Apple Reveals New Night Mode Photo Feature Exclusive to iPhone 11 Series

[69Mustang]

Google isn't in the business of selling phones when your data will make them way more money.

That has nothing to do with Apple's ability to push Night Mode across it's line up. I mean if Google can do it as a side hustle, surely Apple is more than capable of doing it as well amirite? Let's be honest here. We all know Apple is fully capable of doing that. It's being purposely held from the lower phones as an enticement for the flagships. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that either. It's smart.

You need to work on your deflection though. My dude @bydandie said: "Google can put it on their phones." Your comeback was: "Yeah well, they make more money with data." Derp.

 

[1BadManVan]

Apple its a company, no the American Red Cross dude. Money talks

So is google and they have gone back and added features to their older phones. Pretty sure if google can pull this off, so can Apple

Any other excuses you want to make for them?

 

[loybond]

Same thing for the smart HDR on the previous gen. Xs essentially worked with the same hardware as the x, but software enabled far, far better pictures in the xs gen phones.

These upgrades are their USPs for each new gen of phones, so they'll make a point of not including them for older phones, even if they can.

Sucks, but most companies do this. Sony recently released the A6100 and A6600 cameras. They both have the same sensor and even processors, but many features and modes are disabled for the cheaper camera.

Apple could easily enable this feature on their older models, this is purely a software feature since it’s been on androids now for a few years. Can’t tell me apples last couple generation chips can’t handle this process. But they won’t enable it since they won’t make money doing that

 

[Audigy]

Makes sense right?

Supporting some relevant features on older devices is a nice gesture, happy clients are more willing to reinvest and remain inside "the ecosystem".

What is worse is that they know that this will not harm the client's perception on them, to the point they are ok with the odds to give it a go. The consumer is losing its influence, nowadays the critique is viewed as some partisan entity with fundamentally ill intents. In the end, we all lose.

 

[NickName99]

I’ll be interested to see how this compares to NeuralCam, a $2.99 app that works incredibly well on my iPhone X.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/neuralcam-night-camera/id1474856599

 

[1BadManVan]

I’ll be interested to see how this compares to NeuralCam, a $2.99 app that works incredibly well on my iPhone X.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/neuralcam-night-camera/id1474856599

Probably be pretty competitive. Doesn’t seem like they made any huge hardware changes to the cameras besides adding an extra one. This was more of a software camera upgrade

 

[bayelrey80]

So is google and they have gone back and added features to their older phones. Pretty sure if google can pull this off, so can Apple

Any other excuses you want to make for them?

I see where you're going with this. Perhaps you could include Google's significantly shorter hardware and support support, video recording performance or lack thereof, always releasing a device with the outgoing mobile CPU yet charging the same price as its Android competition, we could go on... Apple isn't perfect, but we don't need to put Google on a pedestal either. If their stuff was that good, more people would buy it.

 

[sputnikBA]

Same thing for the smart HDR on the previous gen. Xs essentially worked with the same hardware as the x, but software enabled far, far better pictures in the xs gen phones.

These upgrades are their USPs for each new gen of phones, so they'll make a point of not including them for older phones, even if they can.

Sucks, but most companies do this. Sony recently released the A6100 and A6600 cameras. They both have the same sensor and even processors, but many features and modes are disabled for the cheaper camera.

The XS’ A12 Neural core significantly outperforms the A11 in the X actually. The way the camera processes data is also fundamentally different compared to previous iPhones. The makers of Halide wrote two lengthy blog posts explaining how. [Post A], [Post B].

I would be surprised if the 11 / Pro camera + neural processing pipeline is fundamentally more different from the XS, than the XS was compared to the X.

 

[MysteriousStain]

Remember when Ive said that a year later an iPhone X would be able to do things it couldn’t do at launch? Hahaha, nice one Jony.

 

[sinoka56]

Business as usual. That's how they entice people to upgrade when there's no innovation.

 

[saudade]

So is google and they have gone back and added features to their older phones. Pretty sure if google can pull this off, so can Apple

Any other excuses you want to make for them?

Different business models man. Nobody wants these cheap google’s phones. People wants iPhones because they r cool and expensive. Apple it’s the biggest and richter company on the world for a reason: u want it u pay it
They wont give u anything 4 free u know what i mean? Not the salvation army bro

 

[GCHASE1995]

Works on iPhone XR

 

[Coconut Bean]

Nice to see this (finally). Wonder why it took so long, I was really expecting it last year.

Apple should roll this out for the past several generations (Google, when they came up with this on the Pixel, rolled it out for all prior Pixels at the time).

Original research was done on a nexus 6p, it even works on the nexus 5x although it's slow as there's no hardware acceleration. It sucks that it's not available to X and above. But hey, gotta have unique features for the new model

 

[darngooddesign]

Remember when Ive said that a year later an iPhone X would be able to do things it couldn’t do at launch? Hahaha, nice one Jony.

The iPhone X will be able to run iOS13, something it couldn't do at launch.

 

[liberte1776]

I was hoping they would add an infrared mode too, like some of the Sony camcorders have had.

 

[macduke]

Existing models can shoot fast bursts as well and the processing doesn't need to be real-time to be useful.

But it does if you care about user experience and battery life. It has to capture all of those constantly because it doesn't know when you will press the button, and that's more than a typical burst because each burst item itself contains all of that too.
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Night Sight works on the original Pixel released in 2016 (3 years ago).

Doesn't Google send everything to the cloud for processing so they can peak your nudes? LOL.

 

[eyeseeyou]

You could always go third-party app. NeuralCam is getting strong reviews and it is only like $2.99 at the moment. I added it to my iPhone XS Max, though I have yet had a chance to try it.

I get mixed and inconsistent results with that app. Not entirely sure it's THAT much better than tweaking the shadows and brilliance on a standard pic in IOS 13 at least.

 

[Marshall73]

Works on iPhone XR

nope, Does the same low light enhancement it did on 12 etc. Proper night mode is a different mode with better results which reduce noise and blurring due to longer exposure times. If it did support it you would see a shot timer when you went to take a photo.

 

[Lightshaft]

This feature worked for me on iPhone XR iOS 13 Beta 8 (I even thought it’s a bug and reported to Apple) but stopped working on the iOS 13 GM.

 

[Marshall73]

This feature worked for me on iPhone XR iOS 13 Beta 8 (I even thought it’s a bug and reported to Apple) but stopped working on the iOS 13 GM.

if it were night mode it would show an image timer, e.g. how long you have to stand still taking the photo. Post processing of dark images to make them lighter is not the same as night mode.

 

[Lightshaft]

if it were night mode it would show an image timer, e.g. how long you have to stand still taking the photo. Post processing of dark images to make them lighter is not the same as night mode.

I made a few photos with stock camera at dark street and get absolutely bright pictures of that street, one of the photo was blurred as it was taken with long exposure. I wanted to make a photo of lonely lantern in the end of the street in full darkness, so I thought it’s a bug and was upset with the result. I deleted the original photos (cause I thought they are spoiled). But I sent them to friend with Telegram. It shows picture of viewfinder made by screenshot and the result photo.

 

[Marshall73]

I made a few photos with stock camera at dark street and get absolutely bright pictures of that street, one of the photo was blurred as it was taken with long exposure. I wanted to make a photo of lonely lantern in the end of the street in full darkness, so I thought it’s a bug and was upset with the result. I deleted the original photos (cause I thought they are spoiled). But I sent them to friend with Telegram. It shows picture of viewfinder made by screenshot and the result photo.

the viewfinder is pre processing, the resultant photo is post processing.

 

[gatorguy2]

Google isn't in the business of selling phones when your data will make them way more money.

Why not do both?