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I really wished more retailers accepted it here. Starbucks just started accepting it a few months ago but usually most places here have no clue what it is or say it's broken when I try to use it. Been using it in my travels to the U.K., Europe and Canada since launch without any issues, but back home in the US, nope. Kind of embarrassing how behind we are on somethings.
 
We've had chip-and-pin (EMV) in the UK for a long time. I'm usually collecting goods/receipts/interacting with the cashier at the same time as the card reader is responding, so EMV is not obviously slower than contactless to me (especially as you occasionally need to enter a PIN with the contactless cards, and there will need to be an online handshake for most transactions, both contactless and EMV). My major delay is generally waiting in the checkout queue for my turn to be served. I haven't tried Apple Pay yet despite having it available for two years - I've not needed to and my phone is usually in a less convenient place than my wallet [and also more valuable/fragile], so I'd have to consciously want to try it out. I'll probably keep it for emergencies, since I wouldn't expect it to make much difference to total checkout time (except for direct entry as with the London Underground). Amazon Go does sound like it might be genuinely time saving, though - eliminating checkout queues/auto-registering each item could save a lot of time on a shop. Apple Pay online also doesn't sound like a big time saver, but could be more secure than entering card details.
Get a decent protective case, activate Apple Pay, feel the joy.
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Wait, hold on, please insert you card, wait a bit more, just a sec, ok..Now enter your PIN *beepbeepbeepbeep* wait... oh, don't forget to press Enter...*beep*...OK now just wait a min, we're nearly done, almost done, ok now we're done please remove card, ok phew, we're done.

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*click*...*beep*
Before moving to Apple Pay, the EMV terminals here were so slow that I'd start to think of smth else, and the beep was so quiet that I'd often forget to remove my card in a timely fashion (adding 2-3 sec to process.). Now with my Apple Watch I'm done in 1.5sec with nothing to pull out or put back and no receipt to fiddle with.
 
We've had chip-and-pin (EMV) in the UK for a long time. I'm usually collecting goods/receipts/interacting with the cashier at the same time as the card reader is responding, so EMV is not obviously slower than contactless to me (especially as you occasionally need to enter a PIN with the contactless cards, and there will need to be an online handshake for most transactions, both contactless and EMV). My major delay is generally waiting in the checkout queue for my turn to be served. I haven't tried Apple Pay yet despite having it available for two years - I've not needed to and my phone is usually in a less convenient place than my wallet [and also more valuable/fragile], so I'd have to consciously want to try it out. I'll probably keep it for emergencies, since I wouldn't expect it to make much difference to total checkout time (except for direct entry as with the London Underground). Amazon Go does sound like it might be genuinely time saving, though - eliminating checkout queues/auto-registering each item could save a lot of time on a shop. Apple Pay online also doesn't sound like a big time saver, but could be more secure than entering card details.

Apple Pay in Safari is faster on iPhone than it is Apple Watch.

Have used it on thetrainline.com and it's around as fast as the mobile app/an in store transaction.

My biggest bug bear is the places I tend to shop at are still capped at £30 for Apple Pay.
 
Sorry Apple, I don't use apple pay unless there's a promotion behind it like Discover had. At this point, you'd have to pay me to use it.
 
It's funny to me how many businesses I go to accept Apple Pay and don't actually realize it. I've seen people at the register at multiple grocery stores and even a restaurant outright surprised to see me use it, although one place actually advertises it on the display now (and their chip readers don't even work).

Personally, it's funny to me how it seems like the smaller places have much better support than the larger ones. Looking at the list of places I shop relatively regularly, we've got:

Accepts ApplePay:
Local single-location grocery store
Local two-location natural foods co-op
Local single-location pharmacy
Local lumber yard
Grocery Outlet (discount groceries)

Doesn't accept ApplePay:
Safeway
CVS
Costco
Ace hardware store
Local hardware store

Basically, all but one of the local places I shop do, and all but one of the big chains don't. I tend to shop local anyway, but it's actively encouraged me to avoid the other places, and I'd pick Walgreens over CVS just based on that if the nearest Walgreens wasn't 15 miles away instead of walking distance.

I do probably 90% of my shopping at the places that do accept it, so to me it's way more often than not.

I got the opportunity to try ApplePay on the web yesterday when my wife bought some shoes online and holy crap is that convenient. Click a button on my Mac, touch the fingerprint sensor on my phone, and boom, all my info is there and the order is complete! My wife couldn't believe it was that easy.
 
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I got the opportunity to try ApplePay on the web yesterday when my wife bought some shoes online and holy crap is that convenient. Click a button on my Mac, touch the fingerprint sensor on my phone, and boom, all my info is there and the order is complete! My wife couldn't believe it was that easy.

Clicking the Auto-Fill button in the toolbar is easier... ;)
 
It's funny to me how many businesses I go to accept Apple Pay and don't actually realize it. I've seen people at the register at multiple grocery stores and even a restaurant outright surprised to see me use it, although one place actually advertises it on the display now (and their chip readers don't even work).

Personally, it's funny to me how it seems like the smaller places have much better support than the larger ones. Looking at the list of places I shop relatively regularly, we've got:

Accepts ApplePay:
Local single-location grocery store
Local two-location natural foods co-op
Local single-location pharmacy
Local lumber yard
Grocery Outlet (discount groceries)

Doesn't accept ApplePay:
Safeway
CVS
Costco
Ace hardware store
Local hardware store

Basically, all but one of the local places I shop do, and all but one of the big chains don't. I tend to shop local anyway, but it's actively encouraged me to avoid the other places, and I'd pick Walgreens over CVS just based on that if the nearest Walgreens wasn't 15 miles away instead of walking distance.

I do probably 90% of my shopping at the places that do accept it, so to me it's way more often than not.

I got the opportunity to try ApplePay on the web yesterday when my wife bought some shoes online and holy crap is that convenient. Click a button on my Mac, touch the fingerprint sensor on my phone, and boom, all my info is there and the order is complete! My wife couldn't believe it was that easy.

I understand apple pay and "contactless" are different - but if a merchant accepts "contactless" then here in the UK apple pay works 100% of the time up to £30.00
I guess its the same in the US and other countries.

"Apple Pay works anywhere that accepts contactless payments,"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130870-apple-pay-explained-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work
The list of 'where apple pay is accepted' must have been a clever advertising ploy by apple.

Is the limit $30 in the states or a bit more say $50?
 
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I like it but it isn't always as convenient and frictionless as the demo they gave. In Whole Foods I still have to use the keypad and still have to sign at the end of the transaction. Some readers don't see the phone first time.
Plus I still have to carry my wallet for driving license, membership cards,etc. Unless it becomes universally accepted it's still just another option instead of the only thing I have to carry.

Online, however, it is spectacularly easy. Select Apple Pay as payment option > read fingerprint > done. All the address stuff and payment info conveyed instantly and securely. Love it.
 
I understand apple pay and "contactless" are different - but if a merchant accepts "contactless" then here in the UK apple pay works 100% of the time up to £30.00
I guess its the same in the US and other countries.

"Apple Pay works anywhere that accepts contactless payments,"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130870-apple-pay-explained-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work
The list of 'where apple pay is accepted' must have been a clever advertising ploy by apple.

Is the limit $30 in the states or a bit more say $50?
I don't think we have a limit here in the states since it is authenticated by fingerprint.
 
95% in Canada now, 94% in Canada when it launched. We've had EMV support for a while, and the cards work much better than they describe it by the way. It takes less than a second to do the beep most of the time. And it's rare you have to move it or whatever.

EDIT: I made a mistake and confused EMV with NFC contactless cards. What I mean to say is that we've had contactless here for a while. Though EMV isn't too bad, if I were to be honest.

Having used contactless payments for over a decade in canada, I always find it strange how most of the time when travelling in the US we were still swiping credit cards. Over the past year I've noticed they ask you to insert if you have a chip card. I was travelling in NY recently, many times I was asked if I had a chip card and to please insert it, yet it was a terminal that had tap to pay, so I was tapping my card and sometimes tapping my phone instead. They had no clue that was possible and kept insisting that I should be inserting the card.
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The population of Canada is roughly 35-36 million which does even equal the state of California.
How many terminals you think Canada has to replace as opposed to US with over 300 mil people?
Yeah US is late to game, however a roll out in Canada ain't equivalent to a roll out in the US.

That's a poor excuse. What about Europe? The US is a decade late to the game. We've been using chip and pin for well over a decade, as well as tap to pay for nearly as long.
 
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I don't think we have a limit here in the states since it is authenticated by fingerprint.

Hi
Thanks for the reply.
It looks like the 'floor limit' is between $25 and $50 in the States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactless_payment

It mentions Costco being $100 this is what I dont understand if Costco offer contactless yet @Makosuke say Costco DONT accept apple pay.
Here in UK Costco dont accept contactless but if they did then apple pay would be accepted.
 
95% in Canada now, 94% in Canada when it launched. We've had EMV support for a while, and the cards work much better than they describe it by the way. It takes less than a second to do the beep most of the time. And it's rare you have to move it or whatever.

EDIT: I made a mistake and confused EMV with NFC contactless cards. What I mean to say is that we've had contactless here for a while. Though EMV isn't too bad, if I were to be honest.

The Canadian card readers work a lot better than in the US. We chose to upgrade to a chip and signature model that uses a slower chip technology and bypasses the security of using a pin. In my opinion apple pay is far superior to both. It's faster and is great redundancy if you forget your wallet.
 
Apple Pay is the most convenient/efficient/safe form of payment. I wish it would be taken everywhere. The new credit card chip process is annoying and ridiculously slow. I will retire my PayPal account once Apple Pay gets wider traction for online payments.
 
I think a lot of the EMV hate is exaggerated, honestly
I don't. Using EMV is like going backwards in time compared with Apple Pay. I've yet to have a good experience with EMV. In every case, it's been a much slower process. And I have no idea what supposedly makes it more secure.

I do like Apple Pay a lot, but 35% of vendors still isn't much. And I've had many experiences where it's failed to work at vendors where previously it did work.

I use it whenever and wherever I can, and tend to shop places that have it. But they're still few and far between.
 
I use Apple Pay at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, RiteAid, and my favorite Mexican restaurant. And of course the local Apple store. Cashiers may not care about the delay with chipped cards, but the owners and managers do; it slows down their business.

I've reached the point that if I see the NFC payment symbol on the card reader, I go ahead and use Apple Pay, even if the merchants don't know about it if I ask. I've done that at a gardening nursery, and at the local Microsoft store. I bought a Surface Pro with Apple Pay!

One strong reason for buying an Apple Watch was for Apple Pay. It makes paying much easier, especially if you also have to dig out a loyalty card along with payment.
 
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Is ApplePay really a thing? is it picking up?

nature for verification, even with ApplePay sometimes. It's ridiculous, so I just draw a smiley face for a signature.

I never understood why they make you sign receipts, you can write anything and they will still accept it. How is that valuable to them?
 
Yes.

I love love love using Apple Pay. It's available at about 75% of places I shop even if they don't directly advertise it.

Anywhere I see the contactless symbol I give Apple Pay a try and 99% of the time it just works.

Local big box grocer, my co-op, small coffee shop, even my local gas station now accepts Apple Pay at the pump.

I've stopped carrying a full wallet and switched to a simple Mujjo card holder case on my iPhone to hold a license and an emergency card because Apple Pay takes care of the rest. It's gotten to the point of minor annoyance when I do have to take out my card. My wife was actually shocked Target doesn't accept it yet when she went shopping there yesterday.

Did you know you can search Apple Maps for "Apple Pay" and find retailers who accept it in a given location? Also, business descriptions specifically list Apple Pay as well when using Apple Maps.
 
Is ApplePay really a thing? is it picking up?



I never understood why they make you sign receipts, you can write anything and they will still accept it. How is that valuable to them?

I thought the retailer picked up the bill if they have shown to be negligent ie not checked the signature.

Apple pay must have virtual zero fraud, I'm amazed retailers are not falling over themselves to update their terminal.
Also the banks should offer big savings on the terminals as it will save them a fortune in the long run.
 
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I have to say.... it is such a pleasure using Apple Pay over the new chip card terminals. Holy crap they are slow!
Came here to say this!

As much as Apple has failed as of late, Apple Pay is amazing, and I love it.
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This story personally resonated...

The EMV delay is real and super annoying. I use ApplePay whenever possible.
It's annoying for the merchant as well. AP is convenient for both parties involved.
 
Apple Pay is a joy in the UK. I get the tube to work every day using it, I buy my coffee and lunch with it at anywhere I choose... quick and simple.
Wait you're doing PAYG for tube fares? Why not use an Oyster where you'd save yourself money as you're paying at least £400 more per year using PAYG vs Oyster and it goes up each time by £50 odd per additional zone.

I'm all for Apple Pay and ease of use but that's throwing money down the toilet.
 
It's simply a worse system than what we had with swiping. It demands a very specific set of actions from you done at specific times. It demands your attention at multiple steps.

We had reached the point with swiping where you could swipe the card at any time, even before the cashier had finished ringing up the order. Then you might have to sign when it's all done. Now it's wait for the prompts, try to find the stupid hole that's usually hidden on the edge of the POS, insert the card, get beeped at, wait for some other prompt, don't accidentally remove the card too soon, get beeped at, remove the card, sign.

It's BS.
Insert card when prompted. Remove card when prompted. Leave. Personal narrative seems to be the determining factor in how "difficult" chip cards are.

Try using NFC. Cashier says they don't do it. Look at NFC capable terminal. Try NFC anyway. Process partially starts before timing out. Customers in line giving you the side eye. Try again. Process completes. Smile smugly. Cashier smiles "smuglier" and says sign this. Meanwhile, 5 years have passed since you walked into the store for milk and eggs. It took you 5 years to get through the Apple Pay process. Your wife has left you and your kids call the former poolboy "new daddy". Chip and pin would have only taken 5 seconds and you'd still have your family. Was Apple Pay worth your family Harvey? Was it?!?!:D:p
 
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Apple is probably including hundreds of thousands of vending machines that now take NFC payment.

Samsung Pay's ability to be used nearly everwhere is having some effect, as its users' average weekly purchase total is slightly higher than that of Apple Pay users ($82 versus $75).

(All these articles would be easier to understand if they stopped referring to NFC acceptance as Apple Pay acceotance, which makes something that is general, sound exclusive / harder to happen.)


You've got this reversed as to which company's system is having the impact. Apple Pay now has 75% of all the contactless payments in the US!
 
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