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This is probably a dumb question, but does anyone know: if old videos (say, from old digital cameras) are catalogued in Photos are they future-proofed or does the media need to be checked for 64-bit compatibility? If so, can anyone point to any resources for checking this?

I've got a bunch of family videos dating back to about 2002 taken with little digital Canon cameras and the like, that have come along with me from iPhoto to Photos. They all play fine now, but they're worth way too much to lose.

As far as Aperture, it is a shame there isn't a pro photos app, the way FCP X is essentially a pro version of iMovie and Logic is a pro version of GarageBand.

For what I use it for, I find Photos a pretty decent tool for what it does -- especially considering it's free. I like that everything is available on whatever device I'm looking at currently but also all the originals are saved (and backed up) safely on my main iMac. The new extension setup of Photos does let you edit in apps like Photoshop for more comprehensive work, but keeps them inside your library.
Then again, I'm closer to the consumer than the pro end of things and don't have to deal with versioning and the like.
 
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Writing has been on the wall since 2014 when Apple officially discontinued the application. Amazing that 5 years later it still runs, but if you are a professional and have not switched already or do not already have clear plans laid out to switch when the time comes, its kinda your own damn fault.
 
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Apple could’ve been in the dslr market already making a dent and reinventing it. Mirrorless. Running iOS. Missed opportunity when the main concern about Apple is reliance on iPhone whose sales aren’t growing any longer. Instead we got Apple car nonsense and now services bs.
I think Apple’s point of view is they did reinvent photography on the iPhone. Without acquiring one of the major players they would never have the patent portfolio to build a DSLR/mirrorless camera. And why would they? I would say Apple guessed correctly. Even if iPhone sales are cut by 50% they far, far exceed the sales of the entire ILC + Fixed Lens market together.
 
So what's the good alternative to Aperture as a DAM...?
Capture One Pro is very close. I seriously evaluated a half dozen alternates before settling on Capture One Pro for its Aperture-like feel.

My only complaint with Capture One Pro is that it's a slower DAM than Aperture was, but not as slow as some others. If you need blazing speed, the only DAM that will do is Photo Mechanic, but that's purely a DAM and nothing else. Nothing even comes close to Photo Mechanic.

I wasn't averse to needing to buy a DAM separately, but I just didn't like having my workflow split up like that.
Just as a curiosity, I should mention that I’ve experimented with creating Capture One catalogs that reference Photos libraries— so both applications can reference the same source images. It kind of works, at least in the short term, but I’m too skittish to settle on this approach for the long term. Apple seems to update their library format with each point release, and while this seems to mostly impact metadata and doesn’t often affect the folder structure of the originals, it just feels like a house of cards waiting to fall...
 
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In a new support document, Apple has indicated that its legacy photo editing suite Aperture will not run in future versions of macOS after macOS Mojave. The support document provides users with steps to migrate Aperture libraries to Apple's newer Photos app for Mac or Adobe Lightroom Classic.

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Apple ceased development of Aperture in June 2014 and removed the software from the Mac App Store in April 2015 after the launch of the Photos app for Mac. However, the application continues to function on macOS Mojave for users who still have it installed, albeit with some performance limitations.

As part of the transition from 32-bit to 64-bit, certain media files created using older formats or codecs will also be incompatible with future versions of macOS after macOS Mojave. Apple has shared instructions on how to convert incompatible media in iMovie libraries and Final Cut Pro X and Motion projects.

Article Link: Apple Says Aperture Won't Run in Future macOS Versions After Mojave


I'm not surprised as they've pre-warned us a few years back, but still, a dumb move by Apple for sure.

Photos is good for the average user, but Aperture was great for organizing and editing - most photo software packages excel at 1 if they're lucky.

I've since moved on to capture one and it's been great. I found it very similar to the strengths of AP and the UI is very customizable.

The only lacking (and it's big one) feature is cloning sucks. I use Affinity Photo for that if required. In C1, you can't create 1 layer and go nuts removing background features. You have to create a new layer for each one which is just stupid (yes, I've sent them a message about it).

But for $80 Cdn, Affinity Photo is one fantastic piece of software and a legitimate contender to Photoshop. The only thing Affinity is missing is the smart cloning feature of PS. Once it has that, you can forget PS :)
 
I’ve been using this for over a year. I think its pretty damn good. They take a lot of input from actual photographers, so features are pretty well thought out.

https://www.on1.com/products/photo-...Y_DawVhbF_TLBGAaCBhuGMkLzmiMIuMMaAtrCEALw_wcB
Maybe I’m just venting because of a recent bad experience, but I’ve found On1 really frustrating. I was having serious problems with their handling of meta data and contacted support. They said the feature worked fine and asked me to document the problem before they would create a ticket. I spent the better part of a day capturing screenshots, documenting steps, and screenshotting other apps that behaved as I expect. Their response was “thank you for the input, this is a known bug”. This bug has been consistent through several major releases.

I only kept a copy of On1 because they had acquired Genuine Fractal’s resizing algorithm, but I think that’s pretty much been eclipsed by more modern approaches anyway. I’m done with On1.
 
Clearly Apple felt there was too small of a market to continue to support Aperture. And it is. Even at its height years ago the Aperture user base was very small.
Just like when Apple says a software/hardware bug affects a “very small number of users”. That number is still large in absolute terms.
 
Just as a curiosity, I should mention that I’ve experimented with creating Capture One catalogs that reference Photos libraries— so both applications can reference the same source images. It kind of works, at least in the short term, but I’m too skittish to settle on this approach for the long term.

I did the same thing, but by accident. When I was first importing my Aperture libraries, I didn't choose the option to move the images so Capture One Pro only mapped its own catalog back into the Aperture libraries. It worked fine. I even continued to fire up Aperture to do a few things to the same images, but leaving Aperture as the master of those images made me nervous so I spent a day moving the images out of Aperture and resyncing my catalog.
 
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Aperture hasn't aged well. If Aperture is all you know, you won't be able to understand this.

Apple was right to abandon it. The photo editing / digital asset management space is very crowded. It has over a dozen major competitors and probably several dozen if you start considering stand alone editor tools without asset management built in. Some of those alternatives are extremely good.

I loved Aperture and I hung onto it for too long myself. When I finally moved on, my only regret was that I didn't do it soon. Aperture was easy to use and didn't make me think very much, but it was underpowered in its color editing tools and my extended reliance on it stunted my development as a photographer.

Capture One Pro is my photo editor these days and it can be configured to work similarly to the way Aperture worked. If the thought of giving up Aperture makes you want to make Mojave the last MacOS you'll ever use, do yourself a favor and give Capture One Pro a serious look. It takes a little exporing to figure out how to configure it, but my setup really does mimic Aperture.


DAM fucntionality of C1 Pro is utter joke compared to Aperture. I've been using C1 since version 6 and the editing functions, while really good, are nothing Apple couldn't have done if they were serious about photo pro segment. I use catalogues for C1, but all my final pictures go as referenced files to Aperture. I'll never forgive Tim Crook for letting this app wither & die without replacement (Photos even on iOS was & is a joke, Mac version is a real d1ck punch).

Aperture should have been Apple's pro app to showcase Metal, OpenCL, 10bit support and differentiate not only software but also Mac hardware and from the Wintel crowd. Every year passes since Steve's passing it is more painful to see how Tim doesn't get chainlinking of competitie advatages into lasting product strategy - we get wide gamut iPads and laptops but we don't have Aperture X to support it, there's no Mac display to use 10bit (until iMac Pro), but OS X is updated to support it and people have to turn to 3rd party screens that can not be controlled natively from Mac.

Everyone can and does take photos, less people are able to edit & make movies, even less people can create music. Why Tim decided to kill pro app for the largest audience is beyond comprehension. My latest machine is from 2014 and have zero reason to upgrade to a new Mac in next 5 years, primarily thanks to killing Aperture.
 
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Why is everyone so surprised that Aperture is going away. It's been a dead app walking for years now. It's not like Apple was updating it constantly and then they suddenly said oh guess what we are killing it. People have had plenty of time to find new apps to use.
 
Why is everyone so surprised that Aperture is going away. It's been a dead app walking for years now. It's not like Apple was updating it constantly and then they suddenly said oh guess what we are killing it. People have had plenty of time to find new apps to use.
Nobody is surprised. Leave us to mourn in peace...
 
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Saw the writing on the wall and switched to Lightroom classic a couple years back.

Sorry, this was not writing on the wall, this was an email, an iMessage, and a notice pinned to your door. Apple very publicly cancelled the product a long time ago. :)
 
Apple could’ve been in the dslr market already making a dent and reinventing it. Mirrorless. Running iOS. Missed opportunity when the main concern about Apple is reliance on iPhone whose sales aren’t growing any longer. Instead we got Apple car nonsense and now services bs.

Why would Apple want to enter a shrinking market like DSLR and mirrorless cameras? Thanks to the “Law of large numbers”, Apple needs markets that are large and have the potential to grow larger.
 
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Why would Apple want to enter a shrinking market like DSLR and mirrorless cameras? Thanks to the “Law of large numbers”, Apple needs markets that are large and have the potential to grow larger.
Apple is getting out of the hardware business and moving to services. They would not be able to compete in the camera market unless they bought Sony.
 
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Jpeg is not really an archival format... If you’re willing to crush the image down to 8 bit, go with PNG (16bit PNG support is spotty at best), but for anything you might want to edit further later, go to PSD or TIFF.

Takes more drive space, but I figure if the image was important enough to work on in the first place, it’s important enough to archive well.

Highest quality jpegs are very close to any original. Most software edits are non-destructive like Aperture, i.e. the original data is left alone and a reciepe is saved, so editing has no data loss. When a jpeg or tiff or raw are read into an editor, you have a internal memory representation which is floating point, a float for the Red, one for the Green, and one for the Blue.

A jpeg can potentially have 64 8bit coefficients, it depends on the photo. 64 x 256 (8bits) = 16384 which is a 14 bit number. (See wikipedia)

Take a image, export it as a highest quality jpeg, a 16 bit tiff also. Now read in the jpeg to some editor, and also the tiff. Subtract them. There is very little difference. Almost no one will be able to tell the difference between the jpeg or the tiff version.
 
Just like when Apple says a software/hardware bug affects a “very small number of users”. That number is still large in absolute terms.
The amount of people using Aperture vs the amount of iOS users encountering a bug is a VERY HUGE difference. Thats not an accurate nor apples to apples (haha) comparison.

A more accurate comparison would be users using Aperture Vs. Lightroom. In that comparison the number is nowhere near as large.
 
Apple is getting out of the hardware business and moving to services. They would not be able to compete in the camera market unless they bought Sony.

Aren’t more photos taken with iphone than any other camera?

Seems to me they are already in the camera market.

(I own two sony a7-series cameras, so I get the difference. Don’t @ me.)
 
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Aren’t more photos taken with iphone than any other camera?

Seems to me they are already in the camera market.

(I own two sony a7-series cameras, so I get the difference. Don’t @ me.)
How many people taking iPhone pictures are editing them in the first place.

I'm close to buying an A7iii.
 
Ok, I think my solution will be virtualization. I will run an older version of Mac OS in a virtual machine in use Aperture in that VM environment. With that I can use it as long as there are Intel Macs. Sounds like an ok solution to me.

Any suggestions for a Mac OS virtualization? And which version of Mac OS would be best for Aperture? Not Mojave as there are too many issues with it and Aperture.
 
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