turbineseaplane
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I didn't say anything at all about the size, but I take your point.
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Apple Reportedly Planning to Launch iMac With OLED Display
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I didn't say anything at all about the size, but I take your point.
So, is there "common display technology" out there that provides:
- ~24"
- ~220ppi/4.5k resolution (not "4k UHD")
- Quantum Dot OLED (not regular)
Details matter. Two out of three doesn't cut it. Apple are committed to 220ppi displays which limits their choice a bit.
Did you read the article?
220 ppi OLED panels don’t exist yet.
That’s not exactly industry standard.
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It's the price points that do push people to fall for it though - as long as a base Studio Display and a base Mini cost more than a base iMac, a certain amount of people will buy based on the sticker price.
In a way, I'd be happier if Apple just made a " SE Display" or a "Neo Display" - the 24" panel from the current iMac in a case in a range of colors, and sold the matching peripherals, and then sold a Mac mini along with it.
I doubt if Apple cares what people choose, as long as it is Apple-made. It is the consumers that choose Mac Mini + display, because AIO is generally a poor way to configure long term computing. Probably Apple actually likes the AIO idea because it is a way to get folks to avoid seeing the sticker shock of Apple displays. I doubt if that many Mac Mini buyers buy ASD displays.
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I get it. Apple set some standard and now has to follow it. Meanwhile, millions of people buy Mac Mini's and MacBooks and connect to 3rd party OLED (and other) monitors and aren't complaining. I just don't think 4.5K vs. 4K is worth the cost and wait time.
Or vice-versa.
I bought a 27" i7 iMac in 2017.
The processor is completely outdated and no longer supported by MacOS.
The 5k screen is as good as anything available today for a reasonable price - it certainly holds its own with the more affordable third-party 5ks. The Studio Display is a little bit brighter and that's about it. If it had a DisplayPort or TB input it would be a perfect companion to a new Mac Studio... but it doesn't.
(Actually, even the computer part would be more useful if I could separate it from the display and plug it into the aux input on the third-party displays I'm using with my Studio).
Seriously, if you want a cutting-edge display today it's probably still going to be decent in ten years' time. Why get one irrevocably tethered to a computer that will be falling behind after 3-5 years? If it turns out that you're still rocking your M4 Mini in 5+ years' time, that's great, but why lock yourself in?
Do details matter? Can the average consumer that goes in to buy an iMac (in those fun colors) tell (or cares about) the difference between a 4K and a 4.5K display? What if Apple sold both configurations with the 4K being a few hundred dollars cheaper...which do you think more people would buy? I think their priority is deciding whether to buy the tangerine or lime green color!
Also, Apple is not requesting QD-OLED, they're requesting OLED. LG is supplying W-OLED so Apple doesn't care.
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?? Anyone with tight funds should buy a Mac Mini or a Studio, plus a third-party display. Buying an Apple AIO would be a terrible decision, because it is so long-term cost ineffective, and also subject to sudden large financial hits when any one component fails or is physically broken.
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lol, excuse me if I choose to think the trillion dollar company knows a little more than you on how and when to do this. Essentially, they do not need an excuse.
Yeah, you're right ... Apple always makes the right choice and knows exactly what everyone wants. /s
uczcret
macrumors 6502
People are still mourning the $1,799 5K 27" iMac, that's pretty much what all the current iMac bashing is all about.
It’s the color accuracy they insist on that probably takes so long. If they aimed for something lesser they could put something out a lot sooner, but they’ll never downgrade it on a product that already meets that standard, especially if OLED makes it more expensive.
I waited long to switch my maxed out iMac pro for something new, but I disliked white-border 24 inch, found brand new mac studio m2 ultra for like 1/4 of price on black friday, got few nice LG display and... I'm not even mad, I know iMacs sell by lowest number compared to other Macs but it just sucks they can't be bothered to slap a whole computer behind Studio display
Samsung Rumored to Supply OLED Displays for 16-Inch MacBook Pro and Future iPad Pros
Samsung is in talks with Apple about supplying OLED displays for a 16-inch MacBook Pro and future iPad Pro models, according to Korean site The Elec, which does not have a proven track record in terms of Apple rumors.
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The majority of consumer OLED displays are color accurate already...nature of the beast.
gsmornot
macrumors 68040
I have a feeling you're right and it's getting to be time to let go of my 2017 - 27" model. It still works great for most things but the software is falling behind. Ventura 13.7.8 is the latest version. I don't plan to get rid of this iMac until it dies but it will no longer be my daily use device.
You are only massaging specs when you say "The 5k screen is as good as anything available today for a reasonable price - it certainly holds its own..."
Displays wear out over time. I doubt that if you did a visual A-B comparison you would find that 9-year-old display holding its own against modern 5K displays. Unless perhaps it has been in the box unopened for 9 years.
Exactly. It wasn’t that an all in one was anything special on its own, it’s that you got a fully functional computer along with an ideally sized display that still costs too much by itself. Now with Apple Silicon that’d be an even better value. Hell, the new Studio Displays probably could already have been the Neo equivalent of iMacs if the A19 in them was used like the Neo, minus whatever processing they’re doing with it.
Can you point me to a similar display in size and resolution? I can´t fit more than 24, but like the high quality. I did not find 24 displays with at least 4k and similar brightness/contrast.
And you won't for like 3-4 years, apparently, so either compromise, or wait, wait, wait.
Since your standards are so high, I'm curious what you're using now?
I don’t believe „right choice“ can be used to describe any decision that is made for so many people.
my feeling is that the 27“ is the equivalent of the iPhone Mini in its demographic.
I agree, which is why my comment was sarcasm to someone who equated Apple being a billion dollar company to knowing what people want.
