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Apple Reports 1Q 2023 Results: $30.0B Profit on $117.2B Revenue Amid 'Challenging Environment'
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Why? Is Apple supposed to block google? Does anything change if www dot google dot com is typed in a browser. Is Apple giving up information or is the user? If Bing is chosen as the default, Bing is the paragon of a model of privacy where no information is collected or stored. /syay scammy false advertising
He asked valid questions. The businesses Apple is in have a demonstrably better data security built in. They collect orders of magnitude less data than the other Tech companies because their business model doesn’t rely on advertising.You would honestly defend anything Apple did wouldn't you
But they don’t run a search engine (yet). So should they block Google from their platform (which would immediately result in actual antitrust action instead of the years long nonsense going on right now)?
No they don't have to block sites on the open web they don't have to accept huge sums of money to present them as a default setting on their devices either whilst marketing them as privacy focussed.
DuckDuckGo is a search option on iOS, it is much more privacy focussed that Google why isn't that the default?
Apple don't collect the data but they are happy to share the profits with those that do.
Exactly this! That's why the world is not normal anymore. The stock market is an ill conceived concept. The whole system is not normal.
While Google search is getting worse over time (because it’s an business and not a knowledge aggregator), the fact remains it’s how most people even *think* about “search” in the first place. Google is literally the verb used in lieu of “search the internet”. So it makes sense that it’s the default (and obviously the fat check that comes with it).
But think about this from the standpoint of a standard consumer, you want me to shell out $1K for a phone and it doesn’t even search the way the entire rest of civilization does?
That can’t be happening MacBook pros where flying off the shelves after ugly design, fatter, with a notch, cheap keyboard, no Touch Bar and legacy ports was released.
They just shouldn't pretend that their devices are private in any way.
What this basically amounts to is Google paying Apple to stay out of the search business and cements Googles monopoly position in search.
But they are. Just this week we got a slew of “Apple is terrible” stories regarding Activation Lock being the bane of the secondary market.
The FBI continues to try to force Apple to have a back door in their systems.
FULL E2E encryption is now available (finally) in iCloud.
And again the biggest factor here: Apple is the only Big Tech company whose *business model* doesn’t almost completely rely on data gathering. You may scoff at that notion, but it makes a real world difference in their business incentives.
I get that you’ve got a bone to pick, but you’re not doing yourself any favors in credibility by purposely ignoring the steps Apple does take that are easily available for anyone to see.
"doesn't almost completely' interesting qualifier.
They take steps to hobble third parties collecting data yes, when they aren't paying them a fee.
They’ve got an advertising business, which I hate, but again comparatively it’s a blip in their business revenues.
Do you understand what I’m saying? You can hate aspects of what company X or Y is doing, and I certainly do when it comes to the tax cheat (sorry, “tax avoider”) that Apple is, but when discussing privacy Apple is demonstrably better than the rest. To pretend that isn’t the case is just having a grudge.
They are better than the rest, I don't think their claims on privacy stack up though really.
That’s fine, but meaningless to everyone here unless you can provide specific qualms.
I personally hate that they’re gearing up their Ad platform (frankly I wish they didn’t have it at all).
Now, we could get into their participation in PRISM (or whatever the modern equivalent may be), but to be so insistent without elaboration or facts just makes your posts come off as complaining into the ether.
We can elevate the discourse online if we try to have a substantive conversation, but that requires bringing some substance.
I’m not trying to belittle it demean you, I just think we can all do our part to keep things sane online.
Instead of discussing the post to determine how the internet changes when you select Bing vs Good, you insult the poster. Way to go champ.You would honestly defend anything Apple did wouldn't you
It's also possible that people are holding to their apple devices longer (which is not a bad thing in itself; it shows that contrary to claims of forced obsolescent, Apple hardware does last longer and is supported longer).
I am also thinking that in light of people going longer in between upgrades, it may no longer be meaningful to look at device sales by quarter, because purchases become more spread out. Instead, we need to see it across the entire year. For instance, Mac sales could be down now, but pick up in the next quarter. It doesn't mean anything, just that the majority of people are opting to upgrade then and not now.
So, compared to the previous ”outlier” years (where Mac sales were abnormally high) it seems like a drop. But, in reality, it’s just going back to normal which is somewhere over 20 million Macs a year. That’s were Apple’s been for awhile as far as the Mac is concerned.
It’s a lot more like “business as usual” than “the sky is falling”.
Wow. Too bad more earnings means the "monopoly" haters are coming.
"You made too much money...need to break you up"
"You made too much money...need to break you up"
You made too much, not by actively trying to take out your competition by purchasing them or pressuring vendors not to do business with them, but by making things that your millions of customers want to pay enough for you to make a 20 to 30% profit on!
I think they reported margins slightly decreased at 43%. Any business/finance majors, correct me if I am wrong.
Impressive numbers by Apple. If even Apple is having issues that doesn’t bode well for the state of the economy or the rest of the tech sector.
This quote from Tim pisses me off...
Translation: we can keep putting prices up and the idiots will keep paying! lol! Makes me want to start thinking about alternatives to the Apple walled garden (and I say this as someone who's been fully into iPhones/iOS since the first phone).
Translation: we can keep putting prices up and the idiots will keep paying! lol! Makes me want to start thinking about alternatives to the Apple walled garden (and I say this as someone who's been fully into iPhones/iOS since the first phone).