Which is why Apple is focusing on the Apple Watch, as that is what will become the natural successor to the iPhone.
The Mac is a legacy piece of tech with no viable path of evolution. It’s the past, not the future.
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Which is why Apple is focusing on the Apple Watch, as that is what will become the natural successor to the iPhone.
The Mac is a legacy piece of tech with no viable path of evolution. It’s the past, not the future.
I am right, we rented a fully pimped out D700 MacPro and it was about 1.5x times faster then my MacBookPro pre-touchbar. Pretty sad if you ask me.
However, I will agree with you that working on huge ass AE projects really suck on laptops.
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I am not talking about real time encoding for web streams. I am talking about encoding via Adobe products where you have a lot better control over the encode quality. Real time streaming quality sucks in comparison. I have no idea what the hell you mean by quick sync, but you are probably talking about the embedded GPU attached to the Intel CPU, which is actually for decoding more than encoding. Encoding using Metal or OpenCL will ALWAYS be faster on a dedicated GPU.
[doublepost=1515899032][/doublepost]All I can say is I am very disappointed in the path that Apple has chose to follow in regards to the power user. For the time being I am going to run with Windows10 at home and see if Apple makes true their promise about the modular MacPro. Yes my system was hackintoshed and had OS X on it; but have since deleted it; but I can tell you that OS X kicks ass with a nVidia 1080ti as the GPU using nVidia's own drivers.
I really have no issues about OS X; just the hardware. I think the iMac Pro is a stupid idea because it continues the idea of throwing away perfectly good hardware (the monitor) once the rest is outdated. I invested in a 30" Cinema display back in the day, and while it is showing its age a bit, it is still a kick ass monitor; and Apple has basically nothing to offer me at the moment. The MacPro trashcans are pathetic because nothing of substance can be updated.
Whatever Apple does, they would be wise to make the CPU, GPU, RAM and HD easily upgraded in whatever they think a modular MacPro might look like. The PSU should also have ample power to spare, so future GPUs that crave more power could be added.
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Not sure at all what you’re talking about - the MacBook, MacBook Pro and iMac are all using current-gen tech. And that makes up about 90% of Mac sales right there, at least.
If only Apple would release a revised MacBook Air with a Retina Display. Unfortunately it is more likely the MacBook Air will be discontinued with Apple being so out of touch with the consumer.
A brief summary of what has disappeared and changed.
17" MacBook Pro. a beast of a machine and one of the finest Macs ever produced. Imagine what that would have been like with a Retina Display.
iMacs with a built in Superdrive at the expense of a Low Profile Chassis.
User Serviceable Hardware. No soldered in Storage, CPU and RAM.
The Mac mini has not received a decent upgrade since 2012.
USB-C at the expense of the flexibility of multiple ports.
MacBook Pro. TouchBar at the expense of a logically laid out keyboard.
No more Thunderbolt 2 which continues to play a crucial role for many.
No more USB 3.0 despite the vast majority of peripherals requiring it.
Firewire 800 although old now plays an important role even today. Firewire 800 storage solutions such as G-Tech command a high price so there is still demand.
.....I could go on but suffice to say the current Mac range is a mere shadow of its former self.
Sounds like you are just stuck in the past. Not saying it’s necessarily a bad thing. You obviously have your workflow which still works for you and there is little incentive to want to change it. But times change and Apple too will change in keeping with the times and that’s just the way she goes.
There are far more uneducated rich people than 20 million
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This post makes me both laugh and cry
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MacBook Air is really not a product that is needed anymore since MacBook got so fast and MacBook Pro so tiny. The gap between them is so small there is no space for MacBook Air.
Not if you ask MacBook Air loyalists..
The rMB is too small (12" to 13.3" is a huge gap, especially at that particular part of the size range) and the MBA still somehow feels and operates as a more svelte machine than the new nTB MBP's.
Trust me, I have an MBA and a 2016 nTB-MBP right next to me.
There's a difference. That wedge shape does wonders.
In my Business (Webdesign, Design, advertising) everyone still works with Apple MacBook Pro and most of my colleagues use iPhones.
Stock configuration and mid-level configuration Macs aren't high end. They're low end with high price.
It's so easy to say a bunch of meaningless fluff about the future and people being "stuck in the past".
Too bad it's completely empty rhetoric and doesn't address a single point on that list.
The lack of a real Mac Mini/Pro update in years is especially pathetic. Companies that are a fraction of Apple's size get their products updated as soon as its available. Talk about living in the past!
Just imagine the money and market-share progress Apple could be making if they offered a physically attractive computer (as they do now) but with up-to-date, user-replaceable internals, truly "pro" level options and more reasonable pricing. I'd be willing to bet that this headline would instead read something like "Apple Rises to Become World's Largest PC Maker By Substantial Margin".
They can easily afford to do it. They just choose not to for some reason.
They can easily afford to do it. They just choose not to for some reason.
I totally expect Apple to do the wrong thing this year lol.
New mac mini: A magic touchpad sized device with 4 USB-C ports, one of which you use to power it. Starts at just $1099 and comes in gold, rose gold, and space gray. Basically a Macbook with a super low end processor.
New Mac Pro: A $9999 desktop that is without question, the fastest commercial workstation you can buy. And not even a bad deal, but it will completely ****ing miss the point.
i think so..,
i would be so happy to see me me wrong,
but Schiller,Ive and Cook don't really care about putting out
the Mac we love as Apple used to do
13 inches macbook pro quad core
mac mini quad core
a modular Mac Pro
and...no glue and upgradable parts such as SSD and Ram
but Cook won't do it...
If the demand for that was as large in the world outside of macrumors as it is in the world inside of macrumors, everyone would be buying Hackintoshes.
The more Apple locks down their machines, the more they sell. The "sealed" MacBook Pro is now the most popular machine they sell and it is selling more units now then it ever has before. I understand how this drives the upgraders and tinkers bonkers because it just reinforces Apple's decisions to restrict all servicing to qualified personnel.
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Well, if that's the case, then someone needs to start a company that creates elegant, upgrade-able and serviceable computers for the "tinkerers" that runs a rock-solid, Unix-based OS similar to macOS. The time is seriously ripe for a forward-looking tech company to take advantage of the unsatisfied market opportunities Apple is ignoring and then swoop in and grab up customers like me. They might not become the world's richest tech company by following that business model but, if they treat their customers right and give them what they want, in time they certainly will become the most beloved. Apple would become the new Microsoft, in essence. Remember, Apple claims to have never chased "market share", per se. The next awesome tech company that comes along and dethrones Apple doesn't necessarily need to chase market share either. They would just need to deliver an awesome, elegant product that people desire and the market share and profits will follow. Steve Jobs knew this, too. It's just too bad Tim "doesn't see the forest for the trees".
Many people I know want elegance and longevity out of their tech products. These days, Apple just doesn't deliver a computer product that does both. Some people I know absolutely refuse to purchase a computer they can't upgrade - PERIOD. Apple delivers on the "pretty"... but definitely not on the product longevity aspect. Apple's computers are now purposely designed to be fast and useful for about 2 to 3 years and then replaced - basically disposable. If a company were to come along and deliver BOTH product elegance and longevity at a reasonable price... they would have created a seriously successful tech business with plenty of potential customers that are tired of Apple's stripped-down, expensive offerings. There are lots of current Apple customers just waiting in the wings for something "different" and better. I talk to them all the time. As much as I love the Apple of yore, I happen to be one of those customers.
Apple could have smoothed the transition over to the 12" MacBook by offering an updated version of the MacBook Air with an IPS display and moving up in processor generations to keep in step with the MacBook (Skylake U and then Kaby Lake U), yet leaving the ports as they were. I think a lot of users looking to get into the Apple ecosystem would have benefitted from a lower cost, slightly updated MBA, but I digress.
I would love to see a 17" MacBook Pro again, with the same overall dimensions as the last revision (Late 2011). Better cooling, the Touch Bar, the scissor keys from the Apple Magic Keyboard and a Retina Display. However, driving a 3840 X 2400 (1920 X 1200 @2x)display probably at decent frame rates is not feasible until Apple moves to an AMD Mobile Vega GPU. Combine that with a 6-core H-series CPU (Cannon Lake/Ice Lake) and up to 32GB of DDR4 RAM and pros looking for a portable editing workstation might really take to it.
The SuperDrive is dead and all that extra dead weight in an iMac was useless. Despite all the early production problems, why would anyone want that old iMac chassis back?
It would be nice to be able to upgrade RAM and SSD myself, but the CPU? Apple would have to engineer a card as Intel doesn't even sell it's mobile chips in FCLGA versions only soldered down BGA version. Besides, the market for people upgrading their laptops CPUs would be infinitesimal...it was tiny even back in the days when you could upgrade the CPU in your Power Mac with a DayStar Digital PDS card.
The Mac mini does deserve a decent update and Apple has completely missed the boat in giving users something like what Intel did when it released the Skull Canyon NUC.
USB-C is the future, period, end of story. USB Type-A connectors will be around for some time, but eventually, they are going to fade away.
Non-sequitur - Apple's keybaord is laid out logically enough, but the Touch Bar really shouldn't cost $300 USD extra for users.
The 2016/2017 MacBook Pro has Thunderbolt 3, buy an adapter and move on.
The 2016/2017 MacBook Pro has USB 3.0, buy new cables and move on.
FireWire 800...really? Are you serious? Buy an adapter. FireWire had it's day and it's day is done...that's almost akin to asking for the parallel and serial ports to be put back on PCs. If people still use them and they work, that's great, but no one is asking for that port to be brought back...talk about a big bag of hurt.
If you don't think demand is that great, check out the prices being paid on Ebay for a Mac Pro made prior to 2013 and Mac Book Pros prior to 2016.
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That may be the future, but for now, none of these devices are capable of doing the work of the so called "legacy" computer. You can't even do coding for any of these devices without a computer. It's great to look towards the future but you won't get there if you forget the past.
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Well Apple products hold their value and you can still buy the 2015 MBP 15" direct from Apple for $1999+.
You and me too! I've a MacBook Pro from late 2011, and ALL the ports I need and want. With the drop of all these ports and this ingenious idea someone came up with called Magsafe also being eliminated, I also struggle to find something to upgrade to at this time. Oh Jobs, I wish you were still alive so this mess didn't exist. A laptop is meant to be portable but Apple's MacBooks no longer are due to all these modifications. Upgrades and modifications are good but not when the manufacturer determines what the customer requires. And who came up with this changing and modifiable function key layout? That was not what is considered an enhancement request from users, but just a neat new fangled idea some noob at Apple threw out there. But one of the most concerning things is the build quality. If the build quality of MacBooks in 2011 like it is today, I would definitely not still be using my current MacBook Pro.
Some of Apple's restructuring and modifications are poorly thought out, especially when things like the recent iPhone battery mess come to light.
Many of the decisions Apple make are strictly for the bottom line, not for consideration of it's customers. There is absolutely no doubt that that is now the case at Apple.
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Yes, the older products up to about 2015 do hold their value. The current stuff doesn't even compare my 2011 MacBook Pro. Just look at how Apple have almost eliminated their Airport and Time Capsule divisions. I left the M$ world behind in 2009 and migrated to the Apple ecosystem, but it appears as more and more have switched to Apple products over the last ten years that Apple has become A$$le, $pple, Appl$, or whatever you wish to call it.
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Yep, Apple is going down a slippery slope now. Get rid of that silly function key idea. I've witnessed two separate incidents where MacBooks got kicked to the floor because of no Magsafe, and I actually saw a girl crying because her computer would not power up. This is something that never happened before Magsafe was dropped. And, if you really need users to adopt USB-C then don't have just one, have at least three in addition to Magsafe. It's a laptop! In other words it is meant to be portable.
Dongle this, dongle that is really just a $$$ grab. As we've seen recently, many of Apple's decision are based upon how much money they can get away with through product modifications and throttling.
A$$le / $pple / Appl$, whatever you want to call them is losing it just as they were gaining considerable traction in the marketplace.
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I agree with much of what you said, but specifically regarding the MacBook Pro, dropping Magsafe was a very stupid idea. Regarding USB-C, add two more USB-C ports and not restrict users to just one. The MacBook line are LAPTOP's, not DESKTOPs!
I have been unable to rule out the possibility that Apple sold at least one MacPro in 2017. If confirmed, that would account for one of those 20 million (assuming it was not returned), only 19.99999 million to go and we'll have a good breakdown of what they sold.
To be 100% honest, it's actually possible they sold MORE than one, but that starts stretching credulity.