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Just heard something today about research in macaques that suggests one-eyed depth perception is possible by processing information with respect to eye motion. Check it out here: http://www.sciam.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=C8F2C76E-BD26-930D-98653F8A716AF422&sc=rss

The brain has amazing spatial ability allowing compensating for a lack of true 3d information to approximate the sensation and ability to function as if you can see 3d. The analog is that we really have two 2d images the brain 'creates' a 3d image from, there isn't really a 3d image to start with, but the basic piece of my point is that '3d' as we define it is two different 2d images + brain processing, if you can only take in one 2d image, you can't do 3d.
 
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My wife, who is a graphic designer, is blind in one eye. She cant see 3D and there are tons of others out there who can't.

Until they find a way to make 3d possible with only one eye, this is pointless.


I don't usually read past the first page of posts, but I just had to read on to see how badly you guys were going to burn this post. :)
 
Great idea, only problem is that only one person get see the 3D effect at a time. Notice the part where the ssystem tracks the vier's eye location and continously adjuusts for movement. Not a problem on a computer but it looks like this is not for a living room TV set.

Discounting the rest of your statement, which I find intriguing, you obviously didn't read the entire article which added:

Apple also claims it can accommodate multiple observers to provide "a unique and personal 3D visual experience to each individual observer, with each visual experience (i.e., projected image) selectively being similar or different from the others, as desired."

... meaning that multiple viewers could not only see it, but see it from separate or the same viewpoint as the primary observer. Sound rather nice to me, if they can manage it.
 
Not good.

My wife, who is a graphic designer, is blind in one eye. She cant see 3D and there are tons of others out there who can't.

Until they find a way to make 3d possible with only one eye, this is pointless.

You make a good point except for one problem; because your wife (and others) is blind in one eye, she can't see 3D at all, not even the physical articles in front of her. Only people with two functioning eyes can see 3D and even then, many of those people cannot see the artificial 3D created by most current systems, particularly those 3D matrix pieces that were such a fad a few years back. If both eyes cannot see equally (i.e. both eyes of equal strength vs one eye visually stronger than the other) then most artificial 3D technologies are worthless.

I like the concept of providing a separate image to each eye, but how can you manage that unless you are able to actually focus on the individual eyes or use some form of software-controlled glasses? In all honesty, I am so nearsighted in one eye that the goggles idea really seems better than the projection method.
 
long long time ago

finally a technology from a long long time ago will be available in the near near future!!
 

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Not good.

My wife, who is a graphic designer, is blind in one eye. She cant see 3D and there are tons of others out there who can't.

Until they find a way to make 3d possible with only one eye, this is pointless.

Sorry but what a ludicrous comment. I feel sorry for your wife but 3D isn't possible with one eye as I am sure you realize. Let me get this straight, you are saying because some people can't see 3D no one should? Should we all shut off sound as there are deaf people out there?
 
As seen in the Economist...

I remember reading in the Economist a few issues back where they mentioned various companies that are working on this kind of technology. I don't remember what companies were working on it, but I don't recall seeing Apple's name, though they tend to be quite secretive with what they're working on ;)

I think this technology will be best useful consumer-wise with a TV. I can see some people wanting a monitor with 3-d...but I almost think that it might be counter-productive to have 3-d images bouncing all over the place while you're trying to work. 3-d TVs sound cool.

I remember in the article that companies were hoping for medical/science applications, which I can see as being quite beneficial. Maybe if Apple is a company that can perfect the technology, they'd be nice enough to share it with other areas, such as the medical field? Who knows what Steve has in mind...
 
Information representation, not gaming

I know it sounds great to make video games go 3D and other high end graphic eye candy. The problem though, is that the high end is high end already -- there isn't much computing power to spare for the certainly intensive task of real-time 3D imaging for a moving viewer. So if you want 3D tetris, sure thing, but if you want 3D Halo, it's just too expensive to build, and it will be for a good while.

3D would be amazing, though, for representing information. GIS, spreadsheets, graphs, topographic maps, organization of windows and spaces on your computer -- this could be amazing. Increasing the dimensions means increasing the number of variables you can cleanly represent at once, and since that tends to be about two, increasing to three is HUGE.

The question is, how much does the display cost?
 
Great idea, only problem is that only one person get see the 3D effect at a time. Notice the part where the ssystem tracks the vier's eye location and continously adjuusts for movement. Not a problem on a computer but it looks like this is not for a living room TV set.

This would work well with my other idea, using the builtin webcam to sense hand movement rather then using the touch pad. Take a lot more "compute power" to use a camera but them the user could interact with the 3d objects floating in front of him. They would need two web cams to track the hands in 3D. A 3D video conference could be done too.

Sorry if this has been replied to; I've not read the whole thread...

With 3d technology like what is being developed by Samsung, it would be possible two view two unique 3d images at once... or even two different images at that. Heres a demo video of it at CES 08.
 
'Apple points out that computational power has advanced to the point where these true 3d images can be rendered and animated in realtime'
not with stock ancient graphics cards Apple use they won't.

Well the are working more closely with nvidia. And nvidia is pretty big on the realtime rendering and animation.
 
Not good.

My wife, who is a graphic designer, is blind in one eye. She cant see 3D and there are tons of others out there who can't.

Until they find a way to make 3d possible with only one eye, this is pointless.

Sorry, but this would be an optional part to activate in OS X. You aren't going to screw the rest of use who aren't blind and can see in 3d by both eyes.

You offer that solution and continue to work on a solution to convince the optic nerve to be able to resolve this draw back or you help regenerate the dead optic nerve on the other side through genetic research.
 
Sorry, but this would be an optional part to activate in OS X. You aren't going to screw the rest of use who aren't blind and can see in 3d by both eyes.

You offer that solution and continue to work on a solution to convince the optic nerve to be able to resolve this draw back or you help regenerate the dead optic nerve on the other side through genetic research.

I read an article recently though that explained how the brain of one eyed people can arrange the data so they can 'see' a pseudo 3D which is sufficiently accurate for them to manage in the real world. It explains how my grandfather drove a car for 50 years with sight in only one eye. Shutting one eye when you have two will not recreate this as the brain requires quite a while to learn this trick. Similar but different brain effects include being able to see correctly after a while (days I imagine) with glasses that invert the world. When eventually taken off the poor test subject has to relearn to see the correct way. Don't try this at home or after drinking alcohol.
 
I read an article recently though that explained how the brain of one eyed people can arrange the data so they can 'see' a pseudo 3D

Of course this must be true. We all use all of the tricks all the time but the brain choses to pay attention to the whichever "trick" is the best at any given time which can change at any time just by looking at something else.

We can percieve depth on TV and movie screens and none of use can perceive depth past a certain distance. We use other cues such as paralex relative size and focus and it turns out atmospheric haze. Stero vision is only usfull for close up tasks.
 
Uh, wait sec. Stereo capable graphics cards have been used in realtime CAD/CAM/CAE for a looong time.

I suppose Apple can pursue a process patent just as well as any patent squatter can.

I guess you didnt read the description closely. This isn't just stereoscopic -- it's autostereoscopic. I've not seen this anywhere before.

Most of us have seen different forms of stereoscopic vision, from those "magic eye" illusions to the imax movie with michael jackson. At my college, they had an excellent stereoscopic visualization system that even had cameras for gesture input -- but everybody in the room had to wear polarized glasses.
 
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