No, Sir, I do not agree with you wholeheartedly.
I find that it's not Apple problem to fix human sensibility issue, especially the one who took Android as an example for the rest of us to follow.
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No, Sir, I do not agree with you wholeheartedly.
I find that it's not Apple problem to fix human sensibility issue, especially the one who took Android as an example for the rest of us to follow.
Haha well I don't think I will be seeing that popup again. The app looks different now that ive reinstalled the app (how it is suppose to look)
Interesting play on words, the point is the official AppStore has been compromised, Chinese store not big enough, not official enough?
Why are you lumbering the offical Chinese AppStore with untrusted sources and jailbroken devices? does putting Chinese in front of AppStore make you feel better that the AppStore was not compromised?
News flash, the AppStore was compromised, or do you believe the Chinese AppStore uses lesser procedures and safeguard ? Wrong, exactly the same.
I'd say watch this space .
I don't think Apple is liable anyway for security vulnerabilities.
My phone has been temporarily bricked by updates in the past. Same with my Mac. I have very good reason to prefer updating when I have the time to take that risk rather than immediately when Apple releases a new version, especially because an X.0 version will likely be less stable than the previous mature release.
Mac stops working due to a friggin' update => hundreds of dollars of lost productivity on my end and/or inability to meet school obligations. If Apple starts forcing auto updates, I WILL find a way to disable it by force, or else I'll switch because that'll make OS X a non-viable option. But I doubt they'll do that anyway.
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Well, the chance of an update messing up your phone is probably much higher than the chance of malware messing up your phone, so I agree with their reasoning. You usually have to be some combination of
- using a jailbroken phone
- being in China
- downloading apps from untrusted sources
- unlucky
- gullible
to be a victim of malware attacks. Sure, if you keep sensitive information on your phone, you should stay up-to-date anyway, but not everyone does. I'll bet most do not.
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I don't see anything ambiguous or grammatically incorrect in this sentence.
Apple has terrible update policy. Microsoft still supports Windows XP which is 12 years old and widely used out there. Apple should learn something from that, allow customers to downgrade to every compatible OS and provide security and bugfixes to every OS they made in last 20 years. That would be customer care.
Bottom line: I wouldn't recommend buying Apple product to anyone who wants to make a long-term investment. And I would advice against upgrading OS to the next version, because it'll render device less usable than it was before the update.
Bottom line: I wouldn't recommend buying Apple product to anyone who wants to make a long-term investment. And I would advice against upgrading OS to the next version, because it'll render device less usable than it was before the update.
Good for people who have lots of money. I'm still using an iPad first generation and an iPod touch 4G. They're still perfectly functioning - a bit slow but still very good for my needs. So, I'd have to spend $500 just for fun and send these machines to the garbage pail and soil the environment so that Apple makes more money? Who are you kidding? If they still can support my old iMac 2007 and make it compatible with El Capitan, there is no reason they can't make older IOS equipment compatible. It's just that they don't want to.
Consideing MS doesn't really do any of that.. I hope it's sarcasm... XP even patched to the hilt is a security nightmare best left for horror shows ;-).
I'll agree with the chorus here that Apple's update policy has not been all rainbows and unicorns. Each release of iOS has slowed down my iPad 3 despite being "fully" compatible and talk from Apple that they had improved responsiveness in the older devices. Apple needs to recognize that upgrades of older hardware need to be done with more caution, especially if they are supporting existing workflows and upgrading large installations take time. Apple has no official policy to support ANY previous OS release, not even major -1 and that is a problem.
Case and point was the root-pipe exploit which Apple became aware of in the leadup to release of 10.10 ( while 10.9 was still current ). They never patched it in 10.9 leaving many gun-shy, enterprise, and schools scrambling to do a mid-year major version upgrade. Heck, they didn't even patch it until 10.10.3! Despite being aware of this major exploit for their OS they ignored it and eventually just wrote off 10.9 users. This is untenable for a company that wants to be taken seriously on security and longevity.
I don't care about other operating systems, I care about iOS and OS X and when you can barely even support security patches on 1 previous revision of the OS then there is a problem.
Case and point was the root-pipe exploit which Apple became aware of in the leadup to release of 10.10 ( while 10.9 was still current ). They never patched it in 10.9 leaving many gun-shy, enterprise, and schools scrambling to do a mid-year major version upgrade. Heck, they didn't even patch it until 10.10.3! Despite being aware of this major exploit for their OS they ignored it and eventually just wrote off 10.9 users. This is untenable for a company that wants to be taken seriously on security and longevity.
I don't care about other operating systems, I care about iOS and OS X and when you can barely even support security patches on 1 previous revision of the OS then there is a problem.
If so, that's a shame. The internet needs many more such spots. If MacRumors is "the" go to spot we need to generate more of them, and quickly.
Microsoft ended XP support in April 2014, unless you're willing to spend a lot of money with them, but you are right that Apple is not interested in long term security update strategies. It even appears that Apple is done supporting any version of OS X prior to 10.11 with security updates.
Two different business models: Legacy code is important to corporate IT, but it stifles innovation. Microsoft can't be nimble because it makes its money selling to IT. Apple doesn't have to worry about that.
First off, Windows Phone 7 was not their first attempt in any way whatsoever. Second, the issue here is that people are denying it happened...I own a Windows 10 phone right now, I don't need anyone to explain to me what's going on.
I'm not saying that he isn't interested in making more sales to the enterprise. There is some money to be made there, but only if they're careful to do it on their terms, not IT's. Apple has been and should be cautious about that market: extra sales are nice in the short term, but if they kill your strategic advantage they're not worth it.
Chinese Apple App Store was compromised because some lazy Chinese developer downloaded a compromised fake Xcode.
China... Every time it's China involved ...
They had reasons to not supporting Windows Phone 7 hardware for Windows 8, and they gave 7.5 to extend supported period.
After that they changed everything, with WP 8 and 8.1 supported by 4 years old very cheap models.
Very very different from android world...
What ever the case maybe, at the end of the life style they were selling it a discounted price and customers knew that they were getting an out of date cut price phone with a limited lifespan. It is difficult to feel sorry for people who voluntarily go out of their way to purchase a cut price phone the are surprised that their support period isn't very long.
You mean 7.8 not 7.5. Of course they had reasons, many reasons, none of them really matter to the person with the less than a year old phone in their hand.
Nobody said it was the same as the android world...nice strawman.
So far, "Windows Phone 7 was their first attempt", "they had reasons", "it's not android". These are excuses, if I were like the person who already incorrectly judged me in this thread, I would call you a "Microsoft follower" and that I can't take you seriously now.
Meanwhile, Android and Windows Phone have left phones just a year old with no further patches...forever.
Your words dude, not mine. You put android and Windows phone in the same basket....
Me a Microsoft follower ? Lol, you really don't know who I am...
You either completely missed or ignored the point that the official AppStore was compromised.
Processes and procedures mate, that apple own.
Thank god there are no lazy Europeans eh......
are you kidding me lol...
That was a factual statement about a single event...not "Meanwhile, Android and Windows Phones continue to do bad things similarly".
I would never say that about you, was just showing the ridiculousness of judging a person by a statement you disagree with then dismissing their opinion.