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Apple Reportedly Prepping Revamped Apple TV: iPhone OS, Cloud-Based Storage, $99 Price Point?
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As I do recall I think the ATV was originally announced alongside the Original iPhone. So announcing it at WWDC wouldn't be a huge surprise. Especially if they are also announcing Cloud based iTunes. It would help developers to see potential for programming Apps for the new ATV App Store thing. If the RUMORS are true.
But by GOD I hope the recent rumors are true. Think of how freakin sweet WWDC would be. New iPhone with "Screaming" A4 and video chat, web based iTunes through free MobileMe, and an all New Apple TV. All that would take the Cake and Bake it! I can't WAITTT!!!! This year has a lot of potential. Suck that one Goog.
But by GOD I hope the recent rumors are true. Think of how freakin sweet WWDC would be. New iPhone with "Screaming" A4 and video chat, web based iTunes through free MobileMe, and an all New Apple TV. All that would take the Cake and Bake it! I can't WAITTT!!!! This year has a lot of potential. Suck that one Goog.
You must have a good airport hub, my AE can't do any of these things. Routers don't generally come with the power to run 1080p movies let alone the video output or the software. Please send me link to where you got yours
*Clap sarcastically*
This is just typical Apple though. They're milling down the product to reduce production costs and to unify the OS between the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad and now
TV. The prospective product is, under no uncertain terms, just an Airport Hub that can stream video instead of just music. Yet Apple will market this 'original' product as if its the new Messiah with an unprecedented use of lexis such as 'magical', 'easy', 'beautiful', and people buy in to it. The question is, why would anyone want to pay upwards of $99 for this when:
A] Many products already offer streaming - most commonly, PS3, Xbox 360 etc... Some new TV's also offer Wi-Fi streaming.
B] It just another box sitting under your TV, only this one would have even less purpose than the others.
C] If you have a poor internet bandwidth, the already compressed video is just going to lag.
The product is only going to benefit those who would rather not us the Cloud-based service and would just stream for their Mac. Though why anyone would actually want to buy films from iTunes is beyond me... The Hi-Def titles are no where near the same quality as physical copies.
Sorry, but I'm not sold on this one.
agree - as nice as the $99 price point sounds, i have 3 appleTVs in my home to be used running Boxee to serve media from my windows home server. i rarely actually use the appleTV OS except for some photo slideshows and maybe a few podcasts. i, too, would need to see the device play other codecs/formats in order for me to buy more than one. i would have to get one to try it out and $99 is nothing.
*Clap sarcastically*
This is just typical Apple though. They're milling down the product to reduce production costs and to unify the OS between the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad and now
The question is, why would anyone want to pay upwards of $99 for this when:
A] Many products already offer streaming - most commonly, PS3, Xbox 360 etc... Some new TV's also offer Wi-Fi streaming.
B] It just another box sitting under your TV, only this one would have even less purpose than the others.
C] If you have a poor internet bandwidth, the already compressed video is just going to lag.
The product is only going to benefit those who would rather not us the Cloud-based service and would just stream for their Mac. Though why anyone would actually want to buy films from iTunes is beyond me... The Hi-Def titles are no where near the same quality as physical copies.
Sorry, but I'm not sold on this one.
1) who said it had to stream from the internet it can also stream for you computer,
2) i buy all my movies and tv shows off ATV. that way i don't ever lose my paid copy and it easily can be put on my iPad and iPhone for on the go and when I buy (decently
HD) movies I can watch it in seconds I don't have to go to the store ever.Just as digital Music took off, Digital Movies and TV Shows will
and just as before with the iPod Apple took the digital Music market. they also will take the Digital Movie market the with Apple TV
And who said that Apple only targets the younger generation. My Dad does not have a 360 or PS3 Sitting at his house. and to him $99 to stream movie sounds far better that the $250 for a 360 and yes for my Dad it will be Easier to set up and use than any other method out there so far. So for Apple to sell it saying that its Easy to use and Magical and Beautiful would be correct. They have every right to say these things. They do make products for more people other than just you.
I know it can be hard for some of you to adapt to new tec. Some people still think CD are better for Music. Doesn't mean they are right
You have to keep in mind that this is a *developer* conference, so ATV and iTunes cloud services are unlikely. if ATV uses the iPhone OS, however, and developers can update their Apps to support it, then I could see it happening.
Although sort of off topic, my guesses:
1. New iPhone released, available immediately or within the week. Rehash of iPhone OS 4 information, demo of smaller new features such as the rotation lock
2. Mobile Me is free, tied with your iTunes account. Paid options for Email + iDisk. Those paid options are free for 3 years with new iDevice/Mac purchase, $49/year otherwise.
3. Safari 5 with plugin support for developers, approval process similar to iPhone.
4. iPad OS 4 Preview: I think you might be right about this. Apple will want developers to get their iPad apps ready for OS 4. Expect some iPad-only features demoed, like Accounts support.
That's it. I don't think we will see 10.7, but if we do, expect it to draw heavily from the iPhone (just look at the redesigned MobileMe mail for an example.)
If the next Mac Pro is substantial (i.e not a speed bump, but a redesign) then we'll see it mentioned during the keynote. But it won't be shipping till July.
Gee, I was looking into the Google TV. If Apple does set the price at $99, boy I'm sold! My current TV has lots of content on there and now days, I stream stuff that I want to keep on my external hard drive from my computer. For cloud-based streaming, is there a yearly fee? Well anyway, if they do allow an external HD to be paired with it, thats even better. Wow if they do bump up the specs to 1080p and their movies are little cheaper than buying blu-ray discs, then I'm sold there too. Maybe I'll get both since I have 3 TVs in my house and one apple tv so far...
TV has lots of content on there and now days, I stream stuff that I want to keep on my external hard drive from my computer. For cloud-based streaming, is there a yearly fee? Well anyway, if they do allow an external HD to be paired with it, thats even better. Wow if they do bump up the specs to 1080p and their movies are little cheaper than buying blu-ray discs, then I'm sold there too. Maybe I'll get both since I have 3 TVs in my house and one apple tv so far...
I know it can be hard for some of you to adapt to new tec. Some people still think CD are better for Music. Doesn't mean they are right
we're getting there but it's not a fair comparison at this point. right now, blu-ray:digital video downloads is not the same as cd:digital music downloads.
I know, that was more of a anger comment. I hate when people bash Apple because they don't make things specifically for them. lol they do look to target the general market
yes there are some movies I still buy on Blu-Ray but 90% of them the 720 that ATV currently gives doesn't phase me one bit.
here's to Apple to adding 1080p to the iTunes Store
No, it's quite brilliant. In fact, how about $49? Point is, the $ to be made isn't in the equipment, it's in the service. Get as many iPods into the public's hands as possible, and you sell more songs and videos. More iPhones, you get that + app store revenue. The potential Jobs sees in Apple TV is the subscription service that will inevitably come with it. It could eventually be the new cable / sat service, or at least a major alternative. He needs units in service to better negotiate with content providers (market share). It looks like Apple is moving from "hobby" to a real player now. Look out.
I don't play games, so I don't want to pay for a gaming console. My TV right now does not stream anything, so I need a new box. In any case, those boxes either stream as pay per view, which gets fairly expensive if used regularly or they stream from Netflix that does not have a very good selection. Right now AppleTV does only the first kind, renting iTunes movies. It should at least add Netflix, but even then it is not going to be revolutionary.
iTunes streaming is somebody's wishlist, I doubt it is going to happen anytime soon or at an affordable price.
Will it still be able to rent movies (no iPhone does that to my knowledge or is that a new feature for iPhone 4.0 as well?). The only thing I store locally on my Apple TV units are photos. Everything else is streamed from my PowerMac server with dual 1.5TB hard drives so it wouldn't be a huge deal in that regard, but I wouldn't get too excited by this change since the lack of ports and hard drive space on it likely means that you won't be able to easily hack it to run XBMC anymore and I don't see Apple offering support for things like MKV or AVI so the 1080p feature will pretty much be worthless unless you are repacking your own H264 movies.
Apple has already proven it is incapable of securing even 720p HD movies to BUY, let alone 1080P ones. The movie studios simply will not play ball with Apple in this regard and so what good is 1080P on a $99 device if you cannot get content except possibly to rent? Meanwhile, will Apple rentals go to 1080P and will that leave all prior Apple TV users in the dust in terms of HD rentals or will they go to the bother of maintaining TWO sets of movie rentals? Or will they continue to rent 720P for now and leave 1080P for some new movie sale line we don't know about? Something just sounds "off" here. I would imagine if it can run iPhone apps, they would want to provide some kind of game controller setup so it could be used to play (probably iPad level) games. I don't know how they could make that easily work given gaming on the iPhone/iPad is based on a touchscreen and that is exactly what is MISSING on this proposed Apple TV yet ignoring its potential a game device isn't smart either (and you shouldn't have to depend on already owning an iPhone or iPad Touch to get that functionality). I suppose a controller could be made that has the same movements and possibly even a dedicated button (that would be nice over touching glass all the time which is hard on the fingers/thumbs when gaming for a long period).
Apple has already proven it is incapable of securing even 720p HD movies to BUY, let alone 1080P ones. The movie studios simply will not play ball with Apple in this regard and so what good is 1080P on a $99 device if you cannot get content except possibly to rent? Meanwhile, will Apple rentals go to 1080P and will that leave all prior Apple TV users in the dust in terms of HD rentals or will they go to the bother of maintaining TWO sets of movie rentals? Or will they continue to rent 720P for now and leave 1080P for some new movie sale line we don't know about? Something just sounds "off" here. I would imagine if it can run iPhone apps, they would want to provide some kind of game controller setup so it could be used to play (probably iPad level) games. I don't know how they could make that easily work given gaming on the iPhone/iPad is based on a touchscreen and that is exactly what is MISSING on this proposed Apple TV yet ignoring its potential a game device isn't smart either (and you shouldn't have to depend on already owning an iPhone or iPad Touch to get that functionality). I suppose a controller could be made that has the same movements and possibly even a dedicated button (that would be nice over touching glass all the time which is hard on the fingers/thumbs when gaming for a long period).
Market cap on TIVO is $1B.That would be sweet. Apple buys TiVo or Elgato and rolls it into AppleTV. Plus make the USB port able to take an external for storage and I will be in heaven!
Ok, so you want the ATV to play a file format you don't currently use? For what purpose?
So, Apple is pushing to get you TV Episodes at just $.99 each and you would own them...and you are asking for a DVR to record? What are you planning on recording the commercials
and if your not planning on purchasing the TV Shows then just watch them on something like ABC App and instead of Fast Forwarding past recorded commercials just Mute past the One.
yea i know thats y i put the ( ) for my itunes prediction. i do think ipad beta will release along with the new iTV beta if true it will run os 4. note im now prediction a new name iTV from apple tv. i also like ur prediction of mobileme being free. but ill say contacs, cal , and bookmark syncing will be free. while paid will be for mail+idisk+ability to continue with iweb pages and the gallery all for 59 bux..
oh and also we will see a preview of 10.7
Presumably the point is the ATV represents another outlet for what will eventually be constant access to your media library no matter where you are via iTunes. The ATV represents just one device to access the iTunes cloud. My guess the cloud will start with music only then include video down the line.
+1
The idea of apple doing a dvr seems just ridiculous to me.
Cable/Sat companies practically give these away to subscribers now.
And if you want another option Tivo is a fine choice (I have 2); but Tivo has yet to post a profit and they even charge monthly fees.
I just don't see Apple getting into this market, and playing the whole cablecard game and dealing with the tech-support required to work with all those guides, etc.
Just seems stupid.
Remember Disney talking a few months back about the cloud-content ideas?
Buy the movie once, access it from anywhere?
This sounds like it could be the beginning of that.
And it's an added incentive to buying content versus stealing. Now you don't have to worry about storing/converting for devices/backing up/physical media/etc.
Interesting...
Buy the movie once, access it from anywhere?
This sounds like it could be the beginning of that.
And it's an added incentive to buying content versus stealing. Now you don't have to worry about storing/converting for devices/backing up/physical media/etc.
Interesting...
The AppleTV was called iTV originally, but they had to change the name because of the iTV channel. So, not going to happen.
Doubt it. There are few sessions on Mac OS X and the marketing suggests this is clearly going to be the "iPhone OS" conference. Would love to be wrong, though. Mac OS X is the reason I love Apple; everything else is periphery.
The AppleTV was called iTV originally, but they had to change the name because of the iTV channel. So, not going to happen.
Doubt it. There are few sessions on Mac OS X and the marketing suggests this is clearly going to be the "iPhone OS" conference. Would love to be wrong, though. Mac OS X is the reason I love Apple; everything else is periphery.
ahh i see so no iTV sounded good to me. as for the 10.7 deal if your right I will acknowledge it. and Mac OS X is the same
reason why i like apple as well
edit: i hope the new safari is super fast and same goes for mobile safari also
I won't buy this unless it can play the DVD and music collection I have sitting on my server. It's useless otherwise.
If it can play my media, but only with directly attached storage, it's still useless. Pushing cloud storage while demanding attached storage on the local network screams "fail" to me.
If it can play my media, but only with directly attached storage, it's still useless. Pushing cloud storage while demanding attached storage on the local network screams "fail" to me.
The AppleTV was called iTV originally, but they had to change the name because of the iTV channel. So, not going to happen.
Doubt it. There are few sessions on Mac OS X and the marketing suggests this is clearly going to be the "iPhone OS" conference. Would love to be wrong, though. Mac OS X is the reason I love Apple; everything else is periphery.
The "marketing" suggests WWDC is about apps not the iPhone.
