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That number probably doesn't include all the highly paid lawyers involved in the various lawsuits on the App Store. haha
 
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Whatever you think about the App Store, the charging and whatever else, it has created a lot of jobs and wealth for many developers. Apple is not the only winner.
Maybe there can be more jobs and more winners if Apple is not seeking monopoly rent and act anticompetitive.
 
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According to Apple ... says it all, as if these 300k people were unemployed, flipping cents at the corner. lol
I want to see a decent non-apple statistics, not these mumbo jumbo numbers...

Never trust any statistics that you didn't forge yourself

Seems you missed the word “New.”

These are not Apple statistics. Perhaps you can find contrary statistics and report back to the group? Thanks!
 
Seems you missed the word “New.”

These are not Apple statistics. Perhaps you can find contrary statistics and report back to the group? Thanks!
Why should I?
I'm not the one posting statistics to public without showing the data source, the numbers, and methodology behind it. Where is the big heavy weight data file providing those "facts"?

Just some false and backed up "non-Apple" statistics...
I believe they created new jobs, but I question that 300k number.

Btw. does "non-profit" Progressive Policy Institute disclose their incomes?
It must come from somewhere, "donations" of course!
 
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Well it would be good to know the methodology behind these statistics. Is this 300K new app developers making a living from the something they have on the App Store?

I don't think so.
They say 2 million people work on the app economy, there is no way those are all iOS developers.
Maybe they count all the people involved in making an app like designers, backend developers, frontend developers for the website version, tech support, HR people. If that's the case, 2 million people may be a good estimate.
But it doesn't mean there will be 2 mil people unemployed. I'm an iOS developer, but that's one of my roles in the company, I work on stuff unrelated to apps for about 50% of the time. I'd still be employed even if there wasn't the app store.
 
Well, I am very glad that I have worked my whole life, starting at age 16 and have three pensions. Glad to see Apple putting people to work and I hope they can find ways to even help more. Some US manufacturing would be good. Thank goodness, I worked in the days that we had manufacturing plants in the United States.
 
... The Progressive Policy Institute “has a history of bending over backwards to do whatever large phone and cable companies ask it to do,” Tim Karr...


Sounds like they are similar to JD Power. If you have the bucks, they will fabricate a fake award for you. Or how about those vitamin certification companies who certify a company's vitamins using a name that sounds like it is an official government testing site. Purchased awards and certifications and statistics are not worth the paper they are printed on.
 
Oh, they created jobs, I guess that means we’ll just let them charge whatever in the app store and do whatever they want. Because if you create jobs then you’re allowed a blank check in society.
 
I don't think so.
They say 2 million people work on the app economy, there is no way those are all iOS developers.
Maybe they count all the people involved in making an app like designers, backend developers, frontend developers for the website version, tech support, HR people. If that's the case, 2 million people may be a good estimate.
But it doesn't mean there will be 2 mil people unemployed. I'm an iOS developer, but that's one of my roles in the company, I work on stuff unrelated to apps for about 50% of the time. I'd still be employed even if there wasn't the app store.
It’s just company spin. And generous definition of jobs created.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Research appears to ALSO include Uber & Lyft drivers, as was as those who provide delivery services for other apps.

Is it fair to count those in a once-in-a-century virus pandemic, as being directly related to ANY benefit to the App Store during Antitrust investigations ?

Nope, I don't think so !

Plus, NO word on whether AAPL sponsored it OR not, so I assume they did.

A MUCH better metric would be if Cook & Co would offer transparency into the health of the App Store.

For example, AAPL could release per-Qtr, per-Category Revenue Numbers for the iOS App Store here in the States, covering the entire Lifetime of the App Store !

That kind of metric would be welcome by ALL !

Hey Cook, give us the Raw Numbers & let us make our own conclusion !!!

There is a reason that Apple's App Store "today tab" is swamp'd with Game Apps, Apple Arcade Apps, & Little Kid Apps ... those are the ONLY ones using the App Store on a daily basis !

Apple's Upper Mgmt, in their infinite wisdom, drove most Adults away from the App Store !

The metric I propose would illustrate that !

It's needed because it will Force AAPL to get their act together, & expand their efforts beyond Games & Little Kid Apps.
 
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I feel like this is a bit misleading. How many of these devs had other developer jobs before focusing on iOS? How many were front or back end devs? I doubt this 300k of devs were devs that never had jobs before.
So they switch to focus on iOS development, leaving behind a vacancy for an front or back end dev. Is that not a job opening? Or do you think the companies they left just gave up having anyone in that position?
 
Not bad. But just imagine how many more jobs it would create if Apple lowered it's App Store commission to a more reasonable 20%!
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Research appears to ALSO include Uber & Lyft drivers, as was as those who provide delivery services for other apps.

Is it fair to count those in a once-in-a-century virus pandemic, as being directly related to ANY benefit to the App Store during Antitrust investigations ?
Maybe considering the times.
...That kind of metric would be welcome by ALL !....
It's nobodies business.There isn't much more to say about it. Let people make up their own mind and walk away from Apple if they want to or stay if none of this folderol matters to the individual.
 
Shhhh....it's only newsworthy to talk about billion dollar companies making even more money through the app store and then complaining that they're not making even more money through it.

Also, why do most of the people on these forums...on a pro-Apple forum btw...seem to be so anti Apple? Should I go to a Windows or Android forum find people that are more into Apple? Is this Bizzaro World?
 
Well it would be good to know the methodology behind these statistics. Is this 300K new app developers making a living from the something they have on the App Store?
No, it’s 300K people paid Apple the $99 annual developer fee. Consider it more like 290K with a new hobby.
 
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If consumers could both load apps via the App store, and had the option to side-load from trusted developers, the same - if not more - jobs would be created.
Your scenario would bring Apple to raise subscription fees to developer from 99 $/year to much higher prices due to the absence of revenue from IAPs and the reduced earning from the App Store.
In that case, the barriers to entry the market would be higher and only big companies could succeed.
Therefore less developers could try and start their business, just like it was before the App Store was created.
 
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