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Apple Responds to Report Saying Company's Health Team Has Faced Several Internal Issues
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As a customer all I see is a bigger display. Everything else is literally the same. For example, was iPhone 6 Plus a redesign just because it was bigger?
and as pointed out, iPhone was immediately possible to compare so your point is invalid
It's actually worse. There are 3 major providers of MHR's and none of them talk to each other very well. I left off the names because I don't want to get sued. There are thousands of lesser providers and as you can imagine none of them talk at all. The interfaces suck. Written by software engineers that have no clue about medical stuff and the docs don't usually get any imput. I have personally used 2 of the major providers and about 5 of the lesser brands. All are screwed up. It could not be worse. The paper data gets trashed due to potential legal problems.
Managers "...telling stories..." rather than stating the facts to appease C-Level execs. Hmmm... Should Holmes be found not guilty... potential synergies there, plus Murica loves redemption stories. PlusPlus she's from The Farm as well so should bond tightly with Dr. Desai.
I can tell the employees are full of crap because they call Apple's culture "hardware oriented." Apple is literally one of the most software-oriented companies in existence today.
It sounds more like these employees are butthurt because they don't understand that Apple wants to provide health tools, not health services. Services not only open the company up to severe liability, it also means a completely different regulatory process.
The difference between a health tool and a health service? A tool says "your temperature is 102F." A service says "you have a fever and need to see a doctor."
I'm sure these people want Apple's Health stuff to, you know, help people. But Apple has explicitly stayed away from that stuff (see above). It sounds like the team needs a come-to-Jesus meeting so they can understand the limits of what Apple will and won't do.
It sounds more like these employees are butthurt because they don't understand that Apple wants to provide health tools, not health services. Services not only open the company up to severe liability, it also means a completely different regulatory process.
The difference between a health tool and a health service? A tool says "your temperature is 102F." A service says "you have a fever and need to see a doctor."
I'm sure these people want Apple's Health stuff to, you know, help people. But Apple has explicitly stayed away from that stuff (see above). It sounds like the team needs a come-to-Jesus meeting so they can understand the limits of what Apple will and won't do.
If I was to look at the health data collected by the Apple Watch over the three years I've had one, all I can do is really take it in with a huge asterisks that it would need to be verified with medical grade tests anyway. Given the couple of times my VO2 Max number shifts based on OS upgrades for example, it really makes me question how steady the algorithms are, and utterly pointless to compare readings when software changes alter the number.
I use other medical grade sensors, and though the software is antiquated, and forever behind (Only officially supported through iOS 14.2), readings are generally rock solid. I'm not getting vastly different readings due to an app update. The algorithm is what it is.
If the units of measure are in flux, well... that's got to be really frustrating for anyone trying to get meaning out of the figures in an app.
I use other medical grade sensors, and though the software is antiquated, and forever behind (Only officially supported through iOS 14.2), readings are generally rock solid. I'm not getting vastly different readings due to an app update. The algorithm is what it is.
If the units of measure are in flux, well... that's got to be really frustrating for anyone trying to get meaning out of the figures in an app.
You have valid arguments. I didn’t like how Apple changes values provided to health studies without documentation. If values change because of a change in an algorithm or a previously undiscovered bug, then so be it. It needs to be corrected, but is also needs to be documented.
To be fair, who’s to say your other devices are 100% accurate? They may be consistent, but without any updates they may be consistently wrong.
I have the feeling Apple didn’t know what they didn’t know when they started adding all these “health sensors” to the watch, and the pressure of an annual release cycle made things worse than they needed to be.
It is well documented that the real Series 7 design was abandoned due to production issues and so Apple fell back on a Series 6 + trivial screen update
This explains why everything else about the Series 7 (including internal codes) is identical to Series 6, which has never happened before in the history of Apple products
Apple narrowly avoided an AirPower cancellation by proposing this cosmetic redesign
This explains why everything else about the Series 7 (including internal codes) is identical to Series 6, which has never happened before in the history of Apple products
Apple narrowly avoided an AirPower cancellation by proposing this cosmetic redesign
I could see how people wanting to innovate with the watch could collide with people wanting to use the watch for bio-medical purposes. Expecially if they wanted to move it into the medical device market. Having some auditor saying you need a ton of documentation and fixed procedures does not match with constant innovation.
The culture in general from the outside and reports like this seems to have shifted dramatically, the whole slack saga, extensive leaks, small iterative prod launches and a global pandemic etc. have sucked and tarnished brand and the surprise factor it’s famous for - maybe this is a reflection on leadership, cautious steady and profitable ( due to a lot more products at good price ranges). The watch is the best smart watch by a distance but it is stagnant, and it could be a lot better - a pro fitness service with a whoop like performance angle with personalised coaching and metrics with a watch with more battery life would completely wipe the market clean
The pulse rate and pulse Ox reporting on the Watch 6 is not good enough to play in the medical device market. If they want to go there, they will have to have better sensors that read out more reliably. Don't get me wrong. I love those little sensors for what they do, and they probably have saved a life or two or even twenty, but .. not really competitive. Cheers!🍸😸
Sounds like someone was fudging numbers when reporting things to the COO and when truth got out cuts were made. If people would just speak and accept the truth when spoken a lot of development issues could be halted at the start. I like how some people are held up on the 6 vs 7 or whatever, this is big picture stuff, try thinking outside your status symbol.
As much as I love Apple products, I've known for years about the behavior of certain management in the company. A friend who worked there discussed how many would come to work at Apple wanting to do great things, only to quickly realize it would be an uphill battle to fight through politics, inertia and just bad management along the way. There are clearly departments where amazing things are done and bless the teams that are built right to encourage greatness, but like almost any company, there is rot. Successful companies keep that rot in check.
I loved Apple when they were the underdog. I no longer love this company but I still believe they make some of the greatest products in the world.
I loved Apple when they were the underdog. I no longer love this company but I still believe they make some of the greatest products in the world.
Well documented? Where? And Jon Prosser doesn’t count.
I've been thinking that we should probably have an NPO that hosts FOSS web-apps...
I'm pretty sure the world has no shortage of programmers who would be willing to work on projects like this to improve everyone's lives, no payment needed.
The reason we don't see this happen is for the same reason there's no FOSS apps on the iOS App Store - there's a gatekeeper who demands to be paid. The iOS App Store can't be fixed unless Apple is willing (or compelled by governments) to change. But I think web-apps can be - Wikipedia is proof that NPOs can operate enormous websites.
This would also be a way to bypass Apple's App Store and finally see free quality software on the iPhone - via the web browser.
that's what the customer sees: I fin that actually quite compelling. And with your comparison, what does a customer see in an iPhone 13 compared to say an 8? they do not "see" a redesign ...
I'm glad that you find it compelling but it's not even close to a redesign. Well if you'd say 13 to 5 I'd say maybe. But compared to the 8 it's a big change. The boxy design is a welcomed return to form from the glory days of iPhone 4/5. I really doubt that customers don't see the change. But the Watch is literally the same as the previous 6/5/4 series, except for that bigger display. And if we're talking about the design, I'm really looking for a circular shape in the vain of classic mechanical watches or Android competitors. In my humble opinion the circular design with radically thinner profile could be much much better than what the Apple Watch is now.
There are plenty of medical interchange standards. HL7/FHIR comes to mind.
The problem is no EMR wants to implement it because it'll make migrating off of their platform easier.
If the Feds mandated an HL7/FHIR feed to medicare or no reimbursement then things might be different.
The problem is no EMR wants to implement it because it'll make migrating off of their platform easier.
If the Feds mandated an HL7/FHIR feed to medicare or no reimbursement then things might be different.
It's funny how when you actually read the words as written you can see the true meaning. For example, " . . . .handled with appropriate corrective actions." "Appropriate" to whom? I bet the actions were completely appropriate to Apple and they slapped down the discontent like an annoying fruit fly.
What we're seeing out of Apple these days in terms of bugs and underwhelming hardware 'upgrades' are indicative of serious internal company issues. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple internally looks a lot like it did in 1996 when they were working on Copland, the Mac OS 8 that never was.
Of course it doesn't sound good. That's the original intention of the article whether it's true or not. Don't you read about Facebook research? We're all drawn to angry, polarizing, negative messages and that's what the article, and news these days, sells: negativity.
If you read about Apple on Forbes you would think Apple would be bankrupted by now because everything Apple did are catastrophes.
Actually health sensors would make a big difference for type 1 diabetics. It would increase their quality of life. Right now type 1 diabetic‘s need to have a CGM ($$$$) inserted into them or they have to prick their fingers 10 times a day and carry around a testing kit.
Plus there are several hundred million type 1 diabetics.
just stating facts
I am looking to buy an Apple Watch this year and we did take notice that what was leaked, didn't show up in AW7.
This isn't the first time we are hearing about a toxic culture inside Apple and it is now affecting their products. You can have all the money in the world but still rot from the inside out. Not saying they will but if talent doesn't feel appreciated, they will go elsewhere. We have all noticed the large number of bugs and the new iPad Mini looks to be a cautious buy at this point (with its growing issues). I hope they can turn this around before too much damage is done.
This isn't the first time we are hearing about a toxic culture inside Apple and it is now affecting their products. You can have all the money in the world but still rot from the inside out. Not saying they will but if talent doesn't feel appreciated, they will go elsewhere. We have all noticed the large number of bugs and the new iPad Mini looks to be a cautious buy at this point (with its growing issues). I hope they can turn this around before too much damage is done.