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Apple Responds to Reports of Final Cut Pro Refocusing

Mattie Num Nums said:
I work in that industry. Hes still right. I work at one of the largest movie, tv, media conglomerates in the world and the Mac users and small because Apple cannot offer the business what Microsoft can. Now we do have macs but its around 2500 Macs oppose to our 45000+ PC's.
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I do not work in LA, but I work on TV commercials in a major European capital and when I go to work there is a lot of Macs. From directors, to DPs, to gaffers, to producers, and PAs.

Going past that I'm sure there are plenty of PCs in use for a wide variety of uses. However to my knowledge Microsoft doesn't have any dominating editing suites, or post & SFX apps. I'd hardly say the professional market belongs to Microsoft.
 
Sirmausalot said:
I dunno. native HDV edits just fine in FCP, Obviously HDV isn't optimal, but it serve(d) a purpose for a couple of my features.
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True, and I have no issues with the formats he mentioned either. My favorites to date are still XDCAM and DVCPRO, with ProRes holding up the rear.

Otaviano said:
I'd hardly say the professional market belongs to Microsoft.
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It depends on what you mean by the pro market, because in video, sure Apple has seen much progress. But I'd still put money on there being more PCs in the broadcast and film industry than PCs. I'd put more money on there being much more HP workstations than anything as well.
 
I use shake, modo, houdini, Final Cut Studio, CS4 Master, cinema 4D, Maya, nuke, and realflow just fine on my macbook pro. I also run them on my Mac Pro, Mac Mini and old Powermac G5 (well not the intel only ones) depending on the project.

When I'm not in 3D, video/compositing land. I'm coding or maintaining servers.

I wear many hats as well as others like z4n3

Sure it gets crazy but its fun! :D

snowboarder said:
This is quite funny :)
Are you also a doctor and a lawyer?
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Windows is for boring accounting, Office and wannabe programmers who code in VB .Net lol

Winni said:
You haven't noticed it yet, but the consumer market is where Apple makes all the money. The business and professional market belongs to the Microsoft Windows platform.
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reel2reel said:
We do HDV and XDCAM (glorified HDV) too with no problem at all. If you know FCP, the key is to switch your sequence to render to ProRes.

Although we're all very impressed by Nicky G's factoids and use of the word "flip" (10 years working in the industry, I've never heard that stupid term before).

It's very nice that current Mac's have no problem transcoding (oh, sorry, flipping) to ProRes on the fly now. It's definitely preferable, if you're working with multiple formats, to conform (flip) everything to one codec.
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You must not have a lot of clients or associates if in ten years in the video industry, you've never heard anyone use the word "flip" as a nickname for transcode. Hint: One of the most popular transcoding platforms is called... Flip Factory. I guess you've never heard of it.
 
reel2reel said:
We do HDV and XDCAM (glorified HDV) too with no problem at all. If you know FCP, the key is to switch your sequence to render to ProRes.
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I'm going to give you props for actually throwing out a useful tip that surprisingly, a ton of users are not aware of. Absolutely if you are working with Long-GOP acquisition formats, you get the best results putting your footage on a ProRes timeline.

Now, a few definitions for you:

Long-GOP: Long Group of Pictures, that is to say a codec that uses Inter-frame compression, typically a combination of P and B frames in addition to full-raster I-frames

Acquisition format: the format (combination of file wrapper and codec essence) you natively shoot in-camera

Timeline: nick-name for "sequence"
 
Atkins said:
I've seen some car ads which basically state - if you buy our car you'll be a better father. I hope you don't take those as seriously.
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I always believed the car ads in which a gorgeous woman caresses the gear stick meant that if I bought the car I'd get a free 'personal massage'. Are you telling me they've been selling me a lie? :(
 
marmotmammal said:
Perhaps the first announcement was a trial balloon. In any case, the comparisons between the forthcoming "awesome" FCP release with the forthcoming Avid Media Composer 5 will be entertaining.
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FCP needs MUCH better utilization of system resources, shared workspace support, improved media management, and a sensible way to work with RED footage all in this next version or i'm jumping ship. MC5 is projected to everything i love about FCP (except the 99 levels of undo) without the drawbacks.

i've been a FCP editor since version 3.0, but i didn't really get "fast" until i started also cutting on avid. now that i can monitor externally without needing Avid hardware, i might rather spend $300 on an MXO2 mini than a FCS upgrade, and save myself the trouble of assuring avid-culture clients that Final Cut Studio is professional enough for their projects.

also-- why the hell was FCP 7 an upgrade instead of an update? i'm still pissed about paying for FCS 3-- sure, i use the new markers and work a lot with ProRes 4444. the ichat theater is also a cute feature for prosumers, but in retrospect i was fine with FCS 2 for the cost of the upgrade. it was so lame that i expected a .5 upgrade within months. ::checks watch::
 
backdraft said:
I use shake, modo, houdini, Final Cut Studio, CS4 Master, cinema 4D, Maya, nuke, and realflow just fine on my macbook pro. I also run them on my Mac Pro, Mac Mini and old Powermac G5 (well not the intel only ones) depending on the project.

When I'm not in 3D, video/compositing land. I'm coding or maintaining servers.

I wear many hats as well as others like z4n3

Sure it gets crazy but its fun! :D
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:D Nice to see I am not the only strange FUNNY!! person here :rolleyes:

p.s.

I forgot to put FCS, Cobalt , After effects, PhotoShop CS4/CS5 illustrator CS4/CS5 & Vue :cool: but when I want to really brag about the programs I have! I bring out the BIG guns!!! I have a BETA of Firefox!!! :D
 
OH!!! and for anyone here!! who is a long time Mac user!!! I have the original 10.0 BOMB.app :D has a hell of a lot more bragging rights than any program I use for work!!! :cool:


Mac_OS_X_Public_Beta
 
Fomaphone said:
why the hell was FCP 7 an upgrade instead of an update?
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You're not the only one wondering about it. Even more so if you compare FCP 4 to FCP HD free "update" which really was an upgrade. Then again I'm wondering what an earth were FCP dev team doing between NAB 2007 and July 2009 when FCS 3 was released. I truly do hope Apple announces new FCP very soon with feature set matching or exceeding MC 5.

Regarding the general quality of FCS apps, in all honesty Motion and Soundtrack Pro have been failures from the start. I would be much more happy to see KICK-ASS (in real world terms, no Apple talk) FCP, Compressor and "Blu-ray" Studio then some odd collection of Pro apps with some development resource eating crap apps strapped in for entertainment. Hell, kill Motion and bring back Shake as separate app.
 
backdraft said:
I use shake, modo, houdini, Final Cut Studio, CS4 Master, cinema 4D, Maya, nuke, and realflow just fine on my macbook pro.
When I'm not in 3D, video/compositing land. I'm coding or maintaining servers.
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That sounds like a competition - who has more packages installed...
There is simply no way you can be good at all those things.
You should pick what you really like and try to become good at it.
When you grow up, you'll thank me for this advice.
 
snowboarder said:
You should pick what you really like and try to become good at it.
When you grow up, you'll thank me for this advice.
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Perhaps when you enter the workforce, you might realize that many people have to wear many hats to stay employed. On top of that, they are quite good at all of them.

Shocking, I know.
 
PeterQVenkman said:
Perhaps when you enter the workforce, you might realize that many people have to wear many hats to stay employed. On top of that, they are quite good at all of them.

Shocking, I know.
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Maya itself covers 4-5 separate professions (modeling, rigging, textures,
animation, lighting). If someone tells me he's good at nuke and shake,
I'm buying it. Flame (smoke), nuke and shake - that's fine.
But if someone tells me he's good at smoke, shake, nuke and final cut
and maya and houdini (!) and he's a td (coding) - sorry, but I'm really
suspicious and probably don't hire him...
 
snowboarder said:
Maya itself covers 4-5 separate professions (modeling, rigging, textures,
animation, lighting). If someone tells me he's good at nuke and shake,
I'm buying it. Flame (smoke), nuke and shake - that's fine.
But if someone tells me he's good at smoke, shake, nuke and final cut
and maya and houdini (!) and he's a td (coding) - sorry, but I'm really
suspicious and probably don't hire him...
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I have to come clean! I am not GOOD at any of the programs I use!! :eek:

if you ask me if I am AMAZING!!! well now we are talking! :cool:

I have used the programs on a DAILY basis for more time than I care to remember! all of them from day one when they first came out! and to keep in this game AND keep your job, you have to have a few things

1.Creativity
2.Jack of all trades (good at them)
3.CONSTANTLY training and keeping ahead of others
4.Perfectionist
5.A love for what you do
6.Always be open to learn something new and do not think you know it all.
7.A nicely formed head so when you change hats it fits perfectly :D


I have all of the above, hence I am good with all the programs I use. and thanxs to BACKDRAFT's advice...today bought Houdini Master and REALFLOW so have two more programs I have never used in my life to learn and master! :D so instead of criticizing (SO EASY) ask questions and try to learn something from others! :p

look at my signature and look up what it means in English....there are loads of Latin to English dictionaries out there...

p.d. LOVE THE GOOGLE PACMAN!!! :D (wish they would leave it there)
 
my signature

Bonus est hostes hostium excellentia,talentum haud est necesse pro excellentia,perseverantia est necesse pro excellentia,quod per est a sententia
 
This is a fantastic post, attitude, and advice. Now get the heck off of Macrumors forums, clear-headed talented professional individuals are discouraged from posting here.

;)

Just kidding, keep it up man -- I absolutely find that I have some frighteningly savant-esque clients who are ridiculously good at so many types of applications and tools, it's scary. Sure, it's a minority of users, but this is what separates real pros who are at the top of their game, from your average Joe Creative who really knows very little about the tools and technologies that make up the modern digital media toolset.


z4n3 said:
I have to come clean! I am not GOOD at any of the programs I use!! :eek:

if you ask me if I am AMAZING!!! well now we are talking! :cool:

I have used the programs on a DAILY basis for more time than I care to remember! all of them from day one when they first came out! and to keep in this game AND keep your job, you have to have a few things

1.Creativity
2.Jack of all trades (good at them)
3.CONSTANTLY training and keeping ahead of others
4.Perfectionist
5.A love for what you do
6.Always be open to learn something new and do not think you know it all.
7.A nicely formed head so when you change hats it fits perfectly :D


I have all of the above, hence I am good with all the programs I use. and thanxs to BACKDRAFT's advice...today bought Houdini Master and REALFLOW so have two more programs I have never used in my life to learn and master! :D so instead of criticizing (SO EASY) ask questions and try to learn something from others! :p

look at my signature and look up what it means in English....there are loads of Latin to English dictionaries out there...

p.d. LOVE THE GOOGLE PACMAN!!! :D (wish they would leave it there)
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Nicky G said:
This is a fantastic post, attitude, and advice. Now get the heck off of Macrumors forums, clear-headed talented professional individuals are discouraged from posting here.

;)

Just kidding, keep it up man -- I absolutely find that I have some frighteningly savant-esque clients who are ridiculously good at so many types of applications and tools, it's scary. Sure, it's a minority of users, but this is what separates real pros who are at the top of their game, from your average Joe Creative who really knows very little about the tools and technologies that make up the modern digital media toolset.
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Control the programs with my mind!!! NOW WE ARE TALKING!!! :D
 
Its pretty easy to use any of the programs after you learn the concepts behind the work. Toolsets come and go. Shake/Nuke, Houdini/Maya, Premiere/Final Cut Pro, SoundBooth/Soundtrack etc... These are more similar then different. I use different apps according to the project at hand.

I do have core apps that I prefer, and others that I work in more often versus others.

The intention was not to "compete", but to merely point out that I have multiple high-ends apps running fine on Snow Leopard even side by side at times. Yes, I have a wide toolset which adds versatility but it no way does this imply lack of "maturity". I'm just more curious then others and interested in learning as much as possible. I'm pretty good tin all the aforementioned apps. Pro level in all? Not yet, but I can hold my own with the toolset as it lends to flexibility as each app has their pros/cons over others. Again, learn concepts then tools after all theory is harder to grasp then actual practice. Build the foundation, then the rest will come easier that you think.

I recommend Ron's book the Art and Science of Digital Compositing as a start: http://www.digitalcompositing.com/






snowboarder said:
That sounds like a competition - who has more packages installed...
There is simply no way you can be good at all those things.
You should pick what you really like and try to become good at it.
When you grow up, you'll thank me for this advice.
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BTW there is plenty of scripting in 3D and compositing apps Mel, Python, Lua etc... Web Development is not too far a leap.

Its not that hard to code and be creative its rare, but possible. I'm lucky I guess.


snowboarder said:
Maya itself covers 4-5 separate professions (modeling, rigging, textures,
animation, lighting). If someone tells me he's good at nuke and shake,
I'm buying it. Flame (smoke), nuke and shake - that's fine.
But if someone tells me he's good at smoke, shake, nuke and final cut
and maya and houdini (!) and he's a td (coding) - sorry, but I'm really
suspicious and probably don't hire him...
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