I don't know of any professional that deal with upgrading internals of their equipment, they replace the entire thing. It makes no economical sense to deal with upgrades as the money you are saving compared to replacing will be eaten up by the downtime anyhow.
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I don't know of any professional that deal with upgrading internals of their equipment, they replace the entire thing. It makes no economical sense to deal with upgrades as the money you are saving compared to replacing will be eaten up by the downtime anyhow.
Agree. Why keep going to AMD, when Adobe software like AE still isn't able to utilise AMD graphics. That's why the Mac Pro is currently bottlenecked, because it cannot itemise my 12gb of GPU
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I'm a professional, and I deal with upgrades or used to when the Mac Pro was expandable/upgradable. Sometimes I would need to add a card or upgrade things, graphics cards, PCI cards etc. Most companies who do not lease their equipment do the same.
There it is in Newsroom: the iMac Pro is not the forthcoming Mac Pro, also says they're working on a killer new display...
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerful-mac-arrives-december/
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerful-mac-arrives-december/
Never heard of it really. The savings to be made compared to just replacing your equipment when more power is needed will be eaten up by doing the upgrades.
I have my computer reeplaced even if there is a software glitch that could be resolved, wouldn't make sense to try to fix it.
Ya, looks like there is also a Mac Pro still being designed.
At least we now know the new MP will have at least 18 cores as an option which will be nice. I hope 36 is the top option they do offer.
Would be nice to go back to a choice of Amd or Nvidia as well.
Not all bad.
At least we now know the new MP will have at least 18 cores as an option which will be nice. I hope 36 is the top option they do offer.
Would be nice to go back to a choice of Amd or Nvidia as well.
Not all bad.
Until it gets hot just like any other iMac that is. I have the highest spec i7 iMac and it gets to a crawl when rendering in Vectorworks which is a super light render, it spits out fire through it's tiny holes. On my desktop I pretty much have real time render as I manipulate the 3D model it rerenders the scene in seconds. Although Pro has revised cooling solution I can bet my studio it will be only sufficient in normal to medium use of the new processors in it. I would not touch the 18 core, that's a marketing ploy. Once again GPU is the bottle neck in another Pro product only this time even more so cause it's mobile GPU just like in any other iMac. I know exactly what Apple is doing, they can't wait to ditch OpenCL and convert developers to Metal only but that's going to be a slug slow process.
This iMac will be great for DAW and audio people as it could finally crunch those CPU intensive VSTs and rack effects across hundreds of channels.
Soooo that's why they have already announced a brand new modular Mac Pro then right?
And no, this iMac Pro stinks of desperation to gain market share back as they've had years to design a new case, for a computer pro users would actually want.
Yeah, you would probably replace the entire thing. But you'd keep your perfectly good, high-spec display.
RAM is not user upgradable... unbelievable!!!
Great to see Apple focusing on improving performance, looks a beast of a machine. It bodes well for the next Mac Pro.
I'm not sure about the demand for the iMac Pro though. How many have that kind of money for a non-upgradable machine? Great machine, but possibly without a market.
I'm not sure about the demand for the iMac Pro though. How many have that kind of money for a non-upgradable machine? Great machine, but possibly without a market.
The modular Mac Pro IS a new yet-to-be-revealed machine and not the iMac Pro which is aimed at a different kind of pro audience. Apple said as much in April.
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Either someone working for Apple should be more careful with their posts, or someone ordered the wrong computer! If it's the latter, hope s/he cancels the order and waits for the updated one!
Well, on the Mac side it used to be that black and white, until they made the Mac Pros less upgradable, so all consumer and pro machines were very limited in upgradability. On the PC side, it's more varied - you can certainly buy all-in-one consumer PCs with limited options, but you can also buy loads of cheap, low-end towers with internal expansion slots and drive bays.
I could understand Apple's previous reluctance to expandable low-end Mac towers, which could cannibalise their high-end Pro sales. But given Apple's Pro desktop market is so tiny now I see minimal risk. Unless they think "a Mac tower owner will buy once, and upgrade for years; instead of an iMac owner who'll replace every 2-3 years or so"?
I'm pretty excited by this. My 2013 iMac is starting to drag and I had to format the drive last week. With these starting at $5K, I'm already scared of the nMP prices. Granted, without a monitor, maybe they'll start at $3K again if we are lucky.
For what I do, these new iMacs would last me a LONG time. I do music production with tons of sample libraries running, so the retina 4k/5k screens are unnecessary, but the power these machines have look pretty sick.
For what I do, these new iMacs would last me a LONG time. I do music production with tons of sample libraries running, so the retina 4k/5k screens are unnecessary, but the power these machines have look pretty sick.
Also apples are comparably priced to oranges.
Don't compare proper workstation, with ton of expandability, user-accessible internals and twice the I/O capability with iMac Pro. Please.
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Talk is cheap.
Lots of power, it seems. Still has (10GB) ethernet and USB-A. Has Thunderbolt3. If only it was expandable it'd be a wonderful machine. Even as it is, it is for those that can stomach the price. If it starts at $4999 you'll probably hit very soon 5 figures for a fully loaded one. They had the courage to go there!
I'd rather see something less disposable design. That'll be good for 2-3 years and then you can throw in another $10k for a current machine. Or get something similar for much less. Not in such a cool package, though.
Regardless, I'm glad they learned something about the sad mistake that is known as MBP2016. Now if they only took that and fixed the Macbook Pro.
I'd rather see something less disposable design. That'll be good for 2-3 years and then you can throw in another $10k for a current machine. Or get something similar for much less. Not in such a cool package, though.
Regardless, I'm glad they learned something about the sad mistake that is known as MBP2016. Now if they only took that and fixed the Macbook Pro.
Um, I guess you didn't read carefully:
From TFA, above:
"Apple kept the pro-level reveals coming today by stating that the company is working on "a completely redesigned, next-generation" Mac Pro that is being built for users who required the highest-end, high-throughput system performance. A new high-end pro-level display will also be coming sometime soon."
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It's coming in the Fall, when they announce the new Mac Pro.
That's nonsense. A pro computer isn't "upgradeable" it's modular to be VERY niche on the thing you need it to do.
Consumers want "upgradeable" because they can't afford to buy the top model so they buy what they can afford and hope later they'll be able to add parts they couldn't afford originally when they were cheaper. By then it's already out dated though, that spec was available at day one and you couldn't afford it - 2 years later tech has moved on and all you can do is "upgrade" to the top spec from two years ago.
Pro's don't do that, time is money, if they're making money they'll buy the top spec they can afford to save them time. The only thing an actual pro could need to do to this iMac is add specific outboard gear, but as you've got 4x 40gb of bandwidth to do it, it's not going to be hard, so it is already pretty modular. You can add PCI-E to it, the Mac Pro is likely to just offer very high speed PCI-E slots directly, which will only be needed by all but the very very niche group of people.
Most business purchase via leasing options, so upgradeability is pointless when you'll get a brand new machine by the time you'd need to consider upgrading (if you didn't purchase the specs you actually needed...for some stupid reason).
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Xeons implies pro level 24/7 work. That better be one hell of a cooling system to cram 18 cores a few millimeters away from a display like that.
You don't know any professional who has ever added a bigger internal hard drive? Or ram?