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Apple Reports Record Results for 1Q 2017: $17.9B Profit on $78.4B Revenue, 78.3M iPhones

One thing I find a bit odd? Why do practically all of the spikes in iPhone sales have iPad sales tracking them so closely?

Is it really a "thing" that a lot of people buy both a new iPhone and an iPad at the same time?
 
Nunyabinez said:
9% is Mac share of revenue. If anyone is unclear about why there is little love for the Mac, there's your answer.

P.S. figure out what percentage of the 9% is the Mac Pro.
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Having 69% of your revenue tied to a single product line (iPhone) isn't a good thing. If they actually released good Macs on a regular basis, then Mac sales would be higher, and diversify their revenue.
 
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Apple says record revenue for Watch so clearly Beats sales are declining. As I've said before, Apple bought Beats at the peak of its popularity. Stupid stupid acquisition.
 
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Nunyabinez said:
9% is Mac share of revenue. If anyone is unclear about why there is little love for the Mac, there's your answer.

P.S. figure out what percentage of the 9% is the Mac Pro.
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So, you're saying Apple has so little love for the Mac because that sales percentage is so low? I think you have the cause and effect confused. I tend to think the percentage is so low because Apple has so little love for it. Apple rarely updates the computers, doesn't appear to be taking the desktop line seriously anymore (beyond removing valued features so it can be skinnier and more aesthetically pleasing) and not keeping up with the rest of the market in terms of sheer power. On top of that, they seem spectacularly tone-deaf to what the market is asking for (for the billionth @#$%& time, a headless Mac already!)

It's no mystery why the Mac isn't selling better. It's because Apple isn't trying very hard.
 
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Plato65 said:
Some things to note:

3) Also, Apple appears convinced that iPads are the future, but iPad sales are shrinking and Macs are growing. Macs currently account for 9% of revenue vs. 7% for iPads.
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The plus size iPhones really cut into iPad sales I think. I know that since I moved to a plus model I barely look at my iPad anymore. My guess is a lot of consumers find they don't need both devices.
 
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thisisnotmyname said:
As one of those customers I don't feel that nothing has been given back to me. In exchange for my funds I have received iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, and Apple Watch this past year. It's an exchange of money for goods and services and I feel I've received value for the deal.
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You may feel like you got value, try being in the UK where they used the baseless excuse of Brexit to place a massive price hike on ALL their devices! That's assuming your not living in the UK?

And also have to say Apple products are not value for money in the slightest, what a maximum 1080P screen on a phablet, 760P on the other model with reduced features, let's not forget the ditching of the headphone port... everything they have done has been to drive that profit, not the experience or quality but profits. Hence the disgusting amount that they've made. And I've bought plenty from them the last year before you try the old why are you here crap.
 
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I guess this means the good times are back again. I assume the new iPads coming in spring won't be out long enough to push up sales.
 
goodcow said:
Having 69% of your revenue tied to a single product line (iPhone) isn't a good thing. If they actually released good Macs on a regular basis, then Mac sales would be higher, and diversify their revenue.
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It's partly because most people buy the iPhone on installment payments verses buying a Mac at full retail price. Yes, I know there is such a thing as credit cards. I am just saying that if you had to buy an iPhone at full retail price like a Mac, then the iPhone won't be nearly as popular as it is.
 
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haydn! said:
True, but 9% is still $20 billion plus revenue per year, and a sizeable company in it's own right. There are plenty of notebook makers who would love that revenue!
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Yes, but it's not run as a separate company. When Tim Cook and the executive team are looking where to focus resources and they have choices to make, who gets them? The 70% of revenue or the 10% of revenue?

I would be quite happy if they spun off the Macs. I don't believe TC for one minute when he talks about how important the Mac is to him.
 
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Neepman said:
That chart sure does point out what a festering steaming pile of failure the watch is. Its percentage doesn't even rate it own sliver that would only serve to point out the fail.
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Yeah, the Apple Watch is a total joke.
 
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Fusion79 said:
That is what I thought also. History has shown us (RIM, Moto) that depending so much on one product line can turn bad quickly if sales were to fall off a cliff. What will be interesting to me is if cell phone makers can keep people buying new phones every two years now that the US market has shifted away from 2 year contracts. More and more people I know are holding on to their phones longer. The next year or two should really give us the answer to this question.
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That's why the services number is so important
 
kingtj said:
One thing I find a bit odd? Why do practically all of the spikes in iPhone sales have iPad sales tracking them so closely?

Is it really a "thing" that a lot of people buy both a new iPhone and an iPad at the same time?
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It's because the spikes are in the holiday quarter when most device sales tend to spike.

The introduction of a new model during a different quarter might create a spike there, but all other things being equal device sales are going to be better across the board during the quarter that ends in December.
 
drewyboy said:
At running a profitable company? Sure. At providing a wonderful user experience. No.
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Is that why they have the best customer rates?
Or are you just a fan of releasing a new product category that had to be killed because of lack of consumer interest?
Steve was a fan of that tactic.
 
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MacFather said:
Make no mistake. Tim Cook is a skinnier version of Ballmer. Total lack of vision. Total lack of the importance of ecosystem (monitors, routers…). Sacrificing user experience for margins (5400rpm spinners…).
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Well, he's making Apple a record amount of cash, so he's clearly doing something right.
 
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andy.ringwood said:
As others have said, can we give Tim a break? He might not be as good as Jobs but he's doing a fine damn job.
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As John Siracusa says: "success hides problems". Microsoft has always been profitable, but I'm tearing my hair out using Office 365 Word because of the stupid places that settings are hidden, the way that it creates PDFs with 92DPI embded pictures (and a registry hack needed to change). So looking at the bottom line MS and their products must be great, right?

Why we are applauding Tim Cook for making lots of money, rather than making better products for the consumer? I'm all for companies making money - that's necessary for sustainability, but there is a limit to all growth - and at a certain point that growth comes at the expense of others in the ecosystem - in this case more often then not, the consumer.

There would have been *no* tears shed if (for example) the iPhone 7 had had a headphone jack (and was 0,5mm thicker) or the new MacBook "Pros" weighed 50g more and had a few legacy ports for today's working pro instead of the dongle-fest we have now.

But it's ok because the people at the top are "adding value" to the *company* in order to build huge flying saucer buidlings. Decadence anyone?
 
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apolloa said:
Have to say that's an obscene amount of money, and nothing given back to the customer. Also shows how much of a one trick pony they still are.
Would be nice if they reduced the iPhone and iPad costs in the UK, considering the pounds gone back up but noooo.
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Really? Nothing given back?

How about well-designed products that seamlessly and tightly integrate together well, enhancing the productivity of their customers' lives. Products that work so well, millions of people enjoy the user experience and are willing to open their wallets and come back as repeat customers, year after year.
 
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