People forget the front camera, no, NO network in america could handle video calling. i had a nokia n95 and tried video chat once in europe where the network is far more superior than here (let alone at&t) and it looked like absolute crap, it looked like a seriously bad slideshow. ichat on iphone would be cool but i bet you my last paycheck you're at least 2 years away from that.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Researching Movement-Aware Interfaces for iPhones
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
timp123, I'm confused on what you mean by "How So?"
I have no proof that these are "legal" devices. They just might be representation of what future iPhones would be like.
It does seem to work that these seem to match up with the reports about the hidden devices in 3.0
The phone networks here are horribly slow, although I would like to know if Sprint's 4G is all what it's cracked up to be.
I have no proof that these are "legal" devices. They just might be representation of what future iPhones would be like.
It does seem to work that these seem to match up with the reports about the hidden devices in 3.0
The phone networks here are horribly slow, although I would like to know if Sprint's 4G is all what it's cracked up to be.
UI on iPhone...please take this idea Apple!!!
Sorry about the frantic typing...
What I was thinking is to have multiple swipe bars (3 additional) on the unlock page that you can swipe and get to an assigned app./bookmark/home-screen. The bottom swipe bar (4th and original) would be used for going to your most recent page.
I was also thinking that background apps are bad for power, especially if you have more than 4 "powerful" apps open at once, but apple could create a page (accessible from a custom swipe from unlock screen) that would allow you to view the 4 apps - and only 4 - that you want to manage. That way if you have pandora open you can (when you hit the home screen button) tell it to stay open. Now you can always have up to four apps open and not consume too much power/bandwidth. Also you can have the iPhone auto shut off an app after a set amount of time so your battery doesn't go away if you forget to turn one off...
Thoughts?.....
What I want to see is more intelligent use of the "swipe to unlock" process. Unlocking the phone is an extra step on top of anything that a user would want to do.
My idea: Apple could have a feature where drawing a certain (customisable) gesture would quick-launch a particular application/function. What if, for anything you had on your home screen (or any function within any app) you could set a gesture to launch it from the unlock screen? Say I had macrumors bookmarked in Safari - I could draw "MR" on my locked phone and have Safari launch it in one go.
Simpler gestures could be drawing a "C" to go straight to your contacts, "M" to go to your music, or (more cliche) draw a heart shape to automatically call your partner.
You with me?It would be so much faster and not require you to look (even if you had to have an "enter" key at the lower right corner). Applications from the app store could even have their own default gestures which you could change if you wanted. And since you can use as many fingers as you want there would be no limit to the number of gestures possible.
Thoughts?
Sorry about the frantic typing...
What I was thinking is to have multiple swipe bars (3 additional) on the unlock page that you can swipe and get to an assigned app./bookmark/home-screen. The bottom swipe bar (4th and original) would be used for going to your most recent page.
I was also thinking that background apps are bad for power, especially if you have more than 4 "powerful" apps open at once, but apple could create a page (accessible from a custom swipe from unlock screen) that would allow you to view the 4 apps - and only 4 - that you want to manage. That way if you have pandora open you can (when you hit the home screen button) tell it to stay open. Now you can always have up to four apps open and not consume too much power/bandwidth. Also you can have the iPhone auto shut off an app after a set amount of time so your battery doesn't go away if you forget to turn one off...
Thoughts?.....
How do you know that that's a nano, and the other one is clearly not a touch as they all have the phone icon as mentioned by chrmjenkins.
@SirJankovic: In the UK we've had the abilitity to use video calls for quite a while now, but to most people its just a gimmick and I would be suprised if many people use it consistently. You get a reasonable frame rate so its not quite as bad as a slideshow but the quality isn't brilliant, more like a low-end webcam on msn messenger or something. It's a feature I would very rarely use if added to the iPhone (as i've only ever used it once or twice) so unless they find some other useful way of utilising a front-facing camera then its just adding to the costs for very little gain.
The items on the right ARE buttons.
According to the actual patent, they'd be a relocated volume rocker, and the ringer on-off switch.
"an up/down button 184 for volume control"
"on/off button 182 for a ring indicator of incoming phone calls"
The items on the left (where the silence-switch & volume rocker used to be are listed as "802.11b/g communication device 186, and/or a Bluetooth.TM. communication device 188."
Now what I also find interesting is that they say with the 802.x module, they explicitely say that WiMAX would be supported.
(I can has iPhone Clearwire?)
Ya, no kidding. It was a joke, man.
Obviously this wouldn't be able to detect that, because without the GPS as reference, and looking at the laws of physics, as far as the phone is concerned for "motion", it is at rest while in a car.
They need to put patent first before release of device. They always do that so I guess yes...we will have iChat av there.
Huh? there is also three ports on the bottom of the product....
Is this the iPhone we're talking about?
Note iPhone 3.0 software...
Note Front Facing Camera....
I think i have a name.... iPhone2! With 4G!
oh..... and a Magnetometer!!!
I'm guessing this will not be for a long...long... time!
I am right by saying there are 2 additional buttons on right side of iPhone?
Did you read the patent to see what it says numbers 182 and 184 are? They look like buttons to me.
I keep hoping we will get a front camera for iChat this June but I just am not holding my breath. My guess is next year when 4G networks are getting up.
A front facing camera is not only great for video chat, but would also make self portrait photos very easy. No more 'blind' photos of you and a friend.
umDid you read the patent to see what it says numbers 182 and 184 are? They look like buttons to me.
don't worry, everything will be ok, no need for a fanboi fight.
2 cameras?
How about a 5 mpx cam on the back and a 3.2 mpx on the front? We heard that apple bought two different? Would be awesome
How about a 5 mpx cam on the back and a 3.2 mpx on the front? We heard that apple bought two different? Would be awesome
Other than for self portraits there would be little use. The only "real" use for a front-facing camera is for video chats, and those are held at far, far lower resolution than 3.2M (more like 320x240 if you are lucky, realistically 176x144 or something, especially in the U.S.). No, assuming the next version does have a front-facing cam, it will be a) tiny and b) very very very low res, as that is all it needs to be until 4G / 5G networks can actually feasibly support 2-way, hi-res video chat (think 2015+ for that, just to throw out a number...)
Oh please Apple god in the sky let there be video chat
If they did the iPhone would blow all other cellphones out of the water.
It doesn't, and therein lies the problem of excitable people reading stuff into patents that just isn't there (like those who thought the scrolling patent was a far-reaching multi-touch patent).
The application's examples DO NOT MENTION A FRONT FACING CAMERA. If it intended to, then it would've EXPLICITLY included that as a possible example. YOU COVER IDEAS IN A PATENT BY PUTTING THEM IN, NOT LEAVING THEM OUT.
In a similar manner, the application also uses the phrase "in some implementations" to speak of the motion, light and proximity sensors.
Microsoft does something similar with the WM 6.5 lock page... you slide vertically to highlight categories like incoming texts, voice mail, calendar, etc... then right or left to open that particular category.
There is also at least one current WM addon from a third party that allow you to set up app launches, dialing, or whatever, in response to custom gestures. It's become quite popular to write addons that watch the screen.
Erm, how? The last 3 phones i've bought have had front facing cameras, not because I wanted that feature but because they all just happen to have one. I don't think many people are holding back from getting an iPhone for something like video chat. I'm thinking 32gb storage, better rear camera and better battery just to get on par with others. To blow them out of the water you'd need OLED, 64gb storage, high quality camera (not just high MP yada yada) and what other bells and whistles apple can pull out of the bag.