What amazes me the most about this thread: A person appears to have "won" against a corporation - and there's a lot of people here who develop more sympathy for the corporation than for the person.
Let that sink in for a moment. Capitalism has truly won if people prefer corporations over humans. Not that this is the first time that I see something like that happening, but this whole thread is just full of love for an organizations that has only one single purpose (making money for the shareholders) and that will practically do anything allowed by law to fulfil that purpose without any sense of morality, emotion or benevolence. Yet people are willing to actually develop positive emotions towards this organization. Amazing. Bizarre. Absurd.
I appreciate your point. Are you putting the small, starving artists on par with Apple? Let me reframe: If I'm a small starving artist just barely eking out a living mostly on the strength of iTunes store transactions and Apple takes the stage to surprise me and the world with this new service that they proclaim will be the new iTunes and I learn they will be pushing people to try this even when they are trying to buy music in the iTunes store FOR 3 MONTHS for FREE, I probably get nervous. Then, I learn that during the free trial period when I'm probably seeing my iTunes revenue fall or potentially be eliminated, I am also told that Apple will pay nothing to me during that 3 MONTHS, all I can see is that the money that might pay my rent or food is probably going to be gone or mostly gone during those 3 months.
Do I just happily go along with that? Hmmm, I may be homeless by the end of the first month or two but I'll just buckle down, live in a box on the street until I weather the 3-month storm and then my added slice of the extra 1% or so that Apple will share with us that I don't get from Spotify and similar should enrich me enough to forget the misery of living in that box.
Is that extreme? Yes, but I bet applicable to at least some too. If you were an unknown artists making virtually no money, you'd be happy with this deal. That's great. If I was a virtually unknown artists barely squeaking out enough money from iTunes "as is" to pay the core costs of life, I wouldn't be happy with this deal. I'd especially be unhappy that the end result of this deal is to further enrich a very, very rich corporation who could easily play the wholesaler here and throw a little cash at us starving artists while leveraging our creations to establish a new 28% right-off-the-top revenue stream.
It's all in how you look at it. If I want to make the case for Apple pre-reverse, I can easily do that. I could talk about shareholder obligations, why does Apple have to take on all of the risk, server/infrastructure costs/etc. too. I could spin how rich Taylor Swift is and make this about her trying to get richer and so on. But in the end, I see this whole thing as a PR problem or opportunity. It's not really about Apple having to endure an unfair cost structure or making Taylor Swift even more money. Basically, Apple is the Goliath here and there's no spinning out of looking like they are exploiting "starving artists" for their own gain even with the argument of more "future potential" for those same starving artists down the road.
Even Apple has realized this and thus the reversal. Short term, this will cost Apple a tiny fraction of their cash holdings. In the medium and longer-term they are going to quickly transform from black knight to white knight in the court of public opinion, looking like the service who cares so much about the little guy, starving musicians that they put some of their vast wealth to good use even while they were making no profit for themselves. It will be a very cheap investment in building that good will.
You don't think its unauthentic for someone that lived in Nashville to not only suddenly move to New York, the greatest city in the world, but then also have the chutzpah to pretend she knows and loves the city enough to become an official city ambassador less than a year after moving there? Yeah, that's about as fake as it gets.What is this nonsense? She hasn't become any less authentic, just because you don't happen to like pop music as much as you might like country music.
Country music isn't somehow more worthy, or more authentic, than any other genre of music.
Only a complete snob would think that.
It's what Apple should do, and if you pay attention to Eddy specifically referencing Indy Artists it should be clear that Apple will break up the Music Industry Cartel by directly catering to Indy Artists.
If the service takes off, then it won't take 70 months to break even. Taking off implies an increase in customers over time, so the benefits to the artists will accumulate faster and faster.Yes, as someone calculated above, the artists would break even after 70 months, and then they would start benefitting. If the service takes off.
Nah, I meant the whole Taylor Swift open letter and Twitter "tempest in a teapot", and then Apple caving in - to me it's pretty clear this was all arranged to patch up the negative feedback due to the initial (piss poor) decision to not pay artists during the trial period.Good PR wouldn't have created this issue. It essentially paints Apple as a corporate greedy company. That's not the PR that a company like Apple wants.
Why are you putting Apple AGAINST people? You present no middle ground here with your logic: ALL people are always good and all coporations are always bad.
Corporations are built on people, and run by people. Apple provides thousands of people with jobs, livelihoods, retirement plans, 401k's, paid vacations for memories to be made with family and friends etc. And that's just direct employees, not even mentioning indirect jobs and lives that are effected by them creating new markets with app development for entertainment, medical research, art etc.
Think of all the people they have empowered to enrich their lives through the devices and services they make. All the books and music able to be experienced because of their evil corporate greediness.
They have stood up for user privacy when other companies haven't, they self audit their sub contractors even for safety and health. I own a small business and I'm not paying a dime to send inspectors and auditors to my sub contractors companies and demanding they pay more, improve their living conditions etc.
Tim Cook has doubled paid vacation times during thanksgiving and Christmas, implemented charity donation matching for their employees, donated millions to LGBT communities, promoted and fought for female gender equality within the workplace, stood up against even the U.S. government for the privacy of their customers, transferred the company to 75% renewable, green energy with a goal of 100% within the next couple years, ALL to set an example of doing what the PEOPLE running the company feel convicted to do to set an example. Making money isn't evil, and empowers people like Tim Cook and Apple to both create devices and services within the structure of capitalism to empower and improve people's lives, AND make money so that they can continue to invest BILLIONS into creating those devices and services to improve people's lives.
I don't get the mindset of you and people like you spreading so much hatred and anger and bitterness towards people like me (who run a business) who have sacrificed YEARS of our lives to try and start a small ("evil") corporation to try and make money while providing services to other people or ("evil") corporations to try and fulfill the American Dream and hopefully be rewarded for our hard work with a great retirement and future for my kids.
You don't think its unauthentic for someone that lived in Nashville to not only suddenly move to New York, the greatest city in the world, but then also have the chutzpah to pretend she knows and loves the city enough to become an official city ambassador less than a year after moving there? Yeah, that's about as fake as it gets.
http://www.nycgo.com/w2nyWhen you say "pretend she knows and loves the city enough to become an official city ambassador less than a year after moving there" do you just mean wrote a song about being new in New York?
Where are you getting all the stuff about being an official city ambassador from?![]()
Pathetic.
I'll still torrent what I want and not be restricted to when and where I an listen.
Seriously? Do you even know what it takes to "sing" music? Let alone, write it and produce it? Thats a slam to artists from any field. Shut up.She's a singer. Not an artist.
Remember, Apple didn't negotiate the terms of Apple Music with the artists, they done it with the labels.
For Apple to say, on a whim, that they're going to pay for the 3 month trial period, I don't buy it. That goes against the terms and conditions they agreed with the labels, you can't just alter months of negotiations on a whim because someone writes an open letter.
That's why I believe this was the plan for the start, Apple were always going to pay the labels (and therefore the artist) during the 3 month trial but wanted to do something to publicly highlight it and do so in such a way it would seem like massive news.
Seriously? Do you even know what it takes to "sing" music? Let alone, write it and produce it? Thats a slam to artists from any field. Shut up.
Join Taylor Swift and the 55 million other visitors who come to New York City every year.http://www.nycgo.com/w2ny
Please be aware of the topic you are speaking about.
Nah, I meant the whole Taylor Swift open letter and Twitter "tempest in a teapot", and then Apple caving in - to me it's pretty clear this was all arranged to patch up the negative feedback due to the initial (piss poor) decision to not pay artists during the trial period.