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What about debit cards?

Over here in Canada you have to wait in line at the Genius Bar if you wanna use them. Each time I used my credit card I went thought with one of the mobile paying thingies with no problems but it's always total hell when you wanna use a debit card.

When I went in to buy my copy of Snow Leopard I had to wait in line for close to 25 minutes before I was processed.

Both of the stores to which I regularly go are set up the same way.

1. Credit cards : mobile stations
2. Debit, checks and cash : Genius Bar

It'd be great if the new mobile devices could also handle debit card payments.
 
The reason the stores are so crowded (popular as Apple puts it) is because of the sheer number of people just wandering around in them with no intent to buy. I sat on a bench outside of an Apple store waiting on my wife to finish shopping in another store and 95% of the people leaving the apple store left with nothing. Probably due to the, "That Macbook Pro is really cool, but it's not $2000 worth of cool" concept. They look at the Macbooks at the Apple store, but at the end of the day buy a Toshiba off the shelf at Wal-mart.

Thanks for your opinion.

Fact - Apple's retail SBU is booming.

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Switching to iPod Touch is a great idea. I always thought it was hilarious that the handheld things were running Windows CE :D
 
The reason the stores are so crowded (popular as Apple puts it) is because of the sheer number of people just wandering around in them with no intent to buy. I sat on a bench outside of an Apple store waiting on my wife to finish shopping in another store and 95% of the people leaving the apple store left with nothing. Probably due to the, "That Macbook Pro is really cool, but it's not $2000 worth of cool" concept. They look at the Macbooks at the Apple store, but at the end of the day buy a Toshiba off the shelf at Wal-mart.

A lot of them already own macintosh's and since they don't have one2one, they are in there asking questions like, how do i transfer my pc to mac?, how to i set up more users on my computer, how do i changed my wallpaper, etc... The other portion is first time switchers coming in to ask about a product that interests them in the near future. Other go to workshops, one2one sessions, etc... It's not all buying computers. Apple has more products and services than a computer store.
 
They need to fix their stores. Always takes 20 minutes just to check out cause all the workers are busy. It was better when they had dedicated cash registers instead of just people floating around. That is, if you can even figure out who the employees are. Different color shirts, some are wearing shorts and sandals, they look like hipster doofus college kids, not employees on the job. Bravo for changing to a single color shirt, it's long overdue.

I agree. Evertime I've always had problems being able to check out easily. Every time I go to my Apple Store, there's only one register, all the way in the back at the Genius Bar. Ridiculous.

I don't really find an issue with the shirts, they say "Genius" or "Concierge" on them.
 
The reason the stores are so crowded (popular as Apple puts it) is because of the sheer number of people just wandering around in them with no intent to buy. I sat on a bench outside of an Apple store waiting on my wife to finish shopping in another store and 95% of the people leaving the apple store left with nothing. Probably due to the, "That Macbook Pro is really cool, but it's not $2000 worth of cool" concept. They look at the Macbooks at the Apple store, but at the end of the day buy a Toshiba off the shelf at Wal-mart.

You forgot to mention the people who just use the macs to browse the internet. Actually irritates me quite a bit, purely because its rather rude to the store.
 
Apple Store Employee's Response

So I went into my local Apple Store today and bought a Magic Mouse. When checking out I asked the guy, "So when are you ditching those things (gesturing the Windows POS) and switching to iPod?" The guys was momentarily off guard, then responded, "I don't know that it's been made public, so I can't comment on that."

Read into this what you will.

:apple: WordOfBird
 
I didn't ask about the switch this morning... but i had no issues with the colored shirts, and the register was still sectioned off from the rest of the genius bar....

Really, i was more irked about the One-to-One thing. There was a lady there today ready, willing, and able to BUY IT, and she couldn't. She didn't know she needed to buy it at the purchase - more like, she didn't know she SHOULD have bought it when she ordered her computer.

I was sad for her to miss out on the training she wanted to buy when she found out about it :(
 
It's been a long time since I was in an Apple store so I don't know what colours are being worn at the one near me.

I like the idea of a multi-coloured shirt staff, which reminds me of Star Trek (The Original Series) uniforms (gold, blue and red shirts) :eek:
 
So I went into my local Apple Store today and bought a Magic Mouse. When checking out I asked the guy, "So when are you ditching those things (gesturing the Windows POS) and switching to iPod?" The guys was momentarily off guard, then responded, "I don't know that it's been made public, so I can't comment on that."

Read into this what you will.

:apple: WordOfBird

I went into an apple store this afternoon to buy a magicmouse.

I had no trouble finding an employee, they mentioned to me that the POS device was really slow, turned it over and showed me the windows mobile logo, and said they are switching to a ipod touch device soon. i thought that was interesting. confirmed my email to email receipt to since ive used my card there before and i was on my way.


i've never had issues with the multiple colored shirts. they do wear name tags/cards around there necks.

usually someone asks you if they can help you, say sure and tell them what you want, they get it and ring you up. simple.
 
I used to work at the Apple Store and it was quite a ride. No matter what the store will do, at least 50% will not be satisfied.

In regards to the checkout PDAs, honestly people loved them, they would say to me "this is so great! I don't have to wait in a line." I do understand about wanting to checkout really quickly, but I think thats just the way humans are. I once read a study about waiting. An airline landed and they decided to have it take 15 minutes for the bags to arrive in the baggage claim. For the first group, they had them walk a bit to get to the baggage claim, it took them about 10 minutes to walk there, and they waited for 5 minutes. For the second group, they put the baggage claim right near where the plane deboarded so it ended up taking a minute to get to the baggage claim. More people complained in the 2nd group about the wait then the first group, even though they waited the same amount of time.

Its the same thing for the genius bar, it used to be there was a line, but people complained about that, so they came up with the reservation process. Alot of people loved that, because they could book one from home and be seen when they come in. However, not everyone is going to know about the reservation process at first. If you're a new customer, and your ipod/computer doesn't work, your first reaction is to just go to the store. So then they have to wait in the "stand by" line, in case someone with a reservation doesn't show up. Those were the customers who always complained. That was the one thing I didn't like about the store. We had a specific way of doing things, and if someone came in with a different idea, it would create an imbalance and throw the store into a tizzy.

I was a specialist, but I knew how to trouble shoot some basic ipod/iphone stuff. I could tell if there was liquid damage, and would just do basic restores for customers, to act as a gatekeeper for the genius bar, so the geniuses could work on real technical issues. However, one time I was back there examining a customers iphone, I got bombarded with genius bar stand by'ers asking me to help them, in which i had to tell them to be patient, cuz I was a specialist, not a genius and not authorized/(TRAINED) to do that job.

I remember this one lady walks in with a pair of the ipod earbuds and demanded to see a genius. I asked her some questions to find out more about the earbuds. They weren't working and they were 3 years old. We had 3 geniuses in that day. One in the back repairing computers and calling customers to say their stuff is ready and 2 swamped with computer/iphone reservations (it was around lunchtime, and we were surrounded by alot of businesses, so they were busy). The geniuses basically told me that, she would either have to wait a long time, or to just buy a new pair of headphones (warranty for the earbuds are 1 year). She didn't like that and kept complaining and kept demanding to see a genius immediately. In the end, she waited 40 minutes just to have a genius tell her that she had to buy a new pair of earbuds because they were out of warranty.

I think the main issue is that the apple stores are designed to be a boutique, like a diamond store, but handle the traffic of a big box retailer, so there needs to be some adjustments. I hope the new shirt policy will ease the customers.

PS i hated when customers complained about a busy store. I hate when ppl do that in general (on things like yelp). Business is good! It means the store is doing well and doing something right. If it wasn't busy, that means no one would want to be there because the store isn't doing a good job. :)
 
I wanted to put a Mac-based POS system in place at my pub.

Problem is there are no professional grade POS products available on the Mac platform, that can compete in price/features with the Winblows-based ones.

There's no reason there couldn't be a Mac-based solution, these programs are graphically simple, basically a front end to a database. There is also the lack of driver support in many cases for the printer/scanner devices on Mac.

You can bet they WANTED a Mac-based POS solution at the registers from the start and the fact that Apple had to swallow a Winblows-based POS system demonstrates my point...
 
They need to fix their stores. Always takes 20 minutes just to check out cause all the workers are busy. It was better when they had dedicated cash registers instead of just people floating around.

in most stores that would mean back in the back having to work in the midst of the geniuses and the trainers, who are going to have pissed off customers cause of the noise that it would cause.

So wait, if this is going to allow the employees to take cash with an iPod Touch, then are they all going to have to carry around big pockets of change or a big apron with lots of change in it? That doesn't seem very good either.

they are going to have cash drawers mounted under the display counters that they can go make change out of and drop the payment into.

So it wasn't just me then. Often I see many a confused shopper trying to pay. A shop needs a dedicated area to pay especially at busy times. I don't mind the remote pay option, it can be quick and easy. But it shouldn't be the only choice.

it isn't. there are cash registers but they are generally not convenient to the display area. and it was deemed that it was better to bring the sale to the customer who could play around with the displays while the stock was being gathered rather than having to walk to the line and stand and wait etc

Translation: In an effort to cut back on staff and make more money, Apple will have each employee do more.

Why don't they just come out and say it?

because it's not true. the split roles causes more trouble because you ping pong folks back and forth. they are dumping the split in the sales department because now everyone has the tools to do both jobs. so the baby blue and the orange folks will be one team. the repair guys and the trainers could end up staying a team with perhaps a different color than sales with maybe the managers and the inventory folks another. or they could just go all in and one color for everyone since even the inventory guys can ring up stuff. as they have several times when I was grabbing a phone case or some software and one of them was restocking stuff. i was actually surprised when I asked the girl where I had to go to pay and she was like 'if you are paying with a credit card I can do it right now' and whipped out old ugly.

i've always been confused as to why apply would use windows mobile devices for their checkout system, especially with the "there's an app for that" ads specifically pointing to their own hardware and software doing it. about time they switched!!!

because they had to develop the cradle and the software to work with their POS and inventory systems. that takes time.

How about this alternative idea: Apple has one color and style of a shirt. But a portion of the shirt is color coded to the specific position.

the point is that they are dropping, for a great deal, those extra roles. they don't need them. i heard from some guys at my local store that even the geniuses and the trainers are merging so to some degree, they will do both jobs. So now instead of 6 roles there are really only 4: Sales, Support, Management and Inventory. and a lot of the Inventory folks are actually also sales trained so in between opening boxes or bringing out computers they can ring up the quick and easy stuff so folks don't have to wait.

Does this mean cameras in the Ipod Touches

no. folks need to get over that issue. it's not happening at least for another year.

i saw the cradle at my local store today. it had a small barcode scanner in the top piece. there are photos on some of the other blogs as well. it was rather slick to see it in action

Using Touches makes so much more sense. It's a great ad for the Apple devices. It shows the utility and "business" use of the Touch. I wonder if any of the employees will be able to use their iPhones instead? I see lots of the employees using them to check appointments and such. Seems silly for them to have their iPhone and also have to carry a Touch.

i'm going to go with no. Apple, like most companies, probably has a diehard rule against putting internal software on your personal device. so no POS on your iphone (which you are likely supposed to leave in a locker anyway so you aren't tempted to text your buddies on the clock), no downloading the demo software to your laptop etc.

Apple will be using the iPod touch with a Camera, could we see an update before the Holiday Season? 11/3/2009?

oh for the love of Steve Jobs Liver IT IS NOT AN IPOD TOUCH WITH A CAMERA. get over that wish cause it ain't happening.

since some folks don't seem to get it, here's an article with some frakking photos for ya.
 
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