Populus
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Yeah, macOS is a different story. I would remain on Sequoia as well, if I had a compatible Mac. Sadly, when I purchase my next M5 Mac, it will come with Tahoe as a minimum macOS version.
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Apple Reveals How Many iPhones Are Running iOS 26
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Please go into details here about why Tahoe is such a nightmare to be avoided?
I'm on Tahoe, and has been since the public betas. M4 Mini and M5 MacBook Pro. Works flawlessly. Great upgrade, no trouble whatsoever.
If you want me to stretch into the negatives that would be that it shouldn't be installed on a 2019 Intel-based MacBook Pro. That was the last straw that made me retire it. But, tbf, it was beyond the ~5 years that I expect a MacBook Pro to last me.
Edit: I should add that ~5 years is essentially minimum what I'd expect. With the platform change and different requirements for AI I'm absolutely happy with 5+ years. The longest one has lasted me was about a decade.
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Populus
macrumors 604
I haven’t said it’s such a nightmare to be avoided, but there’s a significant part of users on this forums who would agree that macOS Tahoe doesn’t have a good Liquid Glass implementation, and I agree with them. Sure, it has nice features and I’m not judging performance here, but the UI needs some work, and if I could choose to install Sequoia on a new Mac, I’d do so until they polish the interface with the care macOS has always received in the past.
1. How much time have you spent using Tahoe, and what's your take on how long, if at all, these other people have actually used it?
2. What about it is so bad that it warrants full on avoiding?
pinkkie
macrumors regular
never updating from 17.7.2.
I get the update notification every other morning with no option to disable it
I get the update notification every other morning with no option to disable it
Plutonius
macrumors G4
This time I'm waiting until just before iOS 27 comes out before I update to iOS 26.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
In my circles many update as soon as the update drops. A new release always seems to have some oddities that get ironed out later, but I like to see the new stuff. I think many others do as well. The vocal minority makes it seem worse than it is.
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There are profiles you can install, or you can sign up for public beta updates, then set your phone to “iOS 17 public beta” and you’ll stop getting the notification.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
Sequoia and the 18 OSes for me until the Fall, at which time I’ll see what 27’s look like and then decide.
Zero interest in being a testing guinea pig for this round of garbage software.
Zero interest in being a testing guinea pig for this round of garbage software.
CrabQueenInc
macrumors 6502
Select Beta Update. You won’t be harangued to update to iOS 26 anymore.
And I'm sure there are many people (including me) who have devices that can't be upgraded -- such as my iPad Pro which would raise the percentage if we could.
This seems to DIRECTLY conflict every other report. Although the tortured way they came up with the number is probably how they got the percentages they wanted to publish. "How many people went to the App Store on a single day" is not a statistically valid measure. "How many people browsed the web in a week IS a statistically valid number".
Personally I mildly like iOS 26. But honestly it is exactly like the notch. After the first 45 minutes you'll never notice the UI changes again. And indisputably it is feature poor on new functionality. I have seen a few bugs, which is certainly more than "normal".
In iPadOS, I do LOVE real windows that give you real multitasking. That breathes new life into the platform. However I have seen A LOT of bugs. MANY apps just do not play nice in a windowed environment and they randomly close all the time.
Making iOS 27 a bug fix release is probably a good idea while they are trying to come up with a new VALID use case for their mobile devices to do. I am not remotely hopeful for Siri-AI. AI is a full 70% smoke and mirrors. It states with supreme confidence things that are just flat wrong.
Apple set up the market to expect Siri to bring AI to their fingertips. Sadly it is doing Exactly that! Incomplete; Misleading; and just plain Wrong. Those are the three pillars of Generative AI. There is going to be one hell of an IT bloodbath when CEOs are forced to admit they squandered billions and years on this fiasco.
Personally I mildly like iOS 26. But honestly it is exactly like the notch. After the first 45 minutes you'll never notice the UI changes again. And indisputably it is feature poor on new functionality. I have seen a few bugs, which is certainly more than "normal".
In iPadOS, I do LOVE real windows that give you real multitasking. That breathes new life into the platform. However I have seen A LOT of bugs. MANY apps just do not play nice in a windowed environment and they randomly close all the time.
Making iOS 27 a bug fix release is probably a good idea while they are trying to come up with a new VALID use case for their mobile devices to do. I am not remotely hopeful for Siri-AI. AI is a full 70% smoke and mirrors. It states with supreme confidence things that are just flat wrong.
Apple set up the market to expect Siri to bring AI to their fingertips. Sadly it is doing Exactly that! Incomplete; Misleading; and just plain Wrong. Those are the three pillars of Generative AI. There is going to be one hell of an IT bloodbath when CEOs are forced to admit they squandered billions and years on this fiasco.
Which it doesn’t say anywhere in the source, does it?! It’s just you and some other people here absolutely hellbent on making up that it said that was about people opening the AppStore app. And you’re having fun getting outraged about that instead of reading in the comments that people have already said that it’s wrong to misunderstand the source data like that.
You can prevent accidental updates by installing the public/dev beta profile. You won't receive any iOS 26 updates.
BTW, it's crazy that you have to resort to such tricks to avoid unwanted updates.
Contact_Feanor
macrumors 6502a
which is off course true of every iOS version since iOS 3, and since there's no actual numbers comparing the percentages of "upgrade regret" this argument is basically useless and just based on vibes. And there's many social psychological effects that make us think others think basically the same as we do... (in-group homogeneity, social comparison, etc.)
From the article you apparently didn’t read:
“iOS 26's statistics are based on devices that transacted with the App Store approximately 150 days after the update was released to the public, compared to 127 days for iOS 18.“
It is a developer source that uses the very specific and not everyday language "devices that transacted", that should be enough to give you pause instead of thinking that it absolutely must be only about people that opened their App Store app on that particular day.
You're the one that made up that it had to mean "How many people went to the App Store on a single day", the source says nothing about people. And the truth is that Apple doesn't define what they count as "transacted" in this context. But it's more than people opening the app, that's easy to know as we know that the App Store can do a number of things in the background. Like different security updates, including some forced, as well as download apps purchased on other devices. So it's possible that every active device that checked in on that particular day got counted. We don't know. But we do know that it's unlikely that it was only about people manually interacting with the App Store.
Agent007
macrumors 6502a
I think the "AIs" are out to pump stock on behalf of the people running them. Among the bots in tech blog comments sections, I doubt many are using increasingly-expensive computing power for no reason. Especially in a volatile stock market with little regulation. The AI Scam and overall atmosphere of greed are taking more notice every day. The Tech Bros have worn out any good will they had left with The People.
Abazigal
Contributor
I suppose it would be better to believe random internet rumours involving made up statistics because that just makes it easier to hate on Apple then?
The problem isn’t whether Apple’s statistics regarding their update rates are true or not. The problem is that the majority of posters here simply want Apple to fail, for reasons ranging from Apple simply not making computers the way they want anymore, to Apple being perceived as being in bed with a corrupt administration, and these sentiments are increasingly incongruent with reality.
Maybe Apple will be doomed some day, but it won’t be for the reasons being cited here.
Shirasaki
macrumors P6
It’s almost like Apple has gone to the situation not only to never permit downgrade but also force upgrade whether user like or not. Even Apple MDM won’t allow enterprise customers to “not upgrade indefinitely”, despite knowing their software is worse and worse by the day.