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Apple Says HomePod Consumes Less Power Than Average LED Bulb During Music Playback
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This is just my opinion, but it seems there's a general consensus that smart speakers aren't really "necessary" tech. (However the success of Amazon & Google in this area would conflict that theory & honestly, if we were going down that road, there could be a long list of "unnecessary" tech )
The price is probably the other factor. I'm guessing if this was priced similar to the apple tv, there would probably be less criticism, but I'm sure for many, this is "a speaker with Siri" that cost over $300, so it doesn't make sense.
I actually would like one, but it's a bit lower on my list of "things to get next" (& I'm going to wait until they're in stores so I can check one out in person).
At what volume? That matters tremendously in terms of power consumption.
I find your post funny in a way. Why is it so useful? What is it going to do for me, and note this carefully, THAT I WANT OR NEED, that I don't already have? Put another way, what am I lacking in my life, THAT I WANT OR NEED?
What is traction and why does it have to have it? Can't Apple make niche devices anymore? I want them to make niche devices because it means more choice for more people and it means Apple doing what they do best. Not everything has to be an iPhone success. I'm not sure why people are so concerned with Apple making something that is a massive iPhone like success or it's a failure because it isn't.
I'm glad they're making products that don't appeal to everyone like HomePod, iMac Pro and Apple Watch. Long may that continue, it'll be a sad day when Apple only release products that can make billions.
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I don't know why you'd bother, they're just generic IEC C7 cables - most people should have bundles of these floating around the cable drawer at home, if not their a few quid from Amazon.
50% according to apples tech paper on it that is linked in the article at top
https://images.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/homepod/HomePod_PER_jan2018.pdf
From the linked apple PDF
Energy efficiency terms:
The energy efficiency values in this report are based in part on the ENERGY STAR Program Requirements for Audio/Video Version 3.0. For more information, visit www.energystar.gov.
All energy values assume a Wi-Fi connection. • Low power mode: Low power state that is entered automatically after 8 minutes of inactivity (default). • Music playback: Condition in which a typical music track is played on HomePod from iTunes at 50 percent volume. Power will vary depending on music track and volume. • Power supply efficiency: Average of the power supply’s measured efficiency when tested at 100 percent, 50 percent, and 20 percent of the power supply’s rated output current
what decible level is 50%?
I hate this use of % of something as some abjective number when we don't know what the values are based out of. 50% could be 1 a decible. out of a 2 scale.
same gripe I have about display testing. use real objective measurements. Not some arbitrary out of one hundred number
You are on MR and wonder why it is getting so much hate? Remember, in contrast to how it started, MR is not just a site for Apple aficionados and others who have rational critiques of Apple shortfalls anymore; it is also a place where some people come to work out their insecurities and resentment over the non-Apple tech they bought or the Apple tech didn't/can't buy. It also comes with being the most successful company in the history of the world. When you are number 1 by such a large margin, some folks will resent that success. In sports you see it with some of the hate directed at franchises like the NE Patriots or Yankees in previous decades.
This is such a strange product launch. No event to discuss the product in detail; and no, the mention of HomePod at WWDC did not discuss the product in detail or demo how it works. This environmental stuff is the kind of thing they'd mention in a keynote. It seems like HomePod is the red-headed stepchild right out of the gate.
You CANNOT get more out than you put in.
I'm not saying that. But there are other ways to make sound be louder without upping the power.
Hey! This is the power that it will need while playing music in “theater mode” (apple’s word for mute)
Not every one. We had our weekly AUG (Apple USer Group) meeting yesterday and discussed this release. Out of 47 folks, when asked if they were interested, 1 person raised their hand, and it wasn't me.
At this point, I see no need for a homepod, don't have an echo or Alexa or any of that stuff either.
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In my view, they are already doing exactly that.
I see. I thought for a mo that they were saying when it's running that you'd see 10W being drawn. What they mean is 10W max plus whatever the speaker consumes.
Marketing is a great thing.......
I predict that the Homepod will kick off a major revolution in home audio. It's not that folks don't appreciate high quality sound; it's just that relatively few people have heard it nowadays. It's also because setting up a nice sound system has always been a hassle with a home receiver, wiring, setup (tweeters, subwoofer, etc.,) confusing, and expensive for the average person. Having recently gone through that in a room in my house, the hassle and expense is vivid in my mind.
I ended up with a very nice sound system, but if I had to go through it again, and the Homepod was available where I could buy two of them, plug them in and instantly have a terrific sound system at a fraction of the price and hassle that I could take anywhere, I would do it in a heartbeat. And that's just for the sound system. If you add the huge benefit that the Homepod will also be a smart speaker with a powerful processor (A8) that will be constantly adding features and capability, these will sell like hotcakes. Think AirPods. Once you experience wireless headphones, you never want to go back and Apple took wireless and made it hassle free, it set off a revolution and now they have trouble keeping them in stock. That's the secret sauce of Apple--owning/managing the hardware and software.
JoT nailed this one --
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Wasn't really complaining about anything. I don't care if people want to buy more. It just seemed like a weird thing Apple would sell off the shelf in their stores since they're not doing it for their other peripherals. I hadn't considered the "contact support for repair parts" angle. Was more just confused why MR thought they would be selling them individually.
Yeah, I don't care if people buy more. The "why" was in regards to what I bolded, which was that MR thought there was a good chance these cables would be sold individually. I hadn't considered the "contact support for repair parts" angle.
Oh, you saw <10W and made the erroneous link to speaker volume..
Go and read about speaker sensitivity.. and impedance for that matter.
It'll all become clear then!
From my meager attempt to learn, and the 90% efficiency, the amplifiers must be Class D?
https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/amplifier/amplifier-classes.html
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/product/essence-dpa-440-class-d-amp/
But just think of all the poor electrons you wasted posting that here. WON'T SOMONE THINK OF THE ELECTRONS?!?
it is a kind of jack of all stuff. If you care for attention to detail in everything it does it might disappoint. Apple's pricing is way above the competition lets see how this fairs in the market.