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"Decorative component" -- LOL

Thats a flowery way of describing attention away from your increasingly large obtrusive and ugly camera bezel.
 
In 2026, attention will reportedly turn to the front of the device. Apple is expected to remove the Dynamic Island, the pill-shaped cutout that houses the front camera and Face ID components introduced on the iPhone 14 Pro, and replace it with a single circular punch-hole cutout for the selfie camera. The hardware for Face ID will be hidden beneath the display.
Welcome to 2018, smdh. This is the worst design choice they could've opted for and I hope it isn't true. The punch hole in the corner of the screen looks more ridiculous than a notch or centered punch hole, imo. Come on Apple.
 
I actually really like the Dynamic Island and wouldn't want to see it go. I find it useful.
 
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Personally I hope they don’t do the under-screen camera unless the tech is truly ready, which it doesn’t seem to be currently.

I have one on my Fold and the quality is pretty bad compared to the other front camera which has a pinhole. Theres a softness and cloudiness to the photos. Samsung even replaced it with a pinhole cutout on their Fold 6 special edition (their flagship in Asia that we don’t get here).

Also, for those who haven’t used one, the resolution of the screen over the camera isn’t the same as the rest of the display, it’s much lower, so you can still see where it is. Not sure if other brands are using a different technology but that’s what it’s like on my Fold.
 
One important aspect of Touch ID to me is the tactile experience, that you can basically grab it and adjust your grip blindly. Underscreen fingerprint sensors are localized, meaning that you have to place your finger at a specific location of the screen, and since there is no tactile feedback, you have to look at the screen to place your finger correctly. For me that defeats much of the benefit of Touch ID over Face ID.

I have a CMF Phone 1 for development purposes. It has underscreen fingerprint reading. It's fast and reliable. And the haptic engine actually works really well when detecting your finger. If a midrange android can do it, so can Apple. There is no excuse.
 
I have a CMF Phone 1 for development purposes. It has underscreen fingerprint reading. It's fast and reliable. And the haptic engine actually works really well when detecting your finger. If a midrange android can do it, so can Apple. There is no excuse.
Are you saying that you can feel where the fingerprint sensor is located with your finger?

From what I’ve read, the fingerprint sensor in the CMF 1 is also slightly visible, which Apple likely wouldn’t do.
 
Personally I hope they don’t do the under-screen camera unless the tech is truly ready, which it doesn’t seem to be currently.

I have one on my Fold and the quality is pretty bad compared to the other front camera which has a pinhole. Theres a softness and cloudiness to the photos. Samsung even replaced it with a pinhole cutout on their Fold 6 special edition (their flagship in Asia that we don’t get here).

Also, for those who haven’t used one, the resolution of the screen over the camera isn’t the same as the rest of the display, it’s much lower, so you can still see where it is. Not sure if other brands are using a different technology but that’s what it’s like on my Fold.
For the front-facing/selfie camera, I might be fine with one in which the area of the screen above it becomes transparent enough, when the camera is in use, that it doesn't interfere with the camera, and when the camera isn't in use this area of the screen would be indistinguishable from the rest of the screen. But maybe Apple finds that an inelegant solution.
 
I actually really like the Dynamic Island and wouldn't want to see it go. I find it useful.
From what I've read, Apple plans to continue the Dynamic Island via software, at least for some ensuing iPhone generations.
 
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The leak describes the move to a "horizontal large matrix lens decorative component." This change is set to be the first major update to the iPhone's rear camera module since the introduction of the iPhone 11 Pro.
But all rumors to this point, including leaked case designs, show that the square camera bump will remain, even as the "platform" it's on will be extended across nearly the full width of the upper part of the back. But maybe that's what's meant by the "decorative component".
 
My 12 Pro Max is 5 years old, looks and performs just as good as the latest. At least it looks older then because none of these gimmicks will make a significant difference and you'll forget about them on day 1.
Completely true. I switch between a 15 Pro and a 16 throughout the day (one is work phone) and I am absolutely unaware of any difference between the two when using. I even just had to check the 16 now to see if it had a notch or an island. Whichever model I had before the 16 had the notch, I think. I’ve tried the camera button a few times when getting the 16, and then forgot it’s there.

The main user experience difference for me would be battery life, as the year old 15 Pro doesn’t make it through the day, despite that I don’t use it very much as I’m usually typing emails on the 16.

The main design difference for me would be no camera bump. I don’t use a case in either, and the camera bump is just annoying. I can’t tap on the screen when it’s lying flat, I can’t use many wireless chargers, and it’s also (subjectively) ugly.
 
I mean....design something that people actually want.

- Lighter iphone, not thinner. No one want to break the iphone because it's too thin. The phone is getting heavier every single version.
- Better battery life. Not thinner that lead to smaller battery. And then not adding another external battery on that thinner phone so that it will have the same battery life as the last generation, this is plain stupid.
- Hide the camera under the screen.
- Bring back touch id under the screen.
- Make the iphone actually able to sit horizontally on a desk, yea that camera on the back.
- Chatgpt like Siri that would be able to interact with the phone
- Allow Music app to display a language other than the phone language just like almost every single app is able to. Or at least allow Music app to display the original language of the song and the singer, not some bizzare translation in English.
I would love apple to separate apple account in music and in app store! i use different apple accounts for them
 
"Apple is reportedly preparing to implement significant iPhone hardware redesigns each year for the next three generations."

Call those changes SIGNIFICANT? My goodness, how Apple has declined. They are just drip-feeding upgrades that could have been done 5 years ago in a single step.

What about something really significant, for example: Increase the battery life to 1 week and simultaneously reduce the weight of the largest phone to less than 100g? Both of those are achievable with just little R&D.

And when is the iPhone Svelte coming out, a phone that really fits in the pocket?
 
What is the point of touch I.D. when Face I.D. works well?

More options. If you want to use face ID, you use face id. For those who want to use touch ID, there should be an option like all other phone in the world that let you use touch based authentication. Better yet, enable both will allow you to use face id and touch id at the same time.

* More options = better. Everyone can choose whatever they like. As a matter of fact, almost all other phone in the world let you use both except iPhone. They give you options.
 
I mean....design something that people actually want.

- Lighter iphone, not thinner. No one want to break the iphone because it's too thin. The phone is getting heavier every single version.
Regular iPhone - No
iPhone 13 - 6.14oz
iPhone 14 - 6.07 oz
iPhone 15 - 6.02 oz
iPhone 16 - 6.00 oz

iPhone Pro - Kind of
13 Pro - 7.19 oz
14 Pro - 7.27 oz
15 Pro - 6.6 oz
16 Pro - 7.03 oz
 
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For the front-facing/selfie camera, I might be fine with one in which the area of the screen above it becomes transparent enough, when the camera is in use, that it doesn't interfere with the camera, and when the camera isn't in use this area of the screen would be indistinguishable from the rest of the screen. But maybe Apple finds that an inelegant solution.
No one has solved that issue yet.

So far the image quality is worse and the camera circle has a kind of glimmer shine to it which is visible compared to what's next to it.

Apple probably wont do an under screen camera that until they solve both issues.
 
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"Apple is reportedly preparing to implement significant iPhone hardware redesigns each year for the next three generations."

Call those changes SIGNIFICANT? My goodness, how Apple has declined. They are just drip-feeding upgrades that could have been done 5 years ago in a single step.
Apple isn't calling them anything, the rumor mill is.

That being said, going from the current Dynamic Island pill to a hole punch with under screen Face ID isn't an insignificant change.
 
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I will update to the iphone 17 pro max & 19 pro max. But will pass on the 18 pro max, as the hole punch design cannot be seriously counted as a design change!

Also it does not seem feasible for apple to ditch the hole punch after a year. My gut feeling is Apple will introduce the hole punch design in the iphone 19 pro max.

Apples vision of a glass slab, will be more than likely delayed until its perfected to Apples standards.
 
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