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This is excellent news for Apple. With the Intel switch possibly less than a month away, I have to say that I am surprised that Macs are selling this well. But hey, being wrong is sometimes a good thing. :)
 
Just got a 30 in. HD ACD

BUT... I have no machine to drive it..... I have a 500 Ti Powerbook that is still the best PB ever made.. 4-5 ours battery, runs all my apps like a champ w/ 1G RAM and with OS speed up over the last 4/5 years is still a very snappy machine (though the 8MB video card will never be Extreme or give me dashboard liquidy effects)... so my question is... what should I get to drive this beast!

BTW my wife scrimped and saved (foregoing Golden Spoon Yogurt and new clothes!!!!) to get this for me... she's the best ;-)))))))

Should I wait for a new Intel DT Mac or go with a current G5 system or maybe a refurbed/refreshed/older model....

I'm quite happy with something like the 2ghz iMac I have at work and in any case I'd like something like it for performance.

Does anyone have a setup they are really happy with that might be cheaper than buying a new system?????
 
p0intblank said:
This is excellent news for Apple. With the Intel switch possibly less than a month away, I have to say that I am surprised that Macs are selling this well. But hey, being wrong is sometimes a good thing. :)

I think this is probably due to the fact that some of the people know about the switch and are perhaps leery about buying a Rev A Intel Mac (or they are Pro users who need to stay on PPC for now), and that the other people have no clue the Intel transition is coming and are just buying obliviously - perhaps they already think Macs have "Intel Inside". ;)

m-dogg said:
Hmmmmmm.....

January 10th.

MWSF Keynote. My birthday.

Coincidence?

My birthday is January 11th, so I think between the 2 of us, this can be no coincidence. ;) :D
 
supergod said:
I'm assuming that these are mostly first time mac buyers, right? Is someone familiar with the system actually going to shell out money now for a pre-intel mac?

We just bought a PowerBook 15", an iMac and an iBook because we want PPC for its support of Classic applications and I do not want to have a Rev. A MacIntel with all the problems it will have. We have real work to get done and don't feel like playing guinea pig. Better the devil I know... :)

Frankly, if MacIntels aren't going to support Classic applications then I'm not interested in them. We have too much in house data and their related applications that only run under Classic. Classic works wonderfully on PPC MacOS X 10.3 and 10.4 so we'll just stick with that. If Apple wants our hardware sales they'll need to continue supporting Classic. There are a lot of businesse owners that I have talked with who feel the same way. Dropping support for Classic is going to cost Apple hardware and software sales.
 
I am still buying!

Maybe I am not too bright, but tomorrow I am taking delivery of a 2nd PowerMac. I have a 2x2.0 and have just been waiting for the dualie to be released. I could have bought it sooner, but the 7800 upgrade slowed the delivery. I also bought 4 iPods as gifts (and received a Nano in return).

I have no hesitation in buying the the PPC. I am mainly doing amature video production and am satisfied with my present PowerMac. I just needed to add some more horsepower for rendering/compressing with the H.264. Some folk seem to be worried about protecting their investment due to the imminent arrival of the Intel boxes. Well, if it makes sense to them, then it is the right choice.

I also have a Powerbook 1.5. For upgrading it, I AM going to wait for Intel offerings to come out. My current machine works fine for what I am doing and I feel in no hurry to upgrade. When I do, the new machine will have to have significant performance improvement.

Also, the last of my family members just converted to Apple this week. My dad got an iMac 20" for Christmas. We have not seen him since.
 
pubwvj said:
We just bought a PowerBook 15", an iMac and an iBook because we want PPC for its support of Classic applications and I do not want to have a Rev. A MacIntel with all the problems it will have. We have real work to get done and don't feel like playing guinea pig. Better the devil I know... :)

Frankly, if MacIntels aren't going to support Classic applications then I'm not interested in them. We have too much in house data and their related applications that only run under Classic. Classic works wonderfully on PPC MacOS X 10.3 and 10.4 so we'll just stick with that. If Apple wants our hardware sales they'll need to continue supporting Classic. There are a lot of businesse owners that I have talked with who feel the same way. Dropping support for Classic is going to cost Apple hardware and software sales.


i'm sorry, but i have a hard time believing that OTHER business cant upgrade.

It's been YEARS... YEARS since osX has come out and there have been 4 versions of osX that has come out. There are next to no classic apps that i know of that cant be opened by the osX app.

why cant just people let classic die!

what appz are you using?
 
manu chao said:
Just to add my voice to the chorus, on Friday I overheard a shop assistant in an Apple store in Switzerland saying that iPod nanos were sold out in the whole of Europe. Instead he was trying to sell a customer a voucher for an iPod nano plus an accessory to put something physical under the Christmass tree.
We were pretty well stocked up on iPod nanos this season, although we had very few 4GB flavours. We had only white 2GB nanos for most of the last week before Christmas, selling the last one of those Thursday evening. Luckily, we got 135 black 2GB nanos in shortly after opening on Friday, so despite the limited choice customers had, they were pretty big sellers, (by the end of Christmas Eve, I think we had only got a few dozen left, not bad for just over a days trade).

In totoal, I would say that between mid-November and Christmas Eve, we were out of stock of all iPod nanos for a total of no more than 10 days. Not bad, and the main reason we bucked the trend so much in the retail sector, (which is in a small decline in the UK, whereas our stores are all slightly up and our department of our store was consistantly up 25-50% every day through the above period). Thanks for the help Apple.:)

pubwvj said:
We just bought a PowerBook 15", an iMac and an iBook because we want PPC for its support of Classic applications and I do not want to have a Rev. A MacIntel with all the problems it will have. We have real work to get done and don't feel like playing guinea pig. Better the devil I know... :)

Frankly, if MacIntels aren't going to support Classic applications then I'm not interested in them. We have too much in house data and their related applications that only run under Classic. Classic works wonderfully on PPC MacOS X 10.3 and 10.4 so we'll just stick with that. If Apple wants our hardware sales they'll need to continue supporting Classic. There are a lot of businesse owners that I have talked with who feel the same way. Dropping support for Classic is going to cost Apple hardware and software sales.
That's what happens in computing though, will Microsoft still support Windows 3.1 or 95 apps in Vista? I doubt it somehow.

I know this isn't a fair comparison, but times move on. While it would be nice for Apple to support Classic or for more software running under OSX to allow opening files originally saved under classic apps, that are now no longer available/supported, we must move on overall. We can't support an older Operating Environment because there are an ever decreasing minority who need classic. If you still have hardware to run the apps, you can always buy more time for the transition.

I of course in no way intend to offend any Classic users, just pointing out the harsh reality of Mac OS.
 
amateurmacfreak said:
Haha, thanks. I just realized how funny and whiny my first post was. And I wasn't deliberately trying to be tounge-in-cheek although it sort of happened subconciously tounge-in-cheekly (agh, I'm trying to make an adverb), if that makes any sense at all. I guess I'm just scared something awful is going to happen to me like it did to my friend with the iPod w/ video being released 16 days after an iPod photo purchase. But on a much larger scale. With an iMac. :( :p Ok, anyways, I'm happy. I like the iMac G5. :D

I am in the same situation :) I am nervous about getting a iMac and have it outdate in January. I'm tempted to wait till after MWSF just to see. You never know. But I have already sold my old Mac Mini online so I am Mac-less for now :( I may just get the G5 anyways... I usually get a new Mac once a year anyways. Plus its not like there will be tons of native software for x86 right away.

But I will be helping apple look good for the 1Q of 06.... new iPod and new iMac :) I cannot wait.
 
amateurmacfreak said:
Um... am I really, really stupid for buying an iMac G5 for Christmas?? I haven't opened it yet so... I could still take it back. Seriously, I feel so stupid now... was that a super dumb thing to do? Should I take it back?

No, not at all. I just got a new iMac too. Open it up and enjoy!
 
Communism the official Apple religion?

So what's the deal... No Christmas mentions on Apple's website, and now Mac rumors is reporting strong sales for 'Holiday' -- as a proper noun.

So, just what exactly is 'Holiday?' Or did you accidentally misspell Christmas?
 
Amdahl said:
So what's the deal... No Christmas mentions on Apple's website, and now Mac rumors is reporting strong sales for 'Holiday' -- as a proper noun.

So, just what exactly is 'Holiday?' Or did you accidentally misspell Christmas?
So we should exclude Jewish people?
This is truly the "Holiday" season, because more than one Holiday is taking place around this time.

(BTW: this is coming from a Christian.)

EDIT: I forgot New Year's.
 
mmzplanet said:
I am in the same situation :) I am nervous about getting a iMac and have it outdate in January. I'm tempted to wait till after MWSF just to see. You never know. But I have already sold my old Mac Mini online so I am Mac-less for now :( I may just get the G5 anyways... I usually get a new Mac once a year anyways. Plus its not like there will be tons of native software for x86 right away.

But I will be helping apple look good for the 1Q of 06.... new iPod and new iMac :) I cannot wait.

I'm on my iMac G5. Loving it soo much. :D I don't know, I'm just so into it right now, but I'd go ahead and get it, because I think iMac updates would be very, very unlikely at MWSF, and it's just too sad to be Mac-less.:( :) I think iMacs(maybe Powermacs) are the best to buy right now pre-Intel. They're great computers, and it's looking like they're the ones least due for an update... I bought this iMac knowing it will probably be my last PPC purchase ever, and I'm happy with that. It's a good goodbye. :)

m-dogg said:
No, not at all. I just got a new iMac too. Open it up and enjoy!
Haha, thanks, have done! Totally loving this computer! :)
 
EricNau said:
So we should exclude Jewish people?
This is truly the "Holiday" season, because more than one Holiday is taking place around this time.

(BTW: this is coming from a Christian.)

EDIT: I forgot New Year's.
You slightly missed the point! He was trying to point out that they are using "Holiday" as a proper noun. For example, "What are you doing for Holiday?", or "I want a new red bicycle for Holiday".
 
PCMacUser said:
You slightly missed the point! He was trying to point out that they are using "Holiday" as a proper noun. For example, "What are you doing for Holiday?", or "I want a new red bicycle for Holiday".
Did he also notice that both "Sales" and "Strong" were also capitalized? It's a title.

In the original post, they said
Macrumors said:


Forbes reports on Piper Jaffray analyst research on Apple's sales strength this holiday season.
...

Never did MR use "holiday" as a proper noun.
 
EricNau said:
So we should exclude Jewish people?
This is truly the "Holiday" season, because more than one Holiday is taking place around this time.

(BTW: this is coming from a Christian.)

EDIT: I forgot New Year's.
I think part of the rant you refer to is about the usage of "Apple Sales Strong for Holiday" rather than "the Holiday [season]". I do however agree that we often overlook other religions in the West during times like these. A lot of Muslims and Hindus I work alongside won't/didn't celebrate Christmas, yet were still forced to have the 25th and 26th off, but work during their holy times, (they don't have to, but rather than cashing in these two days, they are forced to take them and potentially lose money at another time).

In saying that though, Christmas in the West is becoming more of a general family time for giving. I know many people of non-Christian faiths who were giving presents to their children. I am an ex-Catholic, current Athiest, but I still use Christmas as a time for family and giving.

Apple could start to target other holidays perhaps, but we know Christmas is the biggest for gift-giving and at the times of other festivals, stocks are generally good. They just seem to be lower at this time of year.
 
While I plead guilty to picking myself up a black 60GB iPod w/video a couple weeks before X-MAS, I resisted the urge to get a Mac this holiday! But if an Intel PowerBook were to arrive in a couple weeks...I might not be able to resist any longer. :)
 
LaMerVipere said:
Why I plead guilty to picking myself up a black 60GB iPod w/video a couple weeks before X-MAS, I resisted the urge to get a Mac this holiday! But if an Intel PowerBook were to arrive in a couple weeks...I might not be able to resist any longer. :)
Yep, I am buying a fair few things in the next couple of days/weeks, but my late Christmas present to myself will be a new 15" intel PowerBook. Just how late a gift will it be though.....
 
So, does anyone no how many Mac Mini Units were sold Q3 & Currently Q4 (05)? Or how much money was gained for Apple by the Mac Mini???

Anyone:confused:

PS: I have checked with no avail Apple.com/investor
 
EricNau said:
So we should exclude Jewish people?
This is truly the "Holiday" season, because more than one Holiday is taking place around this time.

(BTW: this is coming from a Christian.)

EDIT: I forgot New Year's.
They are already excluded. Hanukkah isn't even one of the top 7 Jewish feasts.

Hanukkah is only dragged along for the ride in countries where they need something to package with Christmas.

EricNau said:
Did he also notice that both "Sales" and "Strong" were also capitalized? It's a title.

In the original post, they said


Never did MR use "holiday" as a proper noun.
It is used as a singular noun, apparently in an attempt to create a new atheistic event known as 'Holiday.' If MR was trying to play along with the P.C.-police, it would have said 'holidays,' capitalized or not.

steve_hill4 said:
A lot of Muslims and Hindus I work alongside won't/didn't celebrate Christmas, yet were still forced to have the 25th and 26th off, but work during their holy times, (they don't have to, but rather than cashing in these two days, they are forced to take them and potentially lose money at another time).
Guess they should have read the disclaimer on those INS documents before they left their homelands: Warning: Now entering Christian nation.

In saying that though, Christmas in the West is becoming more of a general family time for giving. I know many people of non-Christian faiths who were giving presents to their children. I am an ex-Catholic, current Athiest, but I still use Christmas as a time for family and giving.
Wow, how original! I wonder if that might catch on?

Apple could start to target other holidays perhaps, but we know Christmas is the biggest for gift-giving and at the times of other festivals, stocks are generally good.
96% of Americans report they celebrate Christmas. If Apple wants to diss those people and target the other 4%.. well, that would be very Apple of them.
 
steve_hill4 said:
In saying that though, Christmas in the West is becoming more of a general family time for giving. I know many people of non-Christian faiths who were giving presents to their children. I am an ex-Catholic, current Athiest, but I still use Christmas as a time for family and giving.

This has been going on for a long time. I know countless people who are not Christian, yet still celebrate Christmas - they don't even think about it, really. It is truly a time for giving, thanks and love, so it is not simply a religious thing anymore, even though that was obviously the root a long time ago.

Anyway, OT, sorry...
 
~Shard~ said:
This has been going on for a long time. I know countless people who are not Christian, yet still celebrate Christmas - they don't even think about it, really. It is truly a time for giving, thanks and love, so it is not simply a religious thing anymore, even though that was obviously the root a long time ago.
Next thing you know, you'll be having Easter Egg hunts in the Spring, dressing up as little demons & monsters on All Souls Eve, thanking God for another good year in November, and wondering how it came to be that your calendar revolves around Christian religious festivals. Lord save us!
 
Amdahl said:
Next thing you know, you'll be having Easter Egg hunts in the Spring, dressing up as little demons & monsters on All Souls Eve, thanking God for another good year in November, and wondering how it came to be that your calendar revolves around Christian religious festivals. Lord save us!

Just as long as we don't forget the true meaning of Christmas - the birth of Santa. :cool:

Yep, I think it's great that all these holidays are more "universal" and celebrated by everyone, regardless of their religious background - that's the way it should be.

Anyway, enough of this talk, or else this thread will quickly get relegated to a more suitable Forum. ;) Back on topic regarding Apple sales, I think it's great to see the numbers so strong, especially with MWSF coming up. I realize not everyone even knows about MWSF, let along that new products will be released at that time, but I think that people either don't care, are unaware, or they realize that many new products are released after Christmas in every industry, and that this isn't just an Apple thing. Why do you think they have all these Boxing Day blow-outs and whatnot? To get rid of old stock to bring in new stuff! Regardless, as I said, it's great for Apple, and I think 2006 will be even better. :cool:
 
JGowan said:
FYI: "Kwanzaa" for most of the 18 million people celebrating what you're most likely referring to is spelled with two A's, not one. Not trying to be a spelling alert nerd, but it is a Proper noun and I thought you'd like to get it right if you happen to make out cards or something.

You misspelled "Chanukah", too.
And Ramadan has been over.

ksz said:
Sorry to point out another correction! As I recall, Muslims celebrate "Eid" (pronounced 'eed' with a soft 'd') twice a year, one of which comes after the end of Ramadan. Ramadan itself is not a time of celebration, it's a time of fasting and reflecting upon the needs of the not-so-fortunate.
That is correct, and the other Eid is after Hajj.

Amdahl said:
Guess they should have read the disclaimer on those INS documents before they left their homelands: Warning: Now entering Christian nation.

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What a stupid thing to say. As if ppl who worship in other religions are exclusively immigrants.
I am a proud muslim and us born american citizen, and so are my parents, and their parents too. WTF are you talking about?:mad: :mad: :mad:

And just so you know Black Americans---yes AMERICANS make up the largest percentage of the Muslim population in the United States.

Get your facts straight.

ETA: I have edited my post to remove namecalling which I have been informed thru a friendly pm that it is against the rules.
 
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