I like what Apple is trying to do with this, but I'm not sure if they have the balance right just yet.
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Apple Responds to Report on iOS 13's Frequent Location Tracking Reminders, Emphasizes Privacy
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Exactly, like Dark Sky. That one App that I want it to track my location. It's not like Apple really cares about privacy but I can't bring politics in or I'll just get another ban.
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They could definitely improve it. For example: If they don't want to take away the reminder, at least give me the option to have a once a month popup that overviews my device's location activitiy, somewhat like the weekly usage info.
apple has seemed to screw their own location services. Now trying to set a reminder for a location is a chore that often does not work. reminders does not remember the locations you use and often wont locate a chains location even remotely close. like if I select walmart to remind me of something the selection is out of state. one I use often is a place called Sheridan fruit company. siri gets it all right but chooses Sheridan Oregon. when I manully fix it the radius it selects every time is about 2 miles and I have to change it every single time.
It's up to the user to decide, not Apple or the developer. That's the point. Apple didn't make any decision for anyone. They are providing information.
Just because "it's your business model" to rely on location, doesn't mean the user doesn't deserve the option to opt out. For those that don't care, they can allow it.
If the developer has an issue, they need to change their model or improve their service because not enough users want to grant their location to benefit from their services.
My Nest app for my cameras in my house is the only app I have set to always allow as it turns the cameras off and on automatically when I leave the house and come home. I don't really like being told every few days about the fact the app has my location permission, which I have repeatedly given it. I wish there was a way to turn this "feature" off.
Yep. I agree. Just give me a way to turn the nanny notifications off. I am an adult and if I decide I know what I am doing I should be allowed to do it. I am not a teenager that was brought up in a safe space, then sent to college where only one opinion was allowed, then went into the workforce overwhelmed and under qualified, while I moved back home because of the safe space.
I don't blame Apple for wanting to protect the 30 year old children, but some of us were raised to understand the world. We need to be able to control our devices the way we want to, not the way Apple thinks is best.
I can to say exactly this. Also Pokémon go, which I let run in the background during my commute.
I wish there were apps I could just say "this is fine, I don't need a reminder" and get on with my life. It's neither strange that google maps nor Pokémon go are using my location
Have you any evidence that anyone, anywhere has ever stolen your location data?
I don't get this once a week anymore. I think my phone understands that I want this only when it's working for me. But the real thing about this is the other end: the companies, including Four Square, who buy all the location data they can, and amalgamate that with all the other data they can beg, borrow or steel, and sell that information. There is no nagging notification on any phone that alerts anybody to that. Google, various intelligence agencies around the world, everybody has access to that data. It's the marketplace, baby. What we need is regulations of THAT.
In the meantime I think this is possible through Lockdown, although I never tried it. It's an open source on-device firewall App: https://lockdownhq.com/
About location tracking: the main issue is with the few apps which do have a legitimate need for background tracking. I think Apple could leverage the curated nature of its App Store: they already review all Apps and they could also review whether an App is entitled to request background tracking from a user and whether the developer is reputable enough to grant such special privilege.
The ENTIRE business model of Silicon Valley is various ways to build profiles on people and use that modeling to target advertising (aside from the MIC partnerships of course).
It’s 2020 in a few hours, it’s time to stop living in the fantasyland where surveillance capitalism doesn’t exist.
I love and hate this. Every day I’ll get a pop up and it’s from the apps I’ve trusted and allowed. It’d be nice to see an option to maybe have a weekly summary similar to the screen time notification. I’d be more interested personally rather the daily 2-3 pop ups (weather apps, insurance and work apps mostly).
What part of “always allow” is unclear? If “always allow” only means “continue allowing” then maybe their message needs changed. But if a user manually navigates to notifications and selects “always allow” then always allow and stop this madness!
Why would any App need location access in background? They can get enough data from IP addresses
I don't know if this is a bug, but I don't get constant notifications. I get notifications for apps that I haven't used in a while, which is a good thing in my opinion.
I have no issue with this at all.
I have no issue with this at all.
Not really ... it's just an ad blocker + VPN ... without any fine tuning.
Same.
As example: https://www.sbb.ch/en/timetable/mobile-apps/sbb-mobile/easyride.html
The App needs to be able to track the traveler's location to be able to calculate the trip accurately.
I’m all for privacy but once I am prompted and give permission to always allow I don’t need reminders every week. I don’t care that Google Maps used my location 98 times in the last week and don’t want to have to reaffirm the permission I gave.
I too wish this warning/update screen were better implemented. The goal of reminding the user is fine, but the pop up happens in the middle of doing other things. So, instead of being a welcome reminder, the dialogue is a distraction. I think this causes the user to just say "yeah, it's fine" instead of actually thinking about it. A notification center or weekly, consolidated review would be better - sort of like how screen time is implemented. A location dashboard would be great too where you can easily see all settings for all apps, in alphabetical order.
Also, I think if a user goes into the menus and selects "always," then that should stick for longer. Maybe a month. Maybe even forever.
I would also be hesitant to applaud Apple too much for this (vs other companies' practices). Apple has clearly identified a consumer demand issue and are marketing it to increase their company. That's good, but it's not entirely altruistic either. It's just how they are differentiating at the moment. Good for Apple in reacting to consumer desires.
Also, I think if a user goes into the menus and selects "always," then that should stick for longer. Maybe a month. Maybe even forever.
I would also be hesitant to applaud Apple too much for this (vs other companies' practices). Apple has clearly identified a consumer demand issue and are marketing it to increase their company. That's good, but it's not entirely altruistic either. It's just how they are differentiating at the moment. Good for Apple in reacting to consumer desires.
I have a weather app I use which uses the red notification dot to present the current temperature. In order for it to do that it needs always on access to my location. Quite frequently I’ll get the pop up asking me if I want to continue allowing location access. It is annoying that the OS keeps asking me this when I always say yes.
Weather apps are one example where it is providing you for forecasts or (more importantly) lightning strikes within a certain radius of your location. Most of mine, except weather, are set to only allow while using the app.
There are few apps that would be useful to have, but not many.