Haha sure sure, just keep telling yourself that.They did. The 2018 MBP has the 3rd gen butterfly keyboard and it doesn’t have dust issues. Mine is good still.
Haha sure sure, just keep telling yourself that.They did. The 2018 MBP has the 3rd gen butterfly keyboard and it doesn’t have dust issues. Mine is good still.
You say that now but after 4 years when the repair program elapses and the value of your machine sinks due to the fact the keyboard is prone to failure let see how you feel then. I would not touch a 2016 - 2018 Mac book with a 10 foot pole.I like my butterfly keyboard. I have the 2018MBP15 and also the 2017MBP15 they are quite neat actually. If they break, which the 2017 one did, just toss them back to Apple and in a week you get a brand new top case assembly and sometimes logic board replaced for free. I don’t care if it breaks, that’s not my problem as long as it works great when it’s not broken, I’m happy. They are fantastic personal machines that I wouldn’t trade for anything else. If you need more compute power than the top of the line MBP15, then delegate the workload to a server cluster. At home you can use the 2 x 5k monitor on each side with it. The other Mac that I think is pretty sleek is the iMac Pro. It’s beautiful and it’s powerful. Again if you need more just off load the compute task to a server, like rendering or compiling or building symbols, optimizing database, etc that can take days and on the scale of 10TB+. If you are on the budget then the best bang for your buck is the lowest standard config 5K iMac, don’t buy the 1080p iMac tho, the smaller 4K iMac can be considered if you need one more step down. Make sure to swap the Magic Mouse out with a Magic Trackpad.
You say that now but after 4 years when the repair program elapses and the value of your machine sinks due to the fact the keyboard is prone to failure let see how you feel then. I would not touch a 2016 - 2018 Mac book with a 10 foot pole.
I take that for granted. I also have insurance for my Mac, and you should too.Haha sure sure, just keep telling yourself that.
Speak for yourself, one of the big advantages of a Mac is the longer lifespan, im still using my 2011 mba. Even if I was to consider getting a new machine after 4 years I would not get back as much as I would when I sell it with that faulty keyboard. There is no sugar coating it the 2016 to 2018 machines are a bad investment.The product lifecycle for a Mac is usually 4 years anyway, after that it’s either given to charity or re-manufactured for lower-end markets. If not, you can have them for secondary use like as a server for guest room TV, etc. Apple will recycle them for free if you need a place to pass it on.
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I take that for granted. I also have insurance for my Mac, and you should too.
The product lifecycle for a Mac is usually 4 years anyway, after that it’s either given to charity or re-manufactured for lower-end markets. If not, you can have them for secondary use like as a server for guest room TV, etc. Apple will recycle them for free if you need a place to pass it on.
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I take that for granted. I also have insurance for my Mac, and you should too.
Just have replacement macs, you should never rely on one main stations. The time when it failed is because I splashed ginger ale on it, not because of dust. Apple fixed it for free. I have insurance for everything I purchase, just in case I damage it or it needs service after standard warranty elapses. That includes my chest freezer, which came in handy when UPS dented the enclosure. I got a 75% reimbursement for it.It's funny. The more you rattle on about this, the more you're making the point that MacBooks with butterfly keyboards are a poor choice. You're saying 1) you can just keep going back over and over to get them fixed by Apple (as if that's a good thing), 2) that these keyboards are so bad you should pay extra to insure them, and 3) the fact that a very recent MacBook Air keyboard hasn't failed (yet) means they must have fixed this, right?
You realize, don't you, that not everybody thinks downtime is acceptable, or that it's unreasonable to have to blow compressed air into your keyboard just to make sure it doesn't break. It seems like you've forgotten that the last generation of Apple laptop keyboards were rock-solid reliable: no canned air, no babying it like it was made of eggshells, no repeated trips to the Apple Store. They just worked. And now you yourself admit your own keyboard has broken multiple times and still, somehow, you believe it's a good design? All I can say is, Apple's "reality distortion field" has a very strong hold over you. And honestly that's fine... for you. But not fine for people who want an Apple laptop with a keyboard they never have to bring in for service.
If you are highly price elastic and conscious about the price, then top of the line Apple products are not for you then. This is increasingly true and will be more true as the market matures, volume of sales decreases and margin increases to compensate.Speak for yourself, one of the big advantages of a Mac is the longer lifespan, im still using my 2011 mba. Even if I was to consider getting a new machine after 4 years I would not get back as much as I would when I sell it with that faulty keyboard. There is no sugar coating it the 2016 to 2018 machines are a bad investment.
No, its just because they have an unreliable pos keyboard.Just have replacement macs, you should never rely on one main stations. The time when it failed is because I splashed ginger ale on it, not because of dust. Apple fixed it for free. I have insurance for everything I purchase, just in case I damage it or it needs service after standard warranty elapses. That includes my chest freezer, which came in handy when UPS dented the enclosure. I got a 75% reimbursement for it.
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If you are highly price elastic and conscious about the price, then top of the line Apple products are not for you then. This is increasingly true and will be more true as the market matures, volume of sales decreases and margin increases to compensate.
Neither do I, and my b-key stopped working reliably within weeks of purchase. Blowing air into it didn’t work - the plastic arms break.I like the updated keyboard, but I don't eat cookies while typing.
If you are highly price elastic and conscious about the price, then top of the line Apple products are not for you then. This is increasingly true and will be more true as the market matures, volume of sales decreases and margin increases to compensate.
You know, $1500 can't really get you a mac anymore? You can't really have standards when you are offering $1500. MBP13 entry level pricing is around $1799, and that's just there to show you what not to buy. A decent full-purpose MBP would be one of the high-end 13-inch MBP or any of the 15-inch MBP. The average selling price is around $3400, going from $2400 to $15000. Mine is around $4300.Nah. I'd be quite willing to spend $1500 on a new Mac laptop (as I've done many times before). I just don't want to buy one that's got a piece of crap keyboard that will break within 1-2 years. It doesn't feel good to get ripped off, even if you can afford it.
You know, $1500 can't really get you a mac anymore? You can't really have standards when you are offering $1500. MBP13 entry level pricing is around $1799, and that's just there to show you what not to buy. A decent full-purpose MBP would be one of the high-end 13-inch MBP or any of the 15-inch MBP. The average selling price is around $3400, going from $2400 to $15000. Mine is around $4300.
Yes, the 2018 MBP is part of the keyboard repair program, though it has 3rd gen butterfly keyboard, hence doesn’t break with dust ingress, thanks to the silicon membraneThanks for letting us all know how much you spent on your MacBook(s). Everyone here is very impressed! I know I sure am.
I guess the real question, Woodpecker Baby, is whether Apple will still replace the keyboard on your $4300 MacBook when you're done wanking off onto it?