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I wonder if the richest company in America can bring jobs back to America? But I guess Apple thinks the American work force is not good enough knowing that price is not the problem.

That's a pretty vague and unsupported statement. Apple has created tens of thousands of US jobs. How many are you expecting?
 
I know and I understand. I simply want to know: Would you prefer if Apple charged 10% less and made only a 20% instead of a 30% profit margin.

Go back to school and study more history. This experiment has been tried. Entire countries tried to set prices to some fair value that the masses preferred, and ended up destroying their economies, causing food shortages and lowering life expectancies. No, I don't want to die or end up in a gulag for a 10% lower price on iPads this year.
 
Now that's totally impressive by any means, under the prevailing economical situation.
 
I understand (also referring to LTD) that they have a responsibility to shareholders to maximize profits. I am just asking a simple yes or no question.
I just cannot understand how people can curse some companies for making high profits (oil companies) yet praise others.

LTD, I was simply saying that the money that goes to Apple is doing almost nothing for the US economy, half of it is out of country and the rest sits in banks. If some of the money was being spent at small businesses would that be better? (I'm just saying that the money that apple makes does very little for the economy--at least for the moment)

Question: Would you prefer if Apple charged 10% less and made only a 20% instead of a 30% profit margin.

In your opinion, yes or no.

With regards to your question about cursing some companies, it's because of negative externalities that those companies don't bear.
 
If you're watching the State of the Union - it's very interesting. What Obama just laid out re: taxes, outsourcing and manufacturing could and would GREATLY affect companies like Apple.
 
If you're watching the State of the Union - it's very interesting. What Obama just laid out re: taxes, outsourcing and manufacturing could and would GREATLY affect companies like Apple.

Obama doesn't make any laws. What he says in the state of the union matters not one bit.
 
All this hype about the iPhone 5 -- and then they release the 4S, and "everyone and their dog" has gotta get one for Christmas anyways, cause it is is the "new" iPhone, even if you just got an iPhone 4 two months ago.

You really think that's what happened?:rolleyes:
 
Obama doesn't make any laws. What he says in the state of the union matters not one bit.

Yes. Thank you. I'm well aware of how the government in the US works. However he's appealing to congress and the senate to put action plans together that he would sign.

To say what he says in the state of the union doesn't matter "not one bit" is a bit hyperbole.
 
Yes. Thank you. I'm well aware of how the government in the US works. However he's appealing to congress and the senate to put action plans together that he would sign.

To say what he says in the state of the union doesn't matter "not one bit" is a bit hyperbole.

It doesn't matter one bit. It's a campaign speech. It will cause precisely nothing to occur as a result of the speech. How much less could something matter?
 
I'm certain someone has posted something similar, but I certainly hope that Apple doesn't forget what products have gotten them to this point. Seeing the languishing Mac Pro

MacPro's are waiting upon releases from Intel, that is all.
 
Whatever you say. Really. WHATEVER you say...

Lets hear it - tell us something that will happen as a result of this waste of airwaves that wouldn't have happened otherwise. Besides this conversation. Should be easy for you to come up with something, right?
 
Lets hear it - tell us something that will happen as a result of this waste of airwaves that wouldn't have happened otherwise. Besides this conversation. Should be easy for you to come up with something, right?

No. Because you want to take the thread off topic. And I would prefer not to. The subject was Apple's profits. My comment was about the State of the Union in direct relation to Apple. Now you want to take it off on some tangent. So no thanks.
 
Can you guys keep in mind that most of us don't LIKE the disaster that is PRSI and keep it out of other threads?
 
Obama doesn't make any laws. What he says in the state of the union matters not one bit.

Surely you have to realise that the President can influence Congress, right? What he says often acts as a catalyst for members of his party in Congress to act in a way that correlates to what he's said. That's pretty apparent.

But others are right to point out that his rhetoric regarding the economy very well might have an influence on the actions moving forward for companies like Apple.
 
Wow! And folks were talking how 'huge' of mistakes Apple did that quarter; afterall, they released an iPhone 4s, not 5, they did a minor refresh for Mac, and to top it off, they did not release the iPad 3 in time for holidays 2011 to compete with the rest of tablets!~~

After making all those "mistakes" Apple couldn't have posted better numbers as they sold everything as fast as they could make it...

Meanwhile Microsoft, RIM, Nokia and Google are telling their stockholders how good it's gonna be at the end of 2012 and making excuses for this quarter's bad numbers.

Imagine how this last group would have been pointing to a down economy for their failures if Apple wasn't defying the markets right were they were squatting.
 
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As much as I admire Apple, this will never be enough for them creeps on Wall Street.
IT IS NEVER ENOUGH!
The problem is that Wall Street always wants you to make more money, even if you have to break the company up and change the CEO 15 times in a month. Apple is building all these stupid a** brick and mortar stores just to pump out more crap to people so they can keep hat stock price up. They will soon implode. I hate to say it but it is true.
Enjoy the renaissance while it lasts.

Some people just crack me up! Think whatever you want dude! LOL.

Meanwhile, I'll continue smiling like crazy. I bought 685 shares of AAPL at $80 a little before the iPhone came out. Life is pretty darn good right now!
 
For Apple it's just another day at the office. Good products, highly superior marketing, and big profit margins per hardware unit, all ad up to vibrant growth.
 
yet they do nothing with that money. its currently in limbo. Yes it is good, but the money spent on apple products could have been spent elsewhere, where in would be going back into the economy and not sit in a big black hole (for now).

Apple's products are a luxury item, not a necessity. No one is going hungry or living in the dark because people make discretionary purchases. Right now Apple is struggling to find workspace for their current hires, and soon will be employing a lot of other trades to build the new mothership HQ.

I know and I understand. I simply want to know: Would you prefer if Apple charged 10% less and made only a 20% instead of a 30% profit margin.

Just so you shut up about your little question: I prefer Apple charge the lowest price for their products that still prevents them from outselling their supply chain. Given the current state of backorder, Apple seems to have found that sweet spot of price.

You may be surprised to find out Apple is a for-profit corporation. It is not, and has never been, their goal to give a "good deal" to anyone (if that happens to work out sometimes, so much the better, but it's not a goal). They maximize profits however they can, just like every other company out there. And as a publicly traded company, I do not think their shareholders would take too kindly to any plan that does not maximize profits.

I agree, and maximizing profits means not pricing your product so low that you cannot deliver what you sell.

If anything Apple should actually look at increasing their profit margin just a little bit. It won't hurt demand and make them even more money.

Higher prices will hurt demand, and and could affect profits. That sweet spot where you are making as much money per item as you can...AND selling everything as fast as you make it, is a very difficult number to find. Apple seems to have a knack of finding that number better then most companies I know of.

Apple is in business for it's shareholders. That is the only reason. If they are not maximizing profit and start giving discounts just to be nice the shareholders would rise up and the management would quickly be changed out. Like it or not, that is how big business works.

The only reason to discount one's price is to buy market share. There's a time and place to do that. I think Android phone manufacturers know that Apple can do that and might do that if they could make enough phones to fill the increased demand. Apple has the scale of production to undercut all but Samsung if they wanted to risk being hit with unfair trade suits.

Yeah but I don't think the growth will stall any time soon with smartphones. They are still a small percentage of all cellphones and one by one everyone will switch to smartphones probably.

Smart phones may someday be the only phones one can buy, but even then people will be looking to upgrade to the newest and latest models, thus generating a continuous market. Apple has shown that by introducing new features on a regular basis, they can lure current customers to upgrade more often than necessary. But it takes a genius company to know the right time to release a new model or the right kinds of features to add.

Well everyone except my Mom and Dad. They still have trouble with their flip phone. :D

Ahh, so Siri has came along at the right time to help them use their new Apple phone to its full potential.

And today we saw more proof of why the iPhone will never again be introduced in the month of June. I always thought that was a strange thing to do.

Never say never. Apple has just served notice to all its phone competitors that they cannot rely on Apple to be completely predictable. An unpredictable major competitor disrupts everyone's marketing schedules. :)

I'm certain someone has posted something similar, but I certainly hope that Apple doesn't forget what products have gotten them to this point. Seeing the languishing Mac Pro, then seeing computer sales represent such a small percentage of their revenue, I'd really like to see Apple commit to their computer customers.

While I would like to see Apple continue to support the high end Mac market, it may not be a viable market to do so. Compared to laptop Macs, the desktop Macs are a much smaller segment of the Mac business. According to today's numbers, the Desktop Macs were only 28% of the total Mac sales in units. I would assume that the Mac Pro is a small percent of that number.

However, Apple has continued to produce the iPod Classic, so maybe a new MacPro is still gonna happen once Intel gets the next new chips out the door.

That's a pretty vague and unsupported statement. Apple has created tens of thousands of US jobs. How many are you expecting?

People seem to forget how many tens of thousands of employees Apple has in the U.S., just because Apple doesn't do final assembly in the U.S. doesn't mean that some component manufacturing and all of the administration is here.
 
One reason why profits are so high:

Apple products are produced under almost slave-labor conditions. Nets have to be hung underneath the windows of Fox-Conn workers, as their living conditions are so bad that so many of them killed themselves. And those were Chinese workers who were not used to anything close to US work conditions.

Also, Apple is a champion in exporting manufacturing jobs. About 700 000 jobs outside the US versus 50 000 inside.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/b...d-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all

Those of you who applaud the record profits should also know about the price it comes at: lost jobs in the US, and slave labor in China.

But there are enough fools who just applaud anything Apple does. Until they lose their job and cannot afford the new iPhone.

Because, even though produced by people who earn very, very little, sleep in dormitories, and have no human rights (at least not many more than in a gulag), the price for an iPhone is very high.

So, reckless behavior supported Apple's super success as much as the creation of great products.

But as long as Apple fans bend over for everything Apple does, Apple will not change its ways.

Obama, in today's speech to the state of the nation, has addressed the loss of manufacturing jobs through reckless corporations. But he also said that, as the Chinese won't take it any longer, and production costs are rising in China, production jobs are starting to come back. And that it is nonsense to say you can't manufacture in the US (high tech and cars proved Obama right).

So, I'd like to see a little bit more reflection here instead of the brainless adoration of quarterly results.
 
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