Apple Reveals How Many iPhones Were Running iOS 17 Before WWDC

[ErikGrim]

"iPhones and iPads that transacted on the App Store on June 9"

This seems to be a way to juice numbers. The older a device is the less likely you are to continue to purchase new apps, no?

 

[Hank001]

You have to define it somewhere. Is an iPhone that was made 10 years ago sits in a draw and is never turned on representative of anything?
Getting the figures for one day an extrapolating out isn’t the worst way of doing it. I’m on 17 and it’s not like I’m using the App Store daily either.

Fair point.

 

[Hank001]

Would be interested to see a statistic of devices that can run iOS 17 but users decided to stay on iOS 16

Plus one for that!

The most egregious part of this scenario, unless I'm much mistaken, is that if you make an informed choice not to update to iOS 17 on a device that is eligible to receive it, you are then denied the opportunity to update to the latest point versions of iOS 16. Security 🤦‍♂️

Yeah, that is indeed what I always bump into. I never update, but sometimes there is a security breach that makes me want to update. And then I can only go so far with point releases. I think the 'current latest' is 16.7.2 Otherwise one needs to go to 17, which will give you 17.5.1

 

[lartola]

It’s a naming convention…

If they’re doing *feature* releases throughout the year who gives a damn about the naming convention?

And what do you consider an OS update vs a feature update when *most new features rely on the frameworks and API’s that are part of the new OS*???

Well pretty bad naming convention if that were the case. New version numbers ought to be reserved for major OS overhauls such as from iOS 6 to iOS 7 or from macOS Catalina to Big Sur. If there’s no major OS overhaul then that update shouldn’t be a whole new version number but rather just a point release. And since major overhauls don’t happen every year there shouldn’t be a wwdc every year to announce “the biggest update ever” in it either.

 

[Jim Lahey]

I think the 'current latest' is 16.7.2

Yes I'm rolling 16.7.2 but I'm given to believe that 16.7.8 is actually the newest version available for devices not eligible to receive iOS 17. It's almost hilarious that Apple, the alleged paragon of security, actively prevents users from updating to the newest version of their operating system just because they have the temerity to choose not to download the new one.

 

[svish]

Good to see the numbers! Glad to see Apple devices getting long software support.

 

[Haiku_Oezu]

I would be more interested in knowing the percentage of devices who can’t upgrade to iOS 17 vs the ones that can but haven’t been

 

[alanvitek]

It was also optional to go to 15, and 16. With 15 apple offered 1 security update for 14 before pulling it and forcing you to update, with 16 (I think 15 as well) they offered 2 security updates before forcing you to update to 17.

Ah, ok I never realized there were parameters around how it worked with security updates. I assumed you just stayed on the last major release and would get all security updates. Thanks for the info!

 

[Peter_O]

Sorry to hear that, my 13 Pro Max is doing really well with all day battery life for me…

I'm truly envious!

Presumably, the vast majority of users who’ve updated have experienced zero problems, but there's a lengthy thread on Apple Support just now which suggests I'm far from being the only one to suffer after the 17.5.1 update and that the problem isn’t restricted to the iPhone 13.

Earlier today I conducted a timed test: from 100% charged the battery lost 8% in the first 10 minutes and entered the red zone in just over 3 hours. The only activity during this period was to tap on the screen to check the time and remaining charge.

Battery health is still showing 100% and only genuine Apple chargers/cables used.

Apple: could I please have my phone back?

 

[SFjohn]

I'm truly envious!

Presumably, the vast majority of users who’ve updated have experienced zero problems, but there's a lengthy thread on Apple Support just now which suggests I'm far from being the only one to suffer after the 17.5.1 update and that the problem isn’t restricted to the iPhone 13.

Earlier today I conducted a timed test: from 100% charged the battery lost 8% in the first 10 minutes and entered the red zone in just over 3 hours. The only activity during this period was to tap on the screen to check the time and remaining charge.

Battery health is still showing 100% and only genuine Apple chargers/cables used.

Apple: could I please have my phone back?

Sounds like it may be time to replace your battery… iOS 18 is only going to make battery problems worse

 

[Peter_O]

First time on this forum.

As one of the 77% who updated to iOS 17 this year, I'm happy to hear iOS 18 is coming, because since updating to iOS 17.5.1 a couple of weeks ago the battery life on my 1TB iPhone 13 Pro (with Battery life showing 100%) has crashed to the point where the device is no longer usable as a 'mobile' phone.

Hopefully, Apple will soon release some kind of interim update (17.5.2?) that fixes the issue, but for now I'm stuck with an expensive landline/paperweight.

I'm coming around to the conclusion that in future I will turn off ‘Automatic Updates' in my settings menu!

 

[Peter_O]

Belated apologies for suggesting that 17.5.1 killed my iPhone 13 plus…it was just that I only really started noticing the battery issues after updating, which now turns out to be a coincidence.
The problem was actually a swollen battery.
This only became apparent when I removed the protective case and could clearly see the screen bulging out from the frame.