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I guess the iPad isn't worthless with all these HTML 5 sites and over a million sold. I bet they will sell two million in the time it took for the iPhone to sell a million. But the iPhone did not have as many features and Apple had a lot less customers. If it wasn't for the iPhone I would never have bought a Mac and I know a lot of people that would agree with that.

yea, im the same as you, love my iphone, except when my friends steal t and facebook rape me :mad: :D:D
 
I have a hard time believing Apple truly doesn't have any way to create more than they are already making.

So say they can produce more. How many would you have their production line start this week?

If you predict too high by the time they arrive in several weeks, a billion dollars of inventory might end up sitting on the dock, unsold. That represents the interest $1B could have been earning from investments instead. If you volunteer to be production forecaster, Guido and Lars will be visiting you to collect the lost interest from you personally, followed by the shareholders.

Still want to play?
 
Actually the article mentions WIFI versions too and if you want to discount it like tickle me elmo that's fine. But i think your wrong. Alot of universities are using ipad's now and there are thousands of things you can do with it.

IMO the only reason the ipad would be a giant ipod touch is if you use it as one.

I Draw on mine, I make notes , Update my blog ,Read the actual full print of the newspaper on the pressreader app (Which would be hard to do on an ipod touch), Not to mention dozens of other things,Watch movies on Netflix.

A Device is what you make of it if you let it sit there and do nothing then it will be nothing. But the ipad is opening up portable possibilities.

And if it was truly just a big ipod touch i doubt people would spend hundreds of dollars on it, That it would have been mentioned all over TV which is something that the ipod touch never got, And that if it was a Giant ipod touch that it wouuld have sold out

Well, you have to admit that there is nothing really DIFFERENT about the iPad from the Touch OTHER than size. I'm not undermining the importance of size, but it's certainly not groundbreaking in any way. Size makes it easier to see things and have more room for things like games, but I regularly read books, watch movies, play games, and run 90% of the iPad type apps on my iPhone, so it's not like it increases functionality that much, at least for me.

And the reason it's all over TV is because of the HYPE - it was all over TV BEFORE anyone actually owned one, so that's no attestation to quality. There's nothing bad or good about that - but marketing is certainly the reason for the media and consumer FRENZY, something that Apple is a master at creating (again, that's not good or bad). The iPod Touch never got the same press because it was overshadowed by the iPhone - because it was the exact same thing that did less (i.e. no phone).

Once again, I do LIKE my iPad. But after using it for a week I actually see less and less use for it. My arms get tired using it as a book reader unless I'm laying it on my lap or a table (it's WAY too heavy to hold up for any period of time). It's not powerful enough for most software I want to run. It's not as good at games as my PSP. It doesn't have enough storage for all the media I want on it (heck, my iPod Classic holds 160 GB - almost 3 times as much). It has no real file system no any universal way to connect devices to it (i.e. USB). And no flash makes it less than idea for Web browsing. And since I can't put it in my pocket like my iPhone, I might as well have my laptop with me instead because I need to carry a backpack anyway. So my own initial excitement has already worn down a whole lot.

We'll see how it goes in a few months. I'm not wishing it success or failure, just commenting based on how I feel it's going to go.

Tony
 
Not sure what folks are getting so excited about...

1 mil in the first month is very dismal sale considering the hype around this device. I was expecting a lot more considering the size of the Apple core fun base.

It did not hurt netbook sales at all. Netbook demand is steady ~8 mil/month even after a more than a year since introduction. Netbook sales does not grows like crazy anymore vs. last year, but it sales way better than iPad.

iPad did not kill MS or HP or any other tablets. I think MS and HP wisely and timely left this dead end form factor. Apple iPad confirmed it for them.
 
Not making enough = demand above expectations.

You think marketing is the only reason Apple is succeeding? :rolleyes: Think again.

Exactly. I think when you've sold over a million of a brand new, untested product in less than a month, it's probably a fair bet that the short supply is not a marketing ploy. I'm amazing anyone actually interprets it that way. :rolleyes:

Of course, after Palm's blatant attempt to wring some headlines out of the Pre and its "limited supply" (which we all now know was a load of dung) you can't really blame people for being jaded.
 
Well, call me one of the skeptical ones but I held my reservations as I also was very very skeptical about the iphone (I had an ipaq at the time, didn't want a phone/PDA combo, and was like, that thing has a smaller screen, blah blah blah, I don't get it) and now I have one and absolutely love it (of course this is after my laptop replaced my ipaq). So I learned my lesson about putting someting down before I actually try it (Or maybe I did ;) ).

I still don't see the use of the ipad for me honestly. It's got a very pretty screen, I like the book reader, but it's size makes it so that anywhere I'd take it I would take my laptop (and I'm sorry, I'm not replacing my laptop with an ipad. That would mean having to get a desktop too or just not having a full computer. My laptop is just too multifunctional as my computer that is also portable). And I have an iphone for taking anywhere I would need something more portable.

That being said I'm happy Apple is doing well with it. Especially when I read testimonials of people who have decided to buy a Mac computer after having an iphone or what not (really I am a Macintosh fan over being an Apple fan. They get rid of the Mac, I'd be upset enough to even think of just outright boycotting them).

Which does make me nervous cause some people hint that Apple seems less interested in their computer. I hope not cause I much prefer using Mac OS than Windows.

(And I'll mention that I didn't even know about the ipad until all my mac hating friends were talking about how useless it was when it was announced on their facebook. My thoughts was, ok, but do you guys realize that's all I've been seeing on my facebook all today is about the ipad. They sure do seem to have you all talking about it even if it is negative stuff. They managed to really get publicity out on it).
 
1 mil in the first month is very dismal sale considering the hype around this device. I was expecting a lot more considering size of the Apple "junkies" base.

It did not hurt netbook sales at all. Netbook demand is steady ~8 mil/month even after a more than a year since introduction. Netbook sales does not grows like crazy anymore vs. last year, but it sales way better than iPad.

iPad did not kill MS or HP or any other tablets. I think MS and HP wisely and timely left this dead end form factor. Apple iPad confirmed it for them.


I don't 100% agree with this, but I see your point. This form factor has been around a LONG time with UMPCs and MID. They totally fizzled. The reason is very simple - this is a portable device that people want to use INSTANTLY, SIMPLY and for long periods of time. As such, it has to be "instant on" and have a LONG battery life. The UMPC's and MID's ran Windows that took like 3-4 minutes just to boot and were slow running apps, not touch friendly, and had short battery life. Then netbooks came along to try to fill this void and solved some of those problems but not the most important "instant on" and touch friendly simple apps issues. The iPhone / smartphones had everything that people really wanted, but they are just too SMALL for some things like reading. The initial problem with the non-iPad slates like HP that were proposed is that they mostly ran Win7 desktop O/S which still does not give you instant-on no touch friendly simple apps. So they backed down to rethink it through.

So for now the iPad fills this gap in the market. We ARE going to see a rush of slates being redesigned to use instant-on O/S's from smart-phones (Android, WM7, etc) and those will more readily complete with the iPad. But I still think this market has a short life, as did the UMPC, MIDs and Netbooks. I think what will eventually come out of this is much lighter full powered laptops that are much more touch friendly.

That said, I'd love to see a bigger iPhone that takes the place of the iPad. I think a 5" HD screen iPhone would still fit in my pocket and have a lot of the advantages the iPad has without having to carry around yet ANOTHER device.

Tony
 
You really think they're shipping by sea? Doubt it.

I am sure there are going to be some heavy freight air transports to select locations only for a small minority. I am sure the bulk are going your regular cargo sea route. When you look at consumer electronics, cost of delivery is a big part of the overall cost.
 
Exactly to my point


Please, read it for your own sake. It says Netbook sale GROWS decelerating and GROWS slow down started in October 2009. It is plausible due to maturity of the product. BTW, iPad was not even around.

GROWS means they do not sell more than before, but they sale as much as before and it is very healthy 8 mil/month volume.

BTW, iPod sales grows decelerating too - should Apple abandon it?

It is funny how people read what they want to read, or hear what they want to hear...

I think, netbooks should worry about Ultra Low Power CPU notebooks. They are very reasonably priced and beat any netbook.
 
This is awesome and even though the nay sayers will be pulling their hair out to find rebuttals to discredit this news.

The iPad is a total success love it or hate it and i love mine :p

I have to say it too. IMO, the iPad is going to move computer use to a crowd and scene off the desktop and into much more casual use.

The inevitable Windows 7, Andriod and probably HP / webOS tablet or pad offerings are going to be interesting.
 
Ok I took a hit on the wifi 64GB that I was able to score over my "most expensive" lunch ever on 4/26. :) Thought that I would be able to live with wifi only - but could not. :( So at 6:10PM on 4/30 I was able to score a 64GB 3G with no standing in line. :D And will never look back at the 10% re-stock fee.

Just don't understand why Apple is going international on the 28th in nine countries if they can't meet the demand here in the US. :confused:
 
rmatthewware said:
Be careful, the iPad could have been a dud. How many people do you know who has or wants an AppleTV. Apple has misfired before.

Actually the AppleTV has sold exceptionally well, especially considering it is just a "hobby". In fact the AppleTV sales were announced March 2010 as being up 35% over last year. While exact sales are not made public, analysts have said sales are "impressive".

Google it. AppleTV is hardly a failure. In fact, I personally know quite a few people with one, and I personally love mine!
 
Please, read it for your own sake. It says Netbook sale GROWS decelerating and GROWS slow down started in October 2009. It is plausible due to maturity of the product. BTW, iPad was not even around.

GROWS means they do not sell more than before, but they sale as much as before and it is very healthy 8 mil/month volume.

BTW, iPod sales grows decelerating too - should Apple abandon it?

It is funny how people read what they want to read, or hear what they want to hear...

I think, netbooks should worry about Ultra Low Power CPU notebooks. They are very reasonably priced and beat any netbook.

I know exactly what it says and I didn't say anything about the iPad killing netbook sales, did I? It would be foolish to use the stats in that article to make such an argument.

You, on the other hand, made the claim that the iPad has affected netbook sales not one iota. And while it's true that sales of netbooks are still growing, the rate of growth has dropped off precipitously since the introduction of the iPad--and this after a year of analysts repeatedly telling us the market for netbooks was just taking off. Me, I have no opinion on it one way or the other, but you have expressed a definitive opinion that it can't be the iPad.

Unless it's a bizarre coincidence, the numbers beg to differ. Your beef lies with the statistics, not with me. Do you have some sales or marketing statistics to counter what the article seems to indicate? I'd be interested in seeing them?
 
1 mil in the first month is very dismal sale considering the hype around this device. I was expecting a lot more considering the size of the Apple core fun base.

It did not hurt netbook sales at all. Netbook demand is steady ~8 mil/month even after a more than a year since introduction. Netbook sales does not grows like crazy anymore vs. last year, but it sales way better than iPad.

iPad did not kill MS or HP or any other tablets. I think MS and HP wisely and timely left this dead end form factor. Apple iPad confirmed it for them.

Guess you missed this front page news: "Huberty also cites data from March showing that 44% of surveyed consumers who were planning to purchase an iPad were doing so instead of purchasing a notebook or netbook computer, the largest category of cannibalized products. Notably, over half of those customers were planning to purchase an iPad instead of an Apple notebook, with the remainder forgoing a non-Apple netbook or notebook."
 
Shipping

I work for UPS air in Louisville and I can guarantee you that they're not coming across the ocean on a boat. They're coming across on a 747-400 for us or a MD11 for FedEx. We did the rollout for the first WIFI and had some hiccups with customs data. Fedex did the 3G recent rollout. As we speak we are bringing Ipods, Iphones, Ipads and all the Mac products across the Pacific daily for Apple. It is expensive to ship air but in the quantity that Apple is doing it, it is obviously more affordable on a per unit basis. Apple also does an incredible job on minimizing the packaging which results in less shipping cost. A couple bucks a pound from Asia for bulk air is a little cheap but not but a huge amount.

And on the original question.....our Aple store here in Louisville here was out of WIFI's forever but got another shipment in with the arrival of the 3G's. Best Buy was out too. Both are CONSTANTLY packed with people on every iPad.....
 
Guess you missed this front page news: "Huberty also cites data from March showing that 44% of surveyed consumers who were planning to purchase an iPad were doing so instead of purchasing a notebook or netbook computer, the largest category of cannibalized products. Notably, over half of those customers were planning to purchase an iPad instead of an Apple notebook, with the remainder forgoing a non-Apple netbook or notebook."

If you asked me or anyone who bought iPhone, I would find plenty of reasons to support this decision. I would not expect from folks who bought iPad to suggest against it as they apparently made their choice in favor of iPad. With the same methodology applied to 8x more folks who bought netbooks the same period of time Huberty would find that majority of them rejected an idea of "buying iPad" (or if he/she is paid by netbook vendor - "hated iPad" would sound even more dramatic) for a bunch of whatever reason. Figures...

Netbooks did not receive any ads or hype. They found their place because of they match what folks wanted and proved to be useful for them. IPad is more of a fashion statement and riding waves of hype at the moment. As we know, any style will fall out of favor eventually. There is not much novelty in iPad either. If it proved to be useful - it will survive, otherwise it will become a paper weight in a matter of months.

I do not care about netbook or iPad, but I do not mind both of them to be around...
 
Actually the AppleTV has sold exceptionally well, especially considering it is just a "hobby". In fact the AppleTV sales were announced March 2010 as being up 35% over last year. While exact sales are not made public, analysts have said sales are "impressive".

Google it. AppleTV is hardly a failure. In fact, I personally know quite a few people with one, and I personally love mine!

Who knows what this "hobby" may bring to the iPad in the end....
 
If you asked me or anyone who bought iPhone, I would find plenty of reasons to support this decision. I would not expect from folks who bought iPad to suggest against it as they apparently made their choice in favor of iPad. With the same methodology applied to 8x more folks who bought netbooks the same period of time Huberty would find that majority of them rejected an idea of "buying iPad" (or if he/she is paid by netbook vendor - "hated iPad" would sound even more dramatic) for a bunch of whatever reason. Figures...

Netbooks did not receive any ads or hype. They found their place because of they match what folks wanted and proved to be useful. IPad is more of a fashion statement and riding waves of hype at the moment. As we know, any style will fall out of favor eventually. There is not much novelty in iPad either. If it proved to be useful - it will survive, otherwise it will become a paper weight in a matter of months.

I do not care about netbook or iPad, but I do not mind both of them to be around...

In the end the iPad may win out over the netbooks in the end...

A million to one and a half million units sold so far speaks volumes IMO.

Instant on. Apps that folks want. Size, weight, and form factor that makes sense to people. The folks I work with have said that the iPad is really "magical and evolutionary".. and that is knowing how much an Apple fanboy I can be at times. :eek:LOL
 
If you asked me or anyone who bought iPhone, I would find plenty of reasons to support this decision. I would not expect from folks who bought iPad to suggest against it as they apparently made their choice in favor of iPad. With the same methodology applied to 8x more folks who bought netbooks the same period of time Huberty would find that majority of them rejected an idea of "buying iPad" (or if he/she is paid by netbook vendor - "hated iPad" would sound even more dramatic) for a bunch of whatever reason. Figures...

Netbooks did not receive any ads or hype. They found their place because of they match what folks wanted and proved to be useful for them. IPad is more of a fashion statement and riding waves of hype at the moment. As we know, any style will fall out of favor eventually. There is not much novelty in iPad either. If it proved to be useful - it will survive, otherwise it will become a paper weight in a matter of months.

I do not care about netbook or iPad, but I do not mind both of them to be around...

So to sum up:"I don't care what the facts are,I will never admit the iPad is a roaring success."
 
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