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I bought an iPad Air 5 last November and I’m quite happy with it. As such I have zero reason to upgrade for the next few years. But if they did release are larger iPad Air I might do some soul searching and consider it.

I want to see the upgraded iMac. I like its design and the AIO configuration, but I want extra power and RAM. 16GB isn’t enough.
 
The iPad line has run out of runway. Other than a very few specific verticals, they're pretty much just fancier Chromebooks. Some schools are buying them but fewer and fewer every year - the bottom dollar price is what gets you in K-12 and Google and Microsoft are happy to beat Apple on price no matter what that price point may be.

I love my iPad for photo editing, I think it's the best photo editing tool I've ever used. But that isn't a big enough market for Apple to devote tons of R&D toward with the company's scale today.
 
How about an IPad LIGHT??!!!. The big iPad is heavier than a MacBook Air with the keyboard!
“FaceTime camera only, 90hz display and LIGHT”. CPU is a commodity by now despite all the marketing hype.
 
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The iPad line has run out of runway. Other than a very few specific verticals, they're pretty much just fancier Chromebooks. Some schools are buying them but fewer and fewer every year - the bottom dollar price is what gets you in K-12 and Google and Microsoft are happy to beat Apple on price no matter what that price point may be.

I love my iPad for photo editing, I think it's the best photo editing tool I've ever used. But that isn't a big enough market for Apple to devote tons of R&D toward with the company's scale today.
I mean, Apple could alway choose to give away those iPads to schools and whatnot to maintain education market presence. It’s really up to them to commit, bars maybe legal pressures.
 
If the rumor about an A16 chip in the Mini turns out to be true, then Apple is out of touch with its customers’ desires. The Mini deserves nothing less than an M1 chip. Most Mini users see the devices as - or at least want them to be - higher end. And if the A16 is going to the Mini, it sounds like Apple will drag out the A15 yet again for the base iPad.

Frankly, I think both the Air and the Mini should have M2 chips with the M1 going to the base iPad. I personally think the Air and the Mini should be technically equal and simply offer two sizes. It’s time to leave the A-series chips to the iPhone.

But when is the last time Apple listened to its customers? As far as they’re concerned, the customer is Wall Street.
 
The UK still has the "Back to school" promo on until the end of the coming week so I don't see them releasing iPads until this has finished.
 
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Apple is making progress on new iPad and MacBook models, but Bloomberg's Mark Gurman believes that the release of these devices "won't happen this month."

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"More often than not, the company debuts new laptops and iPads in October — about a month after the latest iPhone and watch get out the door," said Gurman, in his Power On newsletter today. "And while I reported in July that Apple was planning such a release this year, the latest indications are that it won't happen this month."

Gurman went on to say that new iPad Air, iPad mini, and entry-level iPad models are all in development with faster chips, but he does not believe that "updates of any significance are imminent." This wording is more vague compared to his above claim that iPad releases "won't happen this month" whatsoever.

Last month, Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said "new iPad models are unlikely before the year's end." If this claim is accurate, 2023 would be the first calendar year with no new iPads announced in the device's 13-year history.

As for MacBooks, Gurman expects the next 14-inch MacBook Pro, 16-inch MacBook Pro, 13-inch MacBook Air, and 15-inch MacBook Air models to launch in the first half of 2024. He did not comment on the iMac or other Macs.

Supercharged News and 9to5Mac this weekend both independently reported that Apple plans to announce updated iPad Air, iPad mini, and entry-level iPad models this week, citing sources. Both publications said the iPad Air will be updated with the M2 chip, and said the iPad mini will be updated with the A16 Bionic chip.

It should be a fascinating week ahead for the rumor mill. Who will be right? We will soon find out.

Article Link: Apple Rumored to Announce New iPads This Week, But Gurman Says Release 'Won't Happen This Month'
Hope iPad mini update materializes. For sure, I will get it. It does not matter if the updates are not major, updates are improvements from previous generation which make a current generation product a step ahead of the previous one👍🎉😊
 
Apple is being smart, they know budgets are being stretched thin especially in an economy that’s somewhat in a recession. The focus I believe is to have major gaps between product launches so consumers can afford what they need instead of feeling pressured to buy every new gadget the company launches in 12 months.

M2 MacBook Pros in January
15 inch Air, as well as updates to Studio and Mac Pro in June
iPhones and Apple watches in September

That’s a reasonable gap between refreshes. The M2 13 inch more than meets the needs for its target audience. Rushing out an M3 model is not gonna necessarily make someone’s basic web browsing, Youtube, social media, email, Slack and Google/Workspace stuff any faster than it already is.

The same applies to the iMac too. The target audience is not looking for feeds and speeds. The just want a nice computer that’s on a table next to their bed or in the living room, they can watch Amazon Prime, Facetime the grand kids, manage their household budgets, look at their photos and maybe create a short 5 minute movie of their trip to the lake over the weekend.

None of this requires a super fast SoC to accomplish. You could very well accomplish this on a 2012 MacBook Pro.

I still see Intel iMacs in peoples apartments. That says something.

But I get it, we are obsessed with the latest and greatest sometimes out of curiosity. Give Apple the time to develop revs of these future products and enjoy what you have now.

Also, go outside, inhale the fresh air, go over to a family or friends house and talk and live in moment a little instead of these squares all day.
That was very well said. Computers are just tools that help us get things done fast so we don’t think about them no more.
 
I mean, Apple could alway choose to give away those iPads to schools and whatnot to maintain education market presence. It’s really up to them to commit, bars maybe legal pressures.

I know Apple does leases with schools at favorable terms - not sure the actual pricing - but it's possible to buy field-repairable Chromebooks for $100 - and Windows laptops like the Surface SE for basically the same price.
 
If the rumor about an A16 chip in the Mini turns out to be true, then Apple is out of touch with its customers’ desires. The Mini deserves nothing less than an M1 chip. Most Mini users see the devices as - or at least want them to be - higher end. And if the A16 is going to the Mini, it sounds like Apple will drag out the A15 yet again for the base iPad.

Frankly, I think both the Air and the Mini should have M2 chips with the M1 going to the base iPad. I personally think the Air and the Mini should be technically equal and simply offer two sizes. It’s time to leave the A-series chips to the iPhone.

But when is the last time Apple listened to its customers? As far as they’re concerned, the customer is Wall Street.
There is no point in putting an M series chip in the mini when the current and rumored chip can run it easily with much to spare, especially with the OS being the main crippling factor of the chips real ability.
 
My vote is for Gurman. Even if he is wrong, these would be quite minor spec bumps not worthy of an upgrade from anything recent.

One can't be wrong if- in a variety of predictions- they predict:
  • they are coming
  • they aren't coming
  • some are coming
  • none are coming
  • this one's coming
  • that one's coming
  • in October
  • in November
  • in December
  • in 2024
  • Etc.
Pile up all possibilities and one will definitely be right with one of them.;)

That bit of fun is with all due respect to Mr. Gurman. He is smart enough to do what we all do for free... but get paid for it.
 
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Odd that he's laying down that the M3 Pro and Max would be coming out before the M3 Air. I guess putting the M3 Air back would allow them to line up the 13" and 15" updates though.
 
The fact that the iPad has gotten more reliable chip bumps in the Apple Silicon era than a wide variety of Macs is somewhat confusing

Also - will the iPad Air get the landscape camera?
 
Odd that he's laying down that the M3 Pro and Max would be coming out before the M3 Air. I guess putting the M3 Air back would allow them to line up the 13" and 15" updates though.

M3 Pro and M3 Max coming before the base M3 also implies that the M3 iMac, would be delayed until later next year as well (if it is ever coming)
 
I'm intrigued by the iPad mini in general, but I'll need to see it in person after release (or at least an existing one) to see if the screen size would be sufficient for me. I tend to use my current iPad for a lot of comic/magazine reading.
 
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I don’t see all three non-Pro iPads being refreshed in a week. I can’t see them failing to release an 11th Gen, but which of the others they do is anyone’s guess. It’s Mini’s turn, but previous releases show there to be no great enthusiasm for it by Apple (long gaps, only 4GB RAM in the Mini 6 when they must have known they’d be doubling the Air’s within months; releasing the Mini 3 with the same internals as the Mini 2.)
 
If the rumor about an A16 chip in the Mini turns out to be true, then Apple is out of touch with its customers’ desires. The Mini deserves nothing less than an M1 chip. Most Mini users see the devices as - or at least want them to be - higher end. And if the A16 is going to the Mini, it sounds like Apple will drag out the A15 yet again for the base iPad.

The devices are just just solely a ’pissing match’ about status on computational ‘horsepower’ . The SoC actually has to fit also . The A-series and even the plain Mn SOCs have substantially different footprints on the logic board ( i.e. biggger logic board area requirement and battery area requiremen.). The mainstream A-series stack memory directly on top of the Apple designed die to save space. The M-series do not. The result is a relatively much bigger package for the M-series.

But the iPas Air has one . Well the Air has a 3 inches more diameter screen . For the mini a wider logic probably means eating into the space that the battery occupies . if thd mini isn’t not made thicker that results in a loss of battery volume and hence battery capacity. That is exactly the opposite of what you want to do if sticking in a SoC that consumes substantially more power.


Teardown for mini ( board - battery visible in video overview )



Tear down for Air 5. ( about 3:58 )




there is no copious extra room in the Mini . The M-series also costs more ( bigger die leads to higher fabrication costs) . Folks can claim the Mini is about higher prices but the higher it’s price the more problematic market placement it has . Too close or too far from the larger entry iPad model the feeer they will sell .

if people had their underwear in a twist about ‘more horsepowe‘ for the Mini it should be at A-series Pro ( A17 Pro ) . there is no logicboard footprint creep and in a more similar compute space as the M1 .


Frankly, I think both the Air and the Mini should have M2 chips with the M1 going to the base iPad. I personally think the Air and the Mini should be technically equal and simply offer two sizes. It’s time to leave the A-series chips to the iPhone.


The base iPad getting more expensive is a good way to kill the product . Long term trickle down of a A12 Pro would be good enough . ‘Old’ Mn are not going to get cheaper than ’old’ A-series options.
the relatively regular forays of the entry iPad into the $250-280 is what is moving lots of units . Toss that in the trash can and Apple is going to have growth problems.


But when is the last time Apple listened to its customers? As far as they’re concerned, the customer is Wall Street.

last time ? When started control thr price creep on entry iPads.
 
If Apple does release a new mini 7, I may get one depending on how much difference there will be between the mini 6.
I hope its more than a processor bump unless that processor is the M series.

But the mini 6 is plenty fast enough and Ive never done anything on mine where Ive thought it was slow or that it could be faster.

If the only change is an Ann to an Ann processor then its not a worthy upgrade for any existing 6 owners.

Of course theres the screen and if they upgraded that then theres another reason to consider the upgrade.
 
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