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Apple Reports Results for Q2 2012: $11.6 Billion Profit on $39.2 Billion in Revenue

"You can converge a toaster and a refrigerator but those won't be pleasing to the user."

I dunno, I'd love a freezer where you could load up frozen waffles and defrost/toast a couple with one button. ;)

I do wish I'd sold my AAPL at $640; I doubt we'll see that price again for a while.
 
Why do I get the impression, there will be quite a bit of short covering tomorrow morning? I am quite sure, the trader down the street will be jumping out the window. (It's ok, he lives in a one story house. The rose bushes might not survive.):eek:
 
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor, the iPad 3 is the same as the old iPad but with the screen of the iPhone 4. The new apple TV went also through a minimal refresh. The iPods are dead. The Macs are also very old now and none knows when and if they will be refreshed any time soon. All I see are more TV commercials that remind us how much apple used to innovate. I am kind worried, they make a lot of money because now their markets are bigger and are expanding in asia, but I am worried that Cook, which is not a visionary, cannot really make drastic decisions and instead keep cashing on the visions Steve Jobs had 10 years ago. The markets are now different, Apple needs someone like Jobs that can invent new markets and products from nothing, and it is not afraid to take the risk. I am wondering if we will ever see the iTV or other true new products from them. I really hope that Jonathan Ive will take the lead of the company at some point. He is the only real solution.
 
topomango said:
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor, the iPad 3 is the same as the old iPad but with the screen of the iPhone 4. The new apple TV went also through a minimal refresh. The iPods are dead. The Macs are also very old now and none knows when and if they will be refreshed any time soon. All I see are more TV commercials that remind us how much apple used to innovate. I am kind worried, they make a lot of money because now their markets are bigger and are expanding in asia, but I am worried that Cook, which is not a visionary, cannot really make drastic decisions and instead keep cashing on the visions Steve Jobs had 10 years ago. The markets are now different, Apple needs someone like Jobs that can invent new markets and products from nothing, and it is not afraid to take the risk. I am wondering if we will ever see the iTV or other true new products from them. I really hope that Jonathan Ive will take the lead of the company at some point. He is the only real solution.
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Mr. Jobs has been dead about six months. How many new products did Apple introduce in the six months before he died? How many in the six months before that?

If you picked a random six months from Apple's life in the past several years, chances are you would see a picture of an Apple that was not producing innovative new products every week. You might even think you were looking at a stagnant company. You would have been as wrong then as you are likely wrong now.
 
topomango said:
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor, the iPad 3 is the same as the old iPad but with the screen of the iPhone 4. The new apple TV went also through a minimal refresh. The iPods
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All those products you list were still developed under Steve. So will the next generations most likely.
 
topomango said:
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor, the iPad 3 is the same as the old iPad but with the screen of the iPhone 4. The new apple TV went also through a minimal refresh. The iPods are dead. The Macs are also very old now and none knows when and if they will be refreshed any time soon. All I see are more TV commercials that remind us how much apple used to innovate. I am kind worried, they make a lot of money because now their markets are bigger and are expanding in asia, but I am worried that Cook, which is not a visionary, cannot really make drastic decisions and instead keep cashing on the visions Steve Jobs had 10 years ago. The markets are now different, Apple needs someone like Jobs that can invent new markets and products from nothing, and it is not afraid to take the risk. I am wondering if we will ever see the iTV or other true new products from them. I really hope that Jonathan Ive will take the lead of the company at some point. He is the only real solution.
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This has always been apples philosophy - add minimal upgrades every year so that they can minimize r&d costs. Just look at how the iPod line evolved.
 
Those number tell the story of Apple '12 - an iOS company:

  • 75% of revenue from the iOS hardware (80% if you include iTunes store revenue)
  • CPUs ie Macs make up only 13%. I assume that laptops outsell desktop, so even with a higher average selling price from desktops, it seem to me Mac desktops may be only 5% of Apple's revenue. iTunes store revenue is 5% and that excites primarily to sell iOS hardware.

Are the raw numbers those graphs were produced from available? I would be interested to seeing the data graphed as a line graph.
 
GREEN4U said:
Who cares. Apple will eventually crash someday, think about it.
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And to think you cared enough to tell everyone you don't care. Sounds more like you hope Apple will crash. The same Apple is doomed theory all the pundits have been telling everyone for years. Might as well put that right up there with the people that predict the world will end in 2012.
 
Whoever made the charts: Would it be possible not to call a computer a "CPU"? It's not cool or hip, just dumb and ignorant. Thank you!
 
Not sure if I missed it above - was the breakdown of US vs 'international' revenue given? That's been changing quite a bit in recent years, am wondering what it is now.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
Even if they don't have a strategic plan, I'd say their success demonstrates they are a well run company. You don't get to #1 without being well-run. The problem is they may be too well-run. It may well be the case they have more success than they know to do with it. Let's just hope that doesn't corrupt them.
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Apple has had a huge cash reserve for several years now. Long enough to come up with a strategic plan.

thingamamac said:
Whoever made the charts: Would it be possible not to call a computer a "CPU"? It's not cool or hip, just dumb and ignorant. Thank you!
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That's how Apple refers to Macs in their financials.
 
Peace said:
That's how Apple refers to Macs in their financials.
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It's still cringeworthy, no matter who uses that term. If the CPU in my Mac breaks, is it just the CPU (the part) or the whole CPU (the Mac) that's broken? If a Mac Pro has several CPUs, is the Mac Pro still just one "CPU"?
 
thingamamac said:
It's still cringeworthy, no matter who uses that term. If the CPU in my Mac breaks, is it just the CPU (the part) or the whole CPU (the Mac) that's broken? If a Mac Pro has several CPUs, is the Mac Pro still just one "CPU"?
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Put it this way- That's how they refer to them for financial purposes. Get over it.
 
Can someone please explain this to me...

For the current or past stockholders, how are you making any money off of just a couple shares? I understand if you bought in years back but just a $50 gain is nothing after you have buy/sell fees?

Again, please correct me here if I am wrong. :confused: I have a mutual fund that is comprised of AAPL and some other heavy hitters that does well for me now. I enjoyed the AAPL ride until a few months ago and got out. For me, it is too expensive to make any kind of hit.

I understand it is somewhat "safe" seeing there appeal right now on top of there amazing figures but from a return standpoint I don't see it anymore. Simply over-priced for the average investor.
 
shaunymac said:
Can someone please explain this to me...

For the current or past stockholders, how are you making any money off of just a couple shares? I understand if you bought in years back but just a $50 gain is nothing after you have buy/sell fees?

Again, please correct me here if I am wrong. :confused: I have a mutual fund that is comprised of AAPL and some other heavy hitters that does well for me now. I enjoyed the AAPL ride until a few months ago and got out. For me, it is too expensive to make any kind of hit.

I understand it is somewhat "safe" seeing there appeal right now on top of there amazing figures but from a return standpoint I don't see it anymore. Simply over-priced for the average investor.
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When you look and the stock purely at price, it is very out of reach for many casual investors, which is unfortunate. When looking at the stock fundamentals however, the stock is still undervalued.
 
I love being a shareholder! The next three months of people talking about apples imminent failure begins now.
 
basesloaded190 said:
When you look and the stock purely at price, it is very out of reach for many casual investors, which is unfortunate. When looking at the stock fundamentals however, the stock is still undervalued.
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I definitely agree with you there. That is why I picked a mutual fund that had AAPL in it. As far as growing my money, I couldn't do it with AAPL alone. It is simply to expensive.

Now, if they would split it ...yeah, right! Those are rumors just like a Mac Pro! I will believe that when I see it.
 
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor, the iPad 3 is the same as the old iPad but with the screen of the iPhone 4. The new apple TV went also through a minimal refresh. The iPods are dead. The Macs are also very old now and none knows when and if they will be refreshed any time soon. All I see are more TV commercials that remind us how much apple used to innovate. I am kind worried, they make a lot of money because now their markets are bigger and are expanding in asia, but I am worried that Cook, which is not a visionary, cannot really make drastic decisions and instead keep cashing on the visions Steve Jobs had 10 years ago. The markets are now different, Apple needs someone like Jobs that can invent new markets and products from nothing, and it is not afraid to take the risk. I am wondering if we will ever see the iTV or other true new products from them. I really hope that Jonathan Ive will take the lead of the company at some point. He is the only real solution.
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Wow, this is so un-informed on so many levels. People also said the iPad was just a bigger iPhone. And iPhone was just LG Prada with better software. Obviously, Tim is not Steve but to think all the great ideas from Apple was from Steve alone is pretty naive. One of Steve's great strength was his ability to push everyone to make the best product possible. The core Apple team that Steve built is still intact and that is his greatest work. And Ive is a great product designer, one of the very best. But I don't think he is suited to run Apple nor does he want to. From his interviews, he is probably happiest when he in working on new products with his team in his lab and making great designs. I don't think he wants to travel around the globe meeting with heads of States and CEOs.
 
Bear said:
I bet iPod sales would go up if they had a new iPod Touch. Most of the people who wanted the current iPod Touch probably bought them within a few months of it being released.
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The new craptastic ipod nano is definitely to blame as well. I don't know whose idea that was but they should be fired.
 
shaunymac said:
Can someone please explain this to me...

For the current or past stockholders, how are you making any money off of just a couple shares? I understand if you bought in years back but just a $50 gain is nothing after you have buy/sell fees?

Again, please correct me here if I am wrong. :confused: I have a mutual fund that is comprised of AAPL and some other heavy hitters that does well for me now. I enjoyed the AAPL ride until a few months ago and got out. For me, it is too expensive to make any kind of hit.

I understand it is somewhat "safe" seeing there appeal right now on top of there amazing figures but from a return standpoint I don't see it anymore. Simply over-priced for the average investor.
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You shoul look at trading options on AAPL. Leverage your money and profit on the movement of the stock. By your comment, I can tell that you don't get it yet. Read and you will understand. Invest and you will be a fan.
 
topomango said:
I may drag bad comments, but I want still say what I think about this. Since Steve dies I am not seeing any real innovation in Apple products. The iPhone 4s is merely a revision update with a faster processor...
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And yet... Apple has sold the iPhone 4 and the "slightly revised" iPhone 4S to the tune of over 100 million units combined.

Clearly... your claimed "lack of innovation" isn't hurting Apple at all.
 
topomango said:
The Macs are also very old now and none knows when and if they will be refreshed any time soon.
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I suppose that's as opposed to before when Apple used to announce new Macs months in advance, right? :rolleyes:
It's quite obvious that Apple was waiting for Ivy Bridge CPUs to come out. If you check the buyer's guide, the MBPs haven't even reached the average time between refreshes.
 
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