Mmm... yet as they say, XR is priced in the middle between iPhone 8 and 8+ price and the XS had the same prices of X...where are these prices increases? And the stock is already up 6%.
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Apple Reports 1Q 2019 Results: Nearly $20B Profit on $84.3B Revenue, Second-Best Quarter Ever Despite Earnings Warning
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Mmm... yet as they say, XR is priced in the middle between iPhone 8 and 8+ price and the XS had the same prices of X...where are these prices increases? And the stock is already up 6%.
Clearly there are many here that don’t fully understand the company and all their ambitions (like me), but the services number is exciting. They have 1.4B active devices, with 360,000M subscribers to their own and third party services. Based on revenue, this is $30 per subscriber. Think about the potential.
Always funny to see the "Apple-hater"-haters make their broad generalizations and straw-men arguments.(Not picking on you here, pal. Just using your post as an example; hope you don't mind.)
A word to the not-so-wise: Some of your so-called "Apple-haters" are actually people who have stuck with the company for decades, and are disappointed in product quality, product offerings, and the general direction Apple may appear to be headed. Like a family-member or friend who speaks the hard truth when someone needs to hear it, many who voice dissent actually care more than the sycophants who prefer to think everything is rosy. (And this sentiment applies to more than just a particular computer company...)
IMHO they just vent their frustration of being priced out of some products making up silly and imaginative "market analysis" that regularly end up being wrong.
A lot of people upgrade out of desire rather then any particular feature need. The desire isn’t there at these new price points.
Nice to see that Mac sales are still ahead of iPad. Hope this helps Apple to understand the importance of Mac line-up.
Humble opinion, I should hope. There's more to it than that, but your comment seems to imply a tinge of moral superiority because you have more free cash floating about...?
I hope I'm wrong, because although it's only one of the many reasons Apple customers can find issue with Apple, you can be damned sure people have a right to be frustrated, especially if they've already invested money into said ecosystem (movies, music, apps, games) which can't be used elsewhere.Again, I hope I'm misreading your attitude in this regard.
More expensive, maybe, but not a grand expensive! They need to realise their market, and it's not people that will continue to pay a grand every year or 2 for a phone.
All I'm saying is iPhone sales are dropping, but it's services are no where near enough to make up for that 62%.
They have a very strange attitude towards the Mac, you need a Mac to make an app for iOS, yet they don't promote this one bit..
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I thought they had a 'hold' on Apple stock? We shall find out over the month.
Stock always goes up after earnings reports from what I've seen. The XS is the same grand the X cost, that's the price increase as I stated, why would it increase further when they only did a spec bump? They hardly redesigned it. The XR is priced as you claim, but it's still not selling, apparently...
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Normal stock? It’s never traded normal that I can remember. Lots of people really despise Apple and I think it’s crazy.
Maybe with the iPhone, the iPad I'm not so sure because they did increase it's price a lot with the new Pro, bend and all..
With the Mac no, I think it's more of a case of people waiting for a Mac that's worth buying, you've got streams of people buying old cheese grater Mac Pro's because they can upgrade them and Apple doesn't offer anything else currently. That's not some poor person priced out of Apple hardware, that's a frustrated user fed up wit Apple not caring about them selling 5 year old tech at sky high prices! Unless they want a iMac Pro which not everyone does.
Go and visit the Mac Pro forum on here, see if the people complaining consider themselves priced out of the Apple market..
You should also consider many don't see any 'value' in spending a grand on a new iPhone, lots of people are happy with the 7, 8, Plus they already have and will upgrade at some point, but considering the price increase they don't consider it worth it, and these are people from ALL walks of life, poor to rich. Last year saw three brand new iPhone designs, and we've been told their sales have slumped. And now we have offers left and right from Apple fro you to buy them, that's not people complaining and being too poor to buy Apple, that's people seeing little value for the high prices being charged.
Plus you have battery gate.. so I suspect that pus a few people off give a grand to Apple.
Probably due to them bringing the Mac mini and MacBook Air into the 21st Century.
Let me rephrase maybe it will be a stock that goes up in addition to down.
$50-60 a month out of the window every month isn't that cheap. Sure, it's "only" 2% of my rent, but it's expensive for many people. I wasn't talking about Silicon Valley engineers like me, but the average folks. Even Tim Cook agrees that "price is a factor", using his words. More affordable models are needed, especially in some other countries. Consider that the Android world has cheaper alternatives that do the job well enough.
I went from the 6S Plus to the XS Max. The 6S Plus was actually lighter in weight. The speed difference isn't that noticeable day to day. The edge-to-edge screen is amazing, but sort of a luxury at this price. I upgraded because I got tired of the inch thick chin and forehead. Not everyone can throw around $2 a day for 2 years just because it's cool.
> Tim Cook: Finally, original content, where we will participate in the original content world. We've signed a multi-year partnership with Oprah.
I laughed when he said that.
Their company runs on them.
It is not Apple's intention to make people upgrade every year. I am pretty sure this statement is about f.ex. iPhone renewal time went from 35 months to 38 months.
Yes, the average has been close to 3 years for some time now.
I'm more impressed with how few people care about iPads. They're as dead as Macs!
In Eastern Europe, a lot of people tend to get a prepaid package. They only pay what they use. And they mostly use wifi. Using it to stream music while driving, very much unheard of. Unless you have a company, in which case you write it all off as expense. You can usually get a subscription much cheaper than the phone. Also there's no 0% APR in most countries. The dollar a day 0% loan package that we get in the US is not available everywhere.
All time quarterly record for Mac if I read the numbers correctly. 9% up YoY.
So Apple seems to do fine without advertising.
Especially when revenues came below their own lowered guidance.
FYI, Apple in Q1 2018 sold 77.3 million iPhones, which would mean Apple sold 11.4 million fewer iPhones in Q1 2019 if Strategy Analytics' estimates are correct, marking a 15 percent decline in sales year-over-year.
Calculating a monthly cost in order to justify the price is a bit deceptive. Consider that $5000 iMac Pro is "only" $3.47 a day for 4 years. That's like a coffee a day! But in reality, a $5000 computer is very expensive. You could break down the lease of a Mercedes as "only" $16.66 a day. But many people make $10 an hour.
They dont give numbers do they so cant say for sure but likely they sold more iPads but Macs will account for a greater portion of revenue on smaller unit sales. That was certainly the case in Q4 2018, iirc they made nearly double the revenue on half the units sold for Macs v iPad
Yet people on here will still tell you Apple shouldn't care about it at all and the iPad is the future.
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See above. Funny thing is if they put as much effort into the Mac as they do the iPad it would probably be a significantly bigger business for them.
This entire post was so completely divorced from an understanding of financial markets, equity pricing, and corporate earnings that I don’t even know where to begin.
The real Odo would just do his trademark “humph” and walk away.
Just to cherry pick one thing, “hold” means just that. Hold. Not sell. Hold. Not that analyst opinions are terribly diagnostic to begin with.
What about the 38% that is not iPhone?
How many billions of dollars is that 38% that is not iPhone revenues? It’s still pretty good right? Oh wait, what does “pretty good” mean? Compare the 38% that is not iPhone to any other company and see if you can tell that Apple is many gigantic successful companies rolled into one. Sorry I’m not citing references and examples for you, but I’m hoping you and any others can check for themselves and see the obvious.