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Makes sense for Macbook Air M1 to have better score than Macbook Pro as the battery is much easier to be replaced. On each Macbook that I had so far (MBP13 2009 and rMBP13 late 2013) I had to replace battery after several years because they got swollen, so this was the main reason I went with M1 Air this time.
 
Well this is laughable. Samsung.fr rates their latest phone with 9.6.
The Fairphone 3, literally made to be user repairable with just a screwdriver, has a rating of 8.5.

This smells fishy.
"Apple determines these ratings against a grid offered by the Ministry of Ecological Transition, as opposed to a central regulatory authority, but they are overseen and verified by the Fraud Prevention Directorate (FRCCB)."

That'll bite them, don't know if there would be fines, there should be for lying to the public.
 
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"Apple determines these ratings against a grid offered by the Ministry of Ecological Transition, as opposed to a central regulatory authority, but they are overseen and verified by the Fraud Prevention Directorate (FRCCB)."

Wow. Way too much government.
 
Repairability of anything electronic is not what it used to be. Technology has moved on past that, with everything being so compact, tin terms of the functionality of what used to be on 5 discrete circuit boards is now all on 1 board that is 1/4 of the size of and of the discrete boards were. If you open the devices, you will just have to replace entire modules which can cost as much as the entire unit.
Today, yes. But in 2025, the cost of an iPhone 12 mainboard isn't going to be all that much compared to a new phone.

I bought a light sensor for my SE, it was around $15. That's $15 to fix vs $700 to replace.

The real crime is that if I replace my camera, or mainboard, or any other part, Apple won't let me use it because I didn't go to an Apple store to get it repaired. Nevermind if the device is EOL or otherwise un-repairable by Apple.
 
A step in the right direction. I wonder how they compare with iFixit’s scores. There should be some sort of measure in place to force them to compensate if the rating is below 5, like have to make documentation available, or not be allowed to void warranties if 3rd party repair shops do repairs. Something to that effect.
Or not being able to sell at all if it falls below a certain threshold.

There are so many products in this world that break so easily, should not even get a licence to sell.
Few examples:
Cheap lighters (India), use them a few times or even after one time, the lever will break almost instantly.
Zippers in cheaper products, seems I always have problems with zippers, 2 times in last month, a suitcase which I got from my job and a cheaper fleece jacket, break to easily, catch or break.
Cheap beverage glasses, break easily when doing dishes in hot water.
Cheap Tv's, backlights of horrible quality, break after 1-2 years of use.
1$ shop stuff, those should be forbidden.
Cheap clothes from certain retailers, breaks after a few uses.
 
This reparability index is calculated based on these criteria. I've added the notes for iPhone 12 Pro

  • Documentation: score determined by the manufacturer's commitment to make technical documents available free of charge to repairers and consumers. 12.3/20
  • Disassembly: score determined by the ease of disassembly of the product, the type of tools required and the characteristics of the fasteners. 5.9/20
  • Availability of spare parts: score determined by the producer's commitment to the availability of spare parts and the time of their delivery. 9.3/20
  • Price of spare parts: score determined by the ratio between the selling price of spare parts and the price of the product. 12/20
  • Specific: score determined by sub-criteria specific to the product category concerned. 20/20
Sources:

Apple on iPhone 12 Pro: https://support.apple.com/content/d...e/pdf/210126_INDICE_DE_REPARABILITE_A2407.pdf

French ministry of ecology:https://translate.google.com/transl...ps://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/indice-reparabilite
 
This reparability index is calculated based on these criteria. I've added the notes for iPhone 12 Pro

  • Documentation: score determined by the manufacturer's commitment to make technical documents available free of charge to repairers and consumers. 12.3/20
  • Disassembly: score determined by the ease of disassembly of the product, the type of tools required and the characteristics of the fasteners. 5.9/20
  • Availability of spare parts: score determined by the producer's commitment to the availability of spare parts and the time of their delivery. 9.3/20
  • Price of spare parts: score determined by the ratio between the selling price of spare parts and the price of the product. 12/20
  • Specific: score determined by sub-criteria specific to the product category concerned. 20/20
Sources:

Apple on iPhone 12 Pro: https://support.apple.com/content/d...e/pdf/210126_INDICE_DE_REPARABILITE_A2407.pdf

French ministry of ecology:https://translate.google.com/transl...ps://www.ecologie.gouv.fr/indice-reparabilite

Thank you for sharing. Very insightful!
 
Yeah, it's so retarded, they create a problem and you have to pay for a solution as a consumer. I wanted to replace the battery on my 15" 2018 MBP. Guess what? The cost is close to 900 EUR because they have to change the whole top case with the keyboard, even though nothing's wrong with it that's just the way it works.

I bet it's similar in other countries too.
 
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Which mean absolutely nothing, as this only ranks their own repairabilty score, not the average users. Until Apple allows access to the web based tools that allow end users to update the firmware when you replace a camera module or screen with OEM Apple parts so 1) the new parts function properly and 2) an error message complaining about “non official parts” doesn’t continually pop up, these scores don’t mean anything.

Better yet. Change the system to not need special tools. It should just pop up with a prompt the first boot.

Warning! Non-official Apple component detected or replacement by non Authorized service provider. This may put the security of your device at risk. Did you authorize this? Yes/No. Do you want to trust this in the Secure Enclave? Y/No. Each followed by a password prompt.

Then it should just log this in the firmware. Using or not using the device without further complaint. Authorizing or not allowing the device in the secure enclave based on the users response.

Any further note should just be a warning listed under About in Settings. Also a warning after a full system reset on the initial setup screen. Just to make potential buyers aware that the phone may not have genuine parts.

I like right to repair as I repair stuff. But I'd like secondhand buyers to be able to trust the device they buy. They need a way to verify the devices integrity. While allowing the owner to use the device, repair the device, even with knockoff parts if they so choose. Without it being partially disabled or nagging the owner who authorized or even performed the repairs.

I also would want the flags findable for the owners themselves. As they may have used a third party shop which used knockoff parts. When they thought they were OEM parts or misled them into thinking the shop was an Authorized Service Provider.

For the concern of corporate, &c security. Devices managed by IT. Should have an option to automatically alert IT of non-authorized repairs and block trust. If IT decides to implement it.
 
Do other companies have to post their likelihood of failing scores. Repairability on Macs or even iOS devices is only critical if you either break it or something fails. For a Mac Mini, damage/breakage is likely low, so it comes down to failure. I've seen major failures with Dell and Surface products. Less so with Macs. I'd rather have a Repairabiltiy score of 5 vs a competitor's 7 if the reliability/failure rate on the Apple product is a 7 or 8 compared with a competitor's 4 or 5 (higher number being better).
 
How is the 11/pro score lower than the 12 when the 12 requires heat to open?
What does heat have to do with this? The 12 series have more hardware-locked components, the cameras for example on the 12, even if you use genuine parts, could fail to work properly. This isn't the case with the 11.
 
Eventually, assuming we make it as a species, I expect product repairability (as well as longevity and maybe even upgradability where applicable) will be mandated at some level almost world-wide. Unchecked greed, consumerism, and short-term over long-term thinking has proven to be unsustainable if we desire humanity to survive. For that we need balanced greed and consumerism. It's certainly doable, but it's the type of thing that seems like it has to be mandated most of the time, as it's rarely adopted voluntarily in any meaningful way. Anyway, it's companies like Apple that could be leading the way already. If any company could design something like this: https://www.engadget.com/framework-...able-swappable-right-to-repair-150022495.html extremely well, I think that would be Apple. Something that reduces waste by keeping as much as the product repairable (and upgradable) as possible. It's a win for the consumer, a win for the environment, and assuming the company producing the product also produces the components at a competitive price, a win for them as well. It would be pretty cool to be able to buy an M1 MacBook Pro today, and know that in 5 years you could easily repair or upgrade it if you desired to do so.
 
Repairability of anything electronic is not what it used to be. Technology has moved on past that, with everything being so compact, tin terms of the functionality of what used to be on 5 discrete circuit boards is now all on 1 board that is 1/4 of the size of and of the discrete boards were. If you open the devices, you will just have to replace entire modules which can cost as much as the entire unit.
Yes, and it's about to become a whole lot more integrated. People take for granted the standardized CPU + RAM + GPU + disk combo that computers have had for a while. Wasn't like that in the early/pre-PC days and won't be like that in the future.
 
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I wonder how many potential buyers will see this as they go to buy a phone and change their mind.
The score is probably meaningless, and even if it's not, I don't care about repairing my phone. Average phone lasts what, 2 years? I keep my phones much longer than average, but still, it's pretty easy to just not break my phone.

You know where this matters? Cars.
 
Well, it's pure greediness.
Cluing all together = profit

Look at the latest Macs, you can't swap RAM, nor the SSD anymore.
If it turns out that BigSur/M1 is really wearing SSDs out, like stated in the recent news, then customers will have a lot of fun.
1 Year later, when the warranty is over, Apple will say "it costs 300-600Eur to repair the logic board with the SSD".
Then the next lawsuit will knock on their door.

At the same time, they try to wear the white vest and put ******** marketing sites like that up:

It could be the most bigoted company on this planet... Simply disgusting.
 
Funnily enough, my Mac tells me, that the environment site of apple uses a lot of memory and energy.


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Well, that's good for a laugh. Yeah, go ahead, try and fix that iDevice or M1 Mac on your own, especially when their proprietary SSD stick wears out prematurely. Wonder what Apple would charge you just for the SSD (and not the disassembly and installation required.....

What do the Air-Pods/Buds/headphone cans rate? A Zero? You can't replace the battery, even if you could access it without totally destroying your Air-
You just seem upset, apple is expensive if you can’t afford it no reason to get upset,right?
 
How is the 11/pro score lower than the 12 when the 12 requires heat to open?
how many people do you honestly think are interested in ”opening“ their phone? .5% of people that own an iPhone? Who cares, the majority of people have no urge to fix their own phone, my guess its just the cheapos
 
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