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What Fantasy are you living in?
If anything, Apple supports their devices longer than they ever have.
Let's not forget about how Apple completely cut support for PowerPC only after one major upgrade post Intel transition.
If you bought any PowerPC computer in 2005-2006, you were kinda screwed by 2009.
Snow Leopard didn't support these computers, iLife 11 Didn't support these computers, the Mac App Store didn't support these computers, so after a while you were kind of just stuck with what you had.
Or who can forget the iPhone 3G. Released in 2008, sold at a reduced price up until June 2010... and then got its last software update that November.
2 years. Even the original iPhone got close to 3.
So yeah, I have no idea what reality you're living in where Apple used to never let devices go obsolete, but it is just far, far from reality.
At least today, Apple let's the iPad Air2, a device introduced in October 2014, run the latest iOS in 2021/22. And it runs it very well. That's 7 full years of software support, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an 8th.
2000s Apple wouldn't even be able to promise 7 years of support, let alone deliver.

I like this post because it's factual ! and long term support is much worse when one looks at the competition.
 
You mean this thing I bought almost 10 years ago won't go on forever and ever and ever?

They did this when they said they wouldn't update the software on my Mac SE/30 to OS X, WTF? I paid like $5000 for that in 1989, and now they want me to buy another Mac? This works fine, why should I have to spend so much more money on....(drifts off into old-man rant about how things were different when he was a kid)
 
interesting.... Apple's official list shows the Apple II as "obsolete" :( I still have a brand-new, never-opened, sealed Apple IIe in my basement. My parents bought it for me right before I was leaving for college. It didn't arrive until a month after I left... so it's been sitting for years and year. I'm hoping some day I'll sell it for $5000 on eBay or something. :)
That's wild! Do you just have the IIe itself or peripherals too?

And yes, that'd likely be worth a fortune on eBay if you can get a couple vintage computer fans into a bidding war. When you decide to do it, be sure to post the auction in various key locations, like the Apple II enthusiasts group on Facebook, the vintagecomputing subreddit, and others. You'll do well.
 
The only iPad to ever be resurrected when it returned in spring 2014 to serve as the less expensive iPad after being discontinued in Fall 2013. Actually I think it’s the only apple product to ever be resurrected after being discontinued.
 
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PLANNED OBSOLESENCE!!! /s
while I generally agree re: planned obsolescence (my biggest gripe is the apple watch that realistically lasts 3 years before becoming mostly unusable due to software updates and necessity of pairing with the phone and it's own updates...) 9 years on an iPad I feel like is a pretty decent lifetime these days. things have advanced so far and components to keep a 9 year old iPad alive if needs repairs have got to be hard to come by.
 
The only iPad to ever be resurrected when it returned in spring 2014 to serve as the less expensive iPad after being discontinued in Fall 2013. Actually I think it’s the only apple product to ever be resurrected after being discontinued.
Didn't Apple bring back the Apple Watch Series 3 when they introduced the Series 5? In any case, that explains why it took 9 years to go "obsolete" instead of the usual 7.
 
Does Apple provide notice that this is going to happen, like a product support roadmap, or do they just wake up one day and decide?
Usually it is 7 years after they stop selling it as "new" in stores. Another poster pointed out that they discontinued it in 2013 but briefly brought it back in 2014 as a lower-priced option (sort of like the current $329 version).
 
Unpopular opinion. Apple should offer to buy back their products that are obsolete to help people with purchasing new i-deivces. Personally, I hold onto my e-gadgets for over 10 years at a time so it always bums me out when they become obsolete.
 
I still use my 2012 MBP, which is now stuck on Catalina.

I wonder if Apple products will ever get to the point where this obsolescence declaration is gone.

A 2.6Ghz quad-core Intel chip with 16GB RAM and an SSD is faster than many machines still around today, and more than capable to run the latest OSes.

The problem I believe is those damn T2 chips, and of course, capitalism.

That said, even Windows is going that route with Win 11.

Thankfully, my current iPad does everything I need so I guess it's time to really let go of the old stuff. Ten years is a good run.
Well, with Apple switching to their own in-house CPUs and GPUs, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the support for Macs cross the 10 year line.
The problem is between 2010-2015, Apple switched from Nvidia to AMD for the graphics cards, introduced Metal, and introduced things like T1 and T2 while still using Intel processors.
The reason so many Macs from 2010-15 i’ve been dropped in the last several versions is mainly because they were ditching Nvidia drivers, dropping GPUs without Metal support, and other things they consider legacy.
Personally I don’t like the speed at which they’re doing it, I do not think that Monterey should have ditched all of the 2013-15 Machines that it did so quickly, but I understand why they’re doing it.
But I think the fact that the iPad air2 from 2014 which runs on an Apple CPU and GPU is still getting software support today, but the iMac that was introduced on the same day with Intel isn’t is a sign that Apple Silicon computers will be supported for much, much longer than Intels were ever supported for.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the M1/M1pro/M1max computers were still getting software updates into the 2030s
 
Unpopular opinion. Apple should offer to buy back their products that are obsolete to help people with purchasing new i-deivces. Personally, I hold onto my e-gadgets for over 10 years at a time so it always bums me out when they become obsolete.
Being declared obsolete only means that Apple will not be issuing new software updates. Your device still works fine and you can likely still use it for the 10 years you mentioned. You might want to make sure to turn off software updated in the App Store so you don't get apps that can't run on your iPad.

Apple does accept devices as trade in on purchases or just for credit. Not sure how much you would get for an old iPad like that, but you can check online.

Apple does a pretty good job of supporting their devices with software update much longer than most other vendors. It is a little sad when a beloved device is no longer supported but you can still give it a good home in its old age. ?
 
while I generally agree re: planned obsolescence (my biggest gripe is the apple watch that realistically lasts 3 years before becoming mostly unusable due to software updates and necessity of pairing with the phone and it's own updates...) 9 years on an iPad I feel like is a pretty decent lifetime these days. things have advanced so far and components to keep a 9 year old iPad alive if needs repairs have got to be hard to come by.
And to be fair, especially since the changes over the past four revisions have been so minimal, the Apple Watch Series 4 and up all can last a good 3 years.
Series 0 through 3 struggle, why they’re still selling the 3 is just confusing to me, but the series 4 from 2018 runs amazingly still.
Plus, the series 4, SE and 5, and then again with series 6 and seven share CPUs, so they should all perform about the same over the years.
 
The  Watch series 3 was never discontinued.
I thought when Apple released the Series 4, they kept the Series 1 as the cheaper option and dropped the 3 until they released the Series 5.
 
The real news here is the "death" of the 2012 MacMini.... We still use a ton of those at work as cheap servers.

That and I also had the iPad 3 and was stung by the iPad 4 release that came too quickly.
 
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Wonderful! Supporting old hardware is very hard on devs and prevents innovation. Remember when the web couldn't support new features because IE6 was still in the wild a decade later? Terrible times
 
That ipad was my very first Apple device. Having used a friends one I waited patiently for the new model and ordered it on Day 1. Yes yes yes, new tech is always incoming, but seriously, 7months. It hurt and made me very wary of buying any other Apple stuff for a long time.
Was there a big difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 other than the switch to Lightning?

The 4 always felt like Apple wanting to finish the switch to Lightning. It looks practically identical except for the charging connector.
 
Was there a big difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 other than the switch to Lightning?

The 4 always felt like Apple wanting to finish the switch to Lightning. It looks practically identical except for the charging connector.
The A6 was quite a jump in performance over the A5. Other than that and the connector they were functionally identical.
 
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