 years.

I suppose you are right. People were pretty upset when the saw people wearing google glass.. being afraid of them recording them or taking pictures, etc. Some businesses banned them from use. But if there were a far greater number of people using them, and they were more natural looking, i think the shock value would disappear pretty fast and people would just stop caring so much.
 
I suppose you are right. People were pretty upset when the saw people wearing google glass.. being afraid of them recording them or taking pictures, etc. Some businesses banned them from use. But if there were a far greater number of people using them, and they were more natural looking, i think the shock value would disappear pretty fast and people would just stop caring so much.
Another reason why I think a pair of Apple-branded AR glasses is more likely to succeed - the strength of the Apple ecosystem.

By virtue of the iPhone, Apple owns the best customers. That's why the Apple Watch is as profitable as it is - because the people who buy iPhones are (usually) the ones with the disposable income to spend hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on what is basically an iPhone accessory. Same with the AirPods and its $160 price tag. People are willing to spend money on them. Likewise, Apple glasses (or whatever it will be called) will not be cheap as well.

Second is how I see Apple positioning the AR glasses. Use the iPhone to promote AR (iOS 11 brought ARkit to hundreds of millions of iOS devices), use this opportunity to find the killer app for AR, while at the same time highlighting the limitations of trying to consume AR in a small, handheld form factor. Proceed to reveal a solution in the form of a pair of AR-glasses that don't need to be held or put away. Just as the iPad had tons of iPhone apps ready when it was released, the AR-glasses will have tons of AR-enabled apps available as well thanks to the iPhone.

Because Apple gets both design and technology, I see Apple as being more uniquely positioned to succeed in the wearables field than any other company.
 
I'm wondering if Tim has perhaps nothing else lined up in the way of disruptive, industry-changing technologies, other than the rumored autonomous driving tech that apparently is also still several years away.

He's done a great job so far building on past successes, but in the absence of truly innovative disruptive new tech, those unprecedented market highs Apple currently enjoys will eventually dry up and he knows it, which leaves me pondering whether Tim is grasping at straws with the whole AR/VR thing. I'll happily be proven wrong on this one.

Cook predecessor had a 30 year long career where he came out with essentially 2 ideas, computers for everyone and a smartphone with a user interface good enough that anyone could use it. More than 20 years passed between the 2. The same can be said for every technology entrepreneur. Why everyone thinks Cook, that's CEO since 2011, should come out with all these innovative and disruptive ideas to be a good CEO is beyond me. Cook success may seems smaller than Jobs' (Apple Watch, AirPods) but if not for iPhone, that came very late in his career, Jobs' successes (macs, iPods) were actually comparable to Cooks'. AppleWatch is on track to be as successful as iPods at their highest less than a year from now. AirPods are doing very very well. Cooks is not very successful only when compared to the most successful and profitable tech product ever.
 
Cook predecessor had a 30 year long career where he came out with essentially 2 ideas, computers for everyone and a smartphone with a user interface good enough that anyone could use it. More than 20 years passed between the 2.....
That's a bit of an oversimplification. Are you forgetting about the ITMS. Talking about disruptive there, at a time when Napster, etc. were reigning supreme, and the labels were crying the blues and bombarding congress to save them from extinction, Steve's ITMS (besides doing very well for Apple) pretty much saved the day for the record companies.

And what about the staggering success of the App store after the introduction of the iPhone.

You also didn't mention the introduction of the iPad, again at a time when inadequate and hamstrung NetBooks were a (short-lived) thing.

Then there were perhaps less dramatic, but no less notable improvements such as 2008's unibody laptops carved out of a one-piece extruded block of aluminum. An idea poo-pood at the time by critics as too labor intensive, unworkable on a large scale, and simply too expensive to continue offering after Apple "saw the light" on that one. Actually a brilliant idea that solved several problems at once. Aside from, as a metal, being relatively light, much more rigid bodies in view of the trend towards ever thinner enclosures, generally stronger laptops with fewer parts that could eventually loosen and rattle, easier incorporation of the higher-capacity terraced batteries, and most importantly, with the thermal properties of Al, greatly improved cooling for increasingly heat producing CPUs and GPUs, with the entire laptop basically one giant heatsink. Btw, the thermal aspect an idea also used for desktops and the Mini, but sadly not for the Time Capsule, an enclosure incorporating both a heat producing PSU and a heat sensitive enterprise class HDD.

Anecdotally, Steve was said to have confided in Walt Mossberg who was at the WSJ at the time, that in his mind he finally had cracked the pesky TV problem, in his quest to also disrupt that dinosaurian industry. Whether Steve actually confided any concrete details of that plan to anyone at Apple, or documented them for his successors is doubtful however, considering the current and arguably increasingly fragmented state of that industry, and how we continue to consume our media. We will probably never know the answer to that question.

I'm sure I've missed some things such as Steve's intended inroads into the educational arena, but on the whole, the restless and perfectionist visionary Steve seemed to have a new area of interest to foist upon us every three or four years since his return in the late nineties.

Not in any way knocking Tim's performance, which under the circumstances has been excellent with the company having risen to stellar heights, but merely expressing an opinion that in the absence of a new visionary, the company will be increasingly hard-pressed in the coming decades to maintain its current perch at the top.
 
AR has numerous real-world uses. VR doesn’t. Which is why VR will go nowhere and AR will become popular.

BTW, it’s not just Apple. Google is also heavily promoting AR. They’re just way behind Apple at this point.


Exactly, imagine an AR driven city tour app.
 
:cool: mine don't don't do AR yet

Exactly, imagine an AR driven city tour app.
All well and good, I like the technology, but its not the real deal....

Better than noting sure,, but unless your actually there... its only an illusion... call it what you want. but for me, i prefer my holidays being exciting not sitting at home with AR glasses but and looking at the winter..

I need to feel it to be real.
 
With Apple's budget, I expect AR contacts. Call it the iSee or something.

Eventually yes. But there’s all kinds of clearances they would have to get, plus not all eyeballs are the same size and shape so they would have to get eye doctors willing to do the measurements for a good comfortable fit. And so on

So for now, glasses are the way to get started. I’d be all for something that resembled slightly bulky sunglasses, could be used in place of sunglasses because the outside of the lenses were basically sunglasses, with the image being protected on the inside (and perhaps even in a way where you couldn’t see the image from the ‘outside’). Even if it was controlled by my phone, watch or Siri. Maybe a non recording camera for translation functions etc.
 
:cool: mine don't don't do AR yet


All well and good, I like the technology, but its not the real deal....

Better than noting sure,, but unless your actually there... its only an illusion... call it what you want. but for me, i prefer my holidays being exciting not sitting at home with AR glasses but and looking at the winter..

I need to feel it to be real.

Why wouldn't you be there? Imagine seeing historical data overlays, like what the place looked like 100 years ago, facts etc. It has some industry disrupting potential - it just needs application and ubiquity.
 
Yeah, you’re really on to something here if you’re trying to be completely wrong.
Your opinion is greatly appreciated and really informative. I learned a lot. Danke
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I’m with you on this. At least I’m hoping it will not become a thing.
Personally, I couldn't care less if it does or doesn't. Right now, to me at least, it just isn't. That opinion is specifically about AR in the consumer space. As I noted in later comments, industrial/commercial applications seem to have a ton of potential. Consumer apps? Yawn. Every counter to my argument involves the Ikea app and the Warby eyeglass app. That's it. I don't even count the Pokemon app. AR down the road might be a thing. AR right now is not a thing.
 
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Duhh.
"Make it a big thing" by behemoth, immobile companies => let others do the innovation and buy them if they succeed
 
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