Apple Reportedly Set to Acquire Israeli 3D Body Sensing Firm PrimeSense [Updated]


Solomani

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I don't have a problem with women over 30 who are gamers. Who cares? If they game, then good for them. And one more thing, I've been gaming since 1981.
Nothing wrong at all with adult female gamers. Many computer nerds here (which is probably over 80% of the MacRumors veterans, including the anti-walled-garden Android trolls) have been electronic gamers at one time or another.

Marrying someone who is also a gamer (be it PC/Mac gaming, console gaming, online MMO gaming, RPGs) is a holy grail for many. And naturally, the gaming couple will end up raising their kids to become gamers too. The relationship and the marriage has a far better chance of sticking when the two of you absolutely love the same hobby.
 

bobenhaus

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So does this mean Microsoft will have to pay Apple royalties for Kinect? If so, then that is gonna hurt haha! :eek:
You should read the news more often. MS uses its own technology.

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I'm guessing the one final legal issue that's delaying the deal is working out a license with Microsoft. Why Microsoft didn't buy them I have no idea. They probably thought they had a perpetual license the terms of which are now being tested.
MS bought another comapny similar to Primesense thats why.
 

Pilgrim1099

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Nothing wrong at all with adult female gamers. Many computer nerds here (which is probably over 80% of the MacRumors veterans, including the anti-walled-garden Android trolls) have been electronic gamers at one time or another.

Marrying someone who is also a gamer (be it PC/Mac gaming, console gaming, online MMO gaming, RPGs) is a holy grail for many. And naturally, the gaming couple will end up raising their kids to become gamers too. The relationship and the marriage has a far better chance of sticking when the two of you absolutely love the same hobby.
Agreed! I met a girl in her mid 20s who's kind of a gamer and we became friends (and we still are). It's not common these days but it's definitely a nice bonus.

But I'm still gaming and did some storyboards and game feedback for a friend who was a game Dev on the side. Great fun.
 

iambasil

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Typically US journalists report the nationality of small foreign companies that are purchased by major US companies. It's just that you only notice it when the acquired company is Israeli. Maybe you have a bug up about Israel? This seems common among Europeans.
No idea where that came from. Way off the mark dude. You might be interested in travelling a little.
 

AppleMark

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I just bought a samsung 8000 series TV with motion control.....And the first thing I did when I turned it on was shut motion control off, and disable the camera. I got the TV strictly based on picture quality. And it has one of the best pictures out there (sub 4k). It also has a million bells and whistles I will NEVER use (apps, browser, etc). I buy a TV based on picture quality. That's it. Everything else is a waste of time & space. And when apple comes out with a TV, you better believe it's gonna have a bad a$$ picture. They are not going to put out some gimicky TV with a ton of meaningless features. It's gonna have a beautiful design & a beautiful picture 1st. Don't worry about things like motion control, etc. Because if they do incorporate features like that, they will work unlike anything we are currently used to.
Yes, I totally agree with most of what you are saying.

I actually bought the Samsung at the time to replace my lounge plasma TV which finally gave up after 11 years, as all my research pointed to the fact that it was the best LED set for picture quality. It was also my first serious unit which was not a Plasma. Like you, I would probably have been prepared to ignore the gimmicks and App's (as with my current Panasonic, I have never used them...).

However my unit also suffered from ghosting and light leakage which was unforgivable. The set was really well designed apart from the flimsy plastic camera housing, which I was not sure about even when I decided to buy it.

So with all of that going on, I was not prepared to give it a second chance. Shame.

I went back to Panasonic for the Plasma, as for me those sets are unbeatable for design and picture quality. Apart from my KRP600A for dedicated viewing that is....

I do not think Apple making a great set is a forgone conclusion. Not at least with anybody who actually appreciates picture quality over style and gimmicks.

I have no doubts that the build quality and design will be the finest along with the interface, but picture? It will depend who helps them with the screen and processing.

It will not matter mind you, as lets be honest. Apple are going to be able to sell out on the units before many of it's buyers will even see (and will not even care about) the picture quality...
 

AZREOSpecialist

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All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple television, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell TVs....not to mention the fact that selling large televisions is not like selling phones, tablets, and computers. The average consumer won't buy a new tv on the same upgrade cycle as a phone. I think a fully featured set top box seems more logical.
I agree. It never made sense to me that Apple would make a TV, a set top box sounds much better. You can use a box with any TV. If I want an 80" "Apple" TV, I can have one. Not so if I have to buy an Apple branded set.
 

osaga

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Interesting theory....
Sadly, you lost me completely when you portrayed it incorrectly as fact.
it is pompous & outright untruthful when you have NOT THE SLIGHTEST IDEA of Apple's plans to make a statement like "This buy is related to USER IDENTIFICATION", making it sound like you know (which you do not). Perhaps "I believe this buy is related to USER IDENTIFICATION" or "It would make sense to me if this buy is related to USER IDENTIFICATION" would be slightly less disingenuous & misleading??
Here- I will provide an example:
In my opinion, if all Apple wanted was profiles.... it would make MUCH more sense to have pictures of family members that you could select via remote.. especially considering the fact that often multiple family members are in front of the tv at once.... How does your hypothetical "face recognizer" know which profile to load? I personally think that Apple is starting to develop some more sophisticated body motion controls to couple with their current multitouch gestures. I suppose we will see in the upcoming year.
Thanks for the chuckle. Shouldn't such an obviously inappropriate exclamation of fact also convey to most people a level of sarcasm? Your point is noted, I'll be more careful.

The kinect tech looks to be surprisingly good at recognizing individuals. So much so that I could see Apple wanting the technology for that purpose initially. So users wouldn't have to select a profile on screen and enter a password. Apple could issue an API for developers to take advantage of gaming, fitness, and other useful aspects of the 3d imaging sensors.

But as a UI control device? Even if the 3d sensors are accurate enough to detect a persons finger movements, I doubt it would be comfortable, convenient, or very snappy. How would you click on things? That being said, there was a rumor about an "iRing" control device for your finger. So maybe there is more to it.

People on this forum shy away from making assumptions, or even guesses as to what the future of tech will look like, but to me it's the most interesting aspect of a rumor. I wish it was discussed more.
 

whorlycares

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Thanks for the chuckle. Shouldn't such an obviously inappropriate exclamation of fact also convey to most people a level of sarcasm? Your point is noted, I'll be more careful.

The kinect tech looks to be surprisingly good at recognizing individuals. So much so that I could see Apple wanting the technology for that purpose initially. So users wouldn't have to select a profile on screen and enter a password. Apple could issue an API for developers to take advantage of gaming, fitness, and other useful aspects of the 3d imaging sensors.

But as a UI control device? Even if the 3d sensors are accurate enough to detect a persons finger movements, I doubt it would be comfortable, convenient, or very snappy. How would you click on things? That being said, there was a rumor about an "iRing" control device for your finger. So maybe there is more to it.

People on this forum shy away from making assumptions, or even guesses as to what the future of tech will look like, but to me it's the most interesting aspect of a rumor. I wish it was discussed more.
Ok... I got a wild guess. =)
Maybe... you'll be able to use iOS devices with the new M7 chip as controllers. After all... it's supposed to help detect much finer movements, yeah? And pass data to other devices..! Can you imagine how cool it would be to be on your IMDB app reading movie reviews, then flick one of the films at your TV to start it playing. Or... maybe Apple's TV will use an embedded iBeacon to keep track of family member's proximity & pass data/prefs back & forth. Lol, I'm not sure how the Kinect tech fits into this fantasy, but it would be cool to see these three technologies augment each other in some way...
 

osaga

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Ok... I got a wild guess. =)
Maybe... you'll be able to use iOS devices with the new M7 chip as controllers. After all... it's supposed to help detect much finer movements, yeah? And pass data to other devices..! Can you imagine how cool it would be to be on your IMDB app reading movie reviews, then flick one of the films at your TV to start it playing. Or... maybe Apple's TV will use an embedded iBeacon to keep track of family member's proximity & pass data/prefs back & forth. Lol, I'm not sure how the Kinect tech fits into this fantasy, but it would be cool to see these three technologies augment each other in some way...
I like this. IMHO the only problem with an ios device doubling as a tv remote, is that you'd be looking back and forth between the two screens, which seems awkward. But I agree ios devices interacting with each other in magical ways is exciting to think about... View your living room at anytime w/facetime? (nannycam, see what your dog is up to etc.)

So we have....
1. pure gesture control, no remote. (needs to be line of sight, how do you click, potentially glitchy, arm/hand fatigue)
2. gesture control with iRing. (better tracking with a ring?)
3. ios device as a remote. (distracting to look back and fourth between two screens)
4. wireless keyboard w/trackpad. (not magic enough for apple, cumbersome)
5. a remote with a touch screen you manipulate w/thumb and follow a cursor on the screen. Also features a virtual keyboard.
6. a remote with an accelerometer type sensor that you whip around and follow a cursor on the screen.
7. other things not on this list, because this is pure speculation.


My money is on #5, I'm about 12% positive.
 
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whorlycares

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I like this. IMHO the only problem with an ios device doubling as a tv remote, is that you'd be looking back and forth between the two screens, which seems awkward. But I agree ios devices interacting with each other in magical ways is exciting to think about... View your living room at anytime w/facetime? (nannycam, see what your dog is up to etc.)

So we have....
1. pure gesture control, no remote. (needs to be line of sight, how do you click, potentially glitchy, arm/hand fatigue)
2. gesture control with iRing. (better tracking with a ring?)
3. ios device as a remote. (distracting to look back and fourth between two screens)
4. wireless keyboard w/trackpad. (not magic enough for apple, cumbersome)
5. a remote with a touch screen you manipulate w/thumb and follow a cursor on the screen. Also features a virtual keyboard.
6. a remote with an accelerometer type sensor that you whip around and follow a cursor on the screen.
7. other things not on this list, because this is pure speculation.


My money is on #5, I'm about 12% positive.
Replace "ring" with watch?????! ;0)
 

redmotion

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I can't help thinking that rather than Apple adding a touch display for future Macbook Pro iterations, that they intend to skip straight to gestural controls.

I expect to see iPads, iPhones, Macbooks, iMacs, the new Apple Television - basically everything they do that has a camera (or potential to have a camera) in the next iterations to start reading your emotions, facial expressions, knowing where you're looking, and reading you hand gestures to control whats on screen like a leap motion.

Apple hate the stylus. There is no way they will have gestures requiring extra wearable hardware.

No, expect the interfaces on screen to change to work perfectly with gestural, tracked input. Expect a cursor or point of conection on the screen to be tracked via your eye.

This tech is almost here.

Face it, the "desktop" as a UI is ancient. I give it less than 10 years before it is completely gone. Even major tech heads will eventually find themselves unable to move to the latest technology and will go out to pasture, looking on while their 3 year old kid puts them to shame!! We will all have our VHS player moment one day.

Get ready to hug your old-fashioned desktop GUI, trackpads and mice like the old fogeys that you are! :D
 

Tech198

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Noooo..

An Apple Televistion with a Kenict-like ??

I really thiyght Apple was different. Isn't that the slogan??

But in reality, Apple just has to do what everyone else is doing.... :p

(Sorry Apple, you've just lost my vote.)

Looks like "Walk like an Egyptian
 

cwwilson

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All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple television, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell TVs....
All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple cell phone, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell phones....


All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple mp3 player, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell mp3s....


All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple computer, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell computers....
 

lewisd25

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All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple cell phone, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell phones....


All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple mp3 player, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell mp3s....


All the pieces seem to be falling into place for an Apple computer, but I just don't see it happening. Apple doesn't have the retail structure to sell computers....
Selling small devices is easy. Selling televisions is a completely different story.
 

thaifood

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Really?

I'm not judging who should, just who is more likely to.

I really doubt that many 30+ year old white yuppie women are playing video games with their kids. They're more likely telling their kids to turn the system off and go do something else.

And the screenshot of that video game didn't look educational.
Bonding and education are not the same thing. And again, you are playing the broad stereotype card on how a white mother should act and parent their own children.