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I think they have a case if the employee handbook doesn't state the policy. If it does, they chose to work there, and knew what they were being subject to.

Wrong. No one can "sign away" their rights under the law simply by agreeing to an employment contract. Otherwise, companies could say "our policy is that we pay $2 per hour, regardless of the minimum wage law" and get away with it.

Statute requires that hourly employees be paid for their time. If the company chooses to have them stand in line for a bag check, they can do that. They just have to pay for it.
 
If as someone else stated, it is in the policy handbook that states that Apple will specifically perform said action AFTER you are clocked out IF you choose to bring a bag to work anyway, and you SIGNED the contract abiding to the agreement knowing full well what would be occurring then I honestly do not see how you can THEN complain about it.

If you A) Didn't like the verbiage IN the contract before you signed it to start working there then DO NOT work there and B) Did not want to abide by the contract stating that there would be extra time to search the bag after clocking out then you DO NOT bring a bag to work.

You simply cannot AGREE to everything stated they were going to do as an Employer in the handbook and then cry about it later. That is WHY the handbooks and policy guides are created - so you know "exactly what is expected of you while being employed BEFORE you agree to work there."

You can if anything in those terms is deemed illegal. And quite often, those things are decided retrospectively, because laws surrounding these things can, and do, change.
 
If you can't trust your own employees than who can you trust?

These bag checks are ridiculous. It would make more sense to simply review security footage if shrinkage occurs and nail ACTUAL thieves, instead of suspecting everyone.

Thank goodness many people have a sense of humor because I just KNOW you're joking. :eek:
 
Key here is required.you aren't required to bring a bag of personal belongings into work.

Hmmm Does anyone know if Employees are allowed to wear their uniforms outside of work? Does Apple launder their shirts? Are employees expected to just carry their shirts over their shoulders to and from work.

Honest questions...
 
Again I state.. People like you are the reason the middle class is disappearing. Keep whining about every little thing thinking you are entitled to the world. You don't have to bring your bag with you on every break and lets be real, you are not losing 5 minutes every time. Also every employee is not making $20 an hour they are more likely making about $10 an hour. You are arguing about minutes a week, literally a few dollars a pay check quit acting like you are losing an hour of work a day. People hear that it took 5 minutes one time and assume they get to act like they lose 5 minutes of pay for every break. Also you only clock out for a lunch break and when you go home so again your point is moot. You are not losing $500 a year. Get over yourself

Wow! No. You have it backwards. Apple is required to pay you for every minute of your time. Just like you are required to be at work for all the time you are on the clock. If you aren't on the clock, you don't have to stay. That is just simple labor law.
 
Nice Strawman. They don't think they're entitled to "The World" as you put it. It's the principle, the company is forcing you to stay on your own time, in a busy Apple store potentially cutting your break in half. They are dictating to you how you spend your time off, which they are not allowed to do. In a busy Apple Store yes you could be losing half an hour a day. For someone who works a lot of days they could be losing a days pay every 2 weeks, 2 days a month. 24 days pay a year. That's potentially nearly a months pay lost a year. Obviously this is a worse case scenario but it still stands.

If you're perfectly to bend over and take it, having your free time dictated to by a company who isnt even paying you while they do it, feel free. but don't drag everyone with you.

This is why you think you are entitled to the world. Nobody is telling you how to spend your time. You can not bring a bag to work and you won't have to spend time doing anything extra. However if you choose to bring a bag, you might spend a few minutes for them to search it. This is purely your choice. Once you realize that and stop blaming a company for your choice you will see
 
It is not analogous to a traffic jam at all. According to the suit, Apple forces people to undergo a security check everytime an employee exits the store whether it be to leave for the day or for a break. If an employee has to wait for a manager after he or she has punched out, that could take significant time every day.

Only those people that bring a bag by their OWN CHOICE KNOWING IT HAS TO BE CHECKED
 
First, all the negative lawyer comments are only funny until you get your ass in a sling and need one of us.

Second, it can't go back ten years. Statute of Limitations is 6 years. And to the moron that was shocked that there are damages, when you don't get paid, you accrue damages. For example, New York gives you 25% of your lost wages and FLSA give 100%. You could make 225% of what your owed in New York. So damages...yes, there are. Wage and hour violations are serious. The attorneys on this are going to make way more than the class given it is quarter hour issues at best.
 
Bingo. And in fact many if not most Apple Stores have an offsite break room with lockers, refrigerators etc for your stuff. And since you can't access the stock room and such there is no bag chek requirement

That doesn't help if you need to bring a bag to work with your lunch in it, you store it in your locker with your lunch in the fridge, you'll need to take the bag home with you.

Key here is required.you aren't required to bring a bag of personal belongings into work.

Irrelevant
If as someone else stated, it is in the policy handbook that states that Apple will specifically perform said action AFTER you are clocked out IF you choose to bring a bag to work anyway, and you SIGNED the contract abiding to the agreement knowing full well what would be occurring then I honestly do not see how you can THEN complain about it.

If you A) Didn't like the verbiage IN the contract before you signed it to start working there then DO NOT work there and B) Did not want to abide by the contract stating that there would be extra time to search the bag after clocking out then you DO NOT bring a bag to work.

You simply cannot AGREE to everything stated they were going to do as an Employer in the handbook and then cry about it later. That is WHY the handbooks and policy guides are created - so you know "exactly what is expected of you while being employed BEFORE you agree to work there."

It's not the search that's the issue. A bag search can take 30 seconds. It's the 15 minutes of them keeping you waiting, while they aren't searching your bag that's the issue here.

This is why you think you are entitled to the world. Nobody is telling you how to spend your time. You can not bring a bag to work and you won't have to spend time doing anything extra. However if you choose to bring a bag, you might spend a few minutes for them to search it. This is purely your choice. Once you realize that and stop blaming a company for your choice you will see

Again, since when did a single basic right become "The World"? Apple IS telling you how to spend you're time, they're forcing you to wait on your own time. While your bag isnt even being searched. A search is over very quickly, it's the 15 minutes of waiting around doing nothing that is the issue here. Try and leave without the search, they can't. Apple is keeping them there. Ergo telling them to remain there until searched. Some people will NEED to bring in bags. Even then, that is not the point. Apple searching you if you bring a bag is not the point. Apple keeping you waiting for that period of time before you even get searched is the problem.

Only those people that bring a bag by their OWN CHOICE KNOWING IT HAS TO BE CHECKED

Oh my God, it's like talking to a Brick Wall.
 
You can bring a plastic or paper bag. They don't check your bag coming into work. Only leaving so throw your bag away after your done eating your lunch. Problem solved. People always have to say omg I can't do it without this or how will I live without that. Use your creaking brain once and a while. There are plenty of viable solutions to your problems. You're just too lazy and entitling to consider them.

Yep. That's the solution. Pay for the things to throw away every day. It's fiscally sound. People on low income jobs should definitely purchase and use disposable items on a regular basis instead of buying on bag and using it to carry everything. Buy disposable cutlery. Disposable coffee cups.

And, again, those with diabetes are unlikely to find your solution covers their needs.
 
A real boss would open his or her bag to show workers they aren't stealing either.... In a place like Japan, perhaps, or other lands beyond U.S. comprehension.
 
You can bring a plastic or paper bag. They don't check your bag coming into work. Only leaving so throw your bag away after your done eating your lunch. Problem solved. People always have to say omg I can't do it without this or how will I live without that. Use your creaking brain once and a while. There are plenty of viable solutions to your problems. You're just too lazy and entitling to consider them.

What are you talking about? I don't just have plastig bags lying around the house, certainly not in the amount that I can dispose of everytime I leave work. Do I have to start buying those? Please, I've already mentioned female employee's need tampons throughout the day, are they supposed to put them in with the lunch? You're assuming I am "lazy" while actually in the past I used the pockets of my jacket to put my lunchbags in. But it's around 25 degrees these days so that's kind of not an option. It's got nothing to do with being lazy or entitled.
 
Yep. That's the solution. Pay for the things to throw away every day. It's fiscally sound. People on low income jobs should definitely purchase and use disposable items on a regular basis instead of buying on bag and using it to carry everything. Buy disposable cutlery. Disposable coffee cups.

And, again, those with diabetes are unlikely to find your solution covers their needs.

you get plastic bags for free at the grocery store...

and you could buy probably thousands of paper lunch bags for the price of a backpack
 
Again I state.. People like you are the reason the middle class is disappearing. Keep whining about every little thing thinking you are entitled to the world. You don't have to bring your bag with you on every break and lets be real, you are not losing 5 minutes every time. Also every employee is not making $20 an hour they are more likely making about $10 an hour. You are arguing about minutes a week, literally a few dollars a pay check quit acting like you are losing an hour of work a day. People hear that it took 5 minutes one time and assume they get to act like they lose 5 minutes of pay for every break. Also you only clock out for a lunch break and when you go home so again your point is moot. You are not losing $500 a year. Get over yourself

wow. People like you are the reason the upper class is expanding - they exploit the working class to continue amassing huge amounts of wealth, one dollar or one cent at a time. You say workers should "get over" themselves and not whine about "every little thing". Believe me, the corporation IS concerned with every little thing, and this policy is due to a calculated decision to maximize profit. So shouldn't you tell the corporation to "get over" itself? Shouldn't the corporation "quit acting like" they are losing considerable profit and just pay what they owe? No? Why is it okay for the corporation to squeeze every cent out of its workers, but its not okay for the workers to ask to be compensated for EVERY SECOND of their time?
 
That you are NOT required to bring to work.if you choose to do so then that's on you

The problem with that is during the winter when it's cold and you are FORCED to bring a jacket to work they have to check your jacket on the way out. When its 0 degrees out and snowing you don't have much of a choice on bringing a coat to work.
 
My employer's computers take soooo long to boot up. And I am forced to wait for them to load before I can clock in. Time to sue for 10 years of backpay.

Not even CLOSE to the same situation. Clocking in on time is your responsibility so that has nothing to do with the companies computers. They are being forced to wait AFTER they clock out... see the difference?
 
Wow! No. You have it backwards. Apple is required to pay you for every minute of your time. Just like you are required to be at work for all the time you are on the clock. If you aren't on the clock, you don't have to stay. That is just simple labor law.

like i have said before, i don't get paid for the time it takes to get through the security gate at my work... why should you get paid for the time it takes you to get through security at your work? We all have to do it, and it's literally maybe a minute or two a day max on most days.... not like you're losing some huge amount of money. On most days it would amount to pennies. You guys act like they are working all day for free.
 
I agree. And the whole "just don't bring a bag" thing can get into other legal areas of gender inequality and women's needs to have purses for personal items that men don't have to worry about monthly...

Us women generally know how many we need. Bring it in a paper bag, use them, trash the bag. Got one extra, shove it in a pocket. Walk past the managers with visible empty hands, totally caught in the security cameras as well.no waiting
 
The pitfalls of retail.

- minimum wages
- minimum break times
- your time is their time
- forget about a social life
- miss that bus or train because they want to inspect your bags.

It's not just Apple doing this, it's across the board these days. Perhaps if retailers treated their staff with the respect they expect to be treated with by their staff sales would improve.

Just sayin' :rolleyes:
 
Yep. That's the solution. Pay for the things to throw away every day. It's fiscally sound. People on low income jobs should definitely purchase and use disposable items on a regular basis instead of buying on bag and using it to carry everything. Buy disposable cutlery. Disposable coffee cups.

And, again, those with diabetes are unlikely to find your solution covers their needs.

What are you talking about? I don't just have plastig bags lying around the house, certainly not in the amount that I can dispose of everytime I leave work. Do I have to start buying those? Please, I've already mentioned female employee's need tampons throughout the day, are they supposed to put them in with the lunch? You're assuming I am "lazy" while actually in the past I used the pockets of my jacket to put my lunchbags in. But it's around 25 degrees these days so that's kind of not an option. It's got nothing to do with being lazy or entitled.

I love his proposition though. It TOTALLY speaks to Apple's desire to be as GREEN as possible :rolleyes::eek:
 
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